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Reply #30 posted 12/19/11 4:29pm

TheEnglishGent

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ManlyMoose said:

We know the threads been done a million times but considering the vast amounts of awful filler in Emancipation its always fun to try and find small amounts of buried treasure and make it into a single good CD. Plus it helps for new memebers who would rather shelf the CD than dig for a gem or two.

new members should listen for themselves. These threads only ever prove that everyone has different favourites and everyone can't stand different tracks. The only conclusion a new member can draw is that they have to make their own minds up.

I love that it is 3 discs and wouldn't want it any other way. Think about it this way, if it were one disc, it could just as easily have been a disc of shit

White mansion
Mr happy
I can't make you love me
In this bed I scream
Emale
Joint 2 joint
Frien lover sister...
La la means I love you
Style
Sleep around
Da da da
The plan

Right there you'd have, for me anyway, the single worst disc in princes entire discography. It makes me shudder to junk that could have been a potential 1 disc release, hate them all!! I thank all that is holy that prince released a 3 disc set so that I can play the ones I like and not have to suffer somebody else's choices. smile
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Reply #31 posted 12/19/11 4:48pm

NeonCraxx

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How about this?:

Disc 1

  1. "Jam of the Year" – 6:09
  2. "Right Back Here In My Arms" – 4:43
  3. "Somebody's Somebody" – 4:43
  4. "Get Yo Groove On" – 6:31
  5. "Courtin' Time" – 2:46
  6. "Betcha by Golly Wow!" – 3:31
  7. "We Gets Up" – 4:18
  8. "White Mansion" – 4:47
  9. "Damned if I Do" – 5:21
  10. "I Can't Make U Love Me" – 6:37
  11. "Mr. Happy" – 4:46
  12. "In This Bed I Scream" – 5:40

Disc 2

  1. "Sex In the Summer" – 5:57
  2. "One Kiss at a Time" – 4:41
  3. "Soul Sanctuary" – 4:41
  4. "Emale" – 3:38
  5. "Curious Child" – 2:57
  6. "Dreamin' About U" – 3:52
  7. "Joint 2 Joint" – 7:52
  8. "The Holy River" – 6:55
  9. "Let's Have a Baby" – 4:07
  10. "Saviour" – 5:48
  11. "The Plan" – 1:47
  12. "Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife" – 7:37

Disc 3

  1. "Slave" – 4:51
  2. "New World" – 3:43
  3. "The Human Body" – 5:42
  4. "Face Down" – 3:17
  5. "La, La, La Means I Love U" – 3:59
  6. "Style" – 6:40
  7. "Sleep Around" – 7:42
  8. "Da, Da, Da" – 5:15
  9. "My Computer" – 4:37
  10. "One of Us" – 5:19
  11. "The Love We Make" – 4:39
  12. "Emancipation" – 4:12


The best one on this thread. nod

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Reply #32 posted 12/19/11 5:15pm

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  • "Right Back Here In My Arms"
  • "Somebody's Somebody"
  • "In This Bed I Scream"
  • "One Kiss at a Time"
  • "Soul Sanctuary"
  • "Emale"
  • "Joint 2 Joint"
  • "The Holy River"
  • "Slave"
  • "New World"
  • "Face Down"
  • "Style"
  • "Sleep Around"
  • "My Computer"
  • "The Love We Make"

These are my fave tracks for a single disc but I need some help putting them into order that flows ! Help......pls....

I just can't believe all the things people say !
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Reply #33 posted 12/19/11 5:53pm

aardvark15

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Is it true Prince was onstage with MJ and JB?

Um yeah but what does this have to do with anything?

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Reply #34 posted 12/19/11 6:35pm

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Javi did a poll on this album, and the results were:

1. The Holy River (Condorcet winner: wins contests with all other choices)
2. The Love We Make loses to The Holy River by 23–18
3. Somebody's Somebody loses to The Holy River by 24–15, loses to The Love We Make by 23–18
4. In This Bed I Scream loses to The Holy River by 21–18, loses to Somebody's Somebody by 21–17
5. Joint 2 Joint loses to The Holy River by 24–17, loses to In This Bed I Scream by 22–18
6. Jam Of The Year loses to The Holy River by 29–12, loses to Joint 2 Joint by 22–16
7. Soul Sanctuary loses to The Holy River by 27–12, loses to Jam Of The Year by 20–19
8. White Mansion loses to The Holy River by 27–12, loses to Soul Sanctuary by 20–17
9. My Computer loses to The Holy River by 28–13, loses to White Mansion by 19–17
10. Right Back Here In My Arms loses to The Holy River by 30–10, loses to Joint 2 Joint by 22–18
11. Face Down loses to The Holy River by 26–14, loses to Right Back Here In My Arms by 23–17
12. Sleep Around loses to The Holy River by 29–10, loses to Right Back Here In My Arms by 24–15
13. Dreamin' About U loses to The Holy River by 31–10, loses to Sleep Around by 19–16
14. Sex In The Summer loses to The Holy River by 28–11, loses to Dreamin' About U by 20–17
15. Eye Can't Make U Love Me loses to The Holy River by 30–9, loses to Sex In The Summer by 19–18
16. Emancipation loses to The Holy River by 29–11, loses to Eye Can't Make U Love Me by 20–19
17. Curious Child loses to The Holy River by 32–7, loses to Emancipation by 21–15
18. Style loses to The Holy River by 35–6, loses to Emancipation by 19–17
19. Emale loses to The Holy River by 32–8, loses to Style by 20–18
20. Get Yo Groove On loses to The Holy River by 31–9, loses to Emale by 20–18
21. One Kiss At A Time loses to The Holy River by 32–7, loses to Get Yo Groove On by 19–18
22. Betcha By Golly Wow! loses to The Holy River by 33–5, loses to Get Yo Groove On by 19–18
23. Saviour loses to The Holy River by 28–11, loses to Betcha By Golly Wow! by 20–17
24. Courtin' Time loses to The Holy River by 33–7, loses to Saviour by 21–16
25. One Of Us loses to The Holy River by 30–10, loses to Courtin' Time by 21–18
26. Slave loses to The Holy River by 34–6, loses to Saviour by 20–17
27. Let's Have A Baby loses to The Holy River by 34–5, loses to Slave by 20–16
28. New World loses to The Holy River by 33–7, loses to Let's Have A Baby by 20–15
29. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife loses to The Holy River by 34–4, loses to Slave by 19–17
30. Damned If Eye Do loses to The Holy River by 33–6, loses to Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife by 19–16
31. The Human Body loses to The Holy River by 35–5, loses to Damned If Eye Do by 18–16
32. La, La, La Means Eyr Love U loses to The Holy River by 36–3, loses to The Human Body by 24–14
33. Mr. Happy loses to The Holy River by 36–3, loses to La, La, La Means Eyr Love U by 21–17
34. We Gets Up loses to The Holy River by 36–4, loses to Mr. Happy by 23–9
35. Tied:
The Plan loses to The Holy River by 37–3, loses to We Gets Up by 19–12
Da, Da, Da loses to The Holy River by 39–1, loses to We Gets Up by 19–12

If you chose songs from the top of that list, you'd have a great single disc. Of course, in sequencing an album you'd have to think not just about which songs are best, but which work best together, and also pay attention to running times.


[Edited 12/19/11 18:38pm]

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Reply #35 posted 12/20/11 12:51am

SoulAlive

TheFreakerFantastic said:

SoulAlive said:

I came up with a 12-track album and I'm gonna title it "New World".

Prince---New World

Get Yo Groove On

New World

Damned If I Do

Emale

Courtin' Time

In This Bed I Scream

Sex In The Summer

One Kiss At A Time

Soul Sanctuary

Sleep Around

My Computer

The Holy River

To me,that's a tight,consistent album with no filler lol Notice there are no remakes on my tracklist.I wasn't crazy about any of the 4 remakes that made the album.

Singles: "Sleep Around","Sex In The Summer" and "The Holy River"

U left a lot of the filler on there LOL...New World, Emale, Sleep Around...


"Emale" is the best song on the album hmph! "Sleep Around" is first single material!

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Reply #36 posted 12/20/11 12:52am

SoulAlive

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^ Yes this particular thread has been done about 1000x before....

I like these types of threads lol the 'what if' threads are always alot of fun

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Reply #37 posted 12/20/11 3:53am

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Here we go again smile

1. Sex In the Summer

2. Damned if I Do

3. In This Bed I Scream

4. Joint 2 Joint (edited without the end bit)

5. Face Down

6. Saviour

7. Betcha By Golly Wow

8. My Computer

9. The Love We Make

10. Style

11. The Holy River

12. One Kiss At A Time

cool

She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me?
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Reply #38 posted 12/20/11 4:00am

SoulAlive

to those of you complaining about this thread....lighten up! lol We're just having fun.This is a 'what if' scenario,nothing more.If you're happy with the 3-CD set the way it is,that's cool.We're just imagining how a single disc could be.Personally,I think a 3-CD set of new music by any artist is too much to absorb.It's overkill.

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Reply #39 posted 12/20/11 5:59am

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SoulAlive said:

to those of you complaining about this thread....lighten up! lol We're just having fun.This is a 'what if' scenario,nothing more.If you're happy with the 3-CD set the way it is,that's cool.We're just imagining how a single disc could be.Personally,I think a 3-CD set of new music by any artist is too much to absorb.It's overkill.

I don't think annyone is complaining about the thread concept, just the number of times the same thread appears on the org. This is probably the most common thread on here, every two to three months at least.

RIP sad
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Reply #40 posted 12/20/11 6:05am

Emancipation89

yup there were many threads regarding this topic but I think it always came down to "well since everyone prefers different songs for one album, maybe, just maybe, it actually means that Emancipation with 3 discs is already as perfect as it gets?" lol

...ok I admit the majority of fans at least agreed there were some obvious fillers. But really, I do not think it could've been more commercially successful if it were released as 1 disc...

And no matter what, I feel like the first track should be "Emancipation" and the last track should be "the Love We Make". If anything, I'd arrange the songs differently but I really love all three discs so much...With this album, you get the best, AND the worst of Prince. U also get the typical Prince we're used to who sings about fucking just for kicks, and then there's this person who's so very much in love, who sings about how wonderful love is...and at the end of the day it just comes down to this one guy who's really trying to tell us that it's ok to be both guys lol There's just no such album as special as Emancipation! I can't get enough of this album.

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Reply #41 posted 12/20/11 9:15am

tobydavies

Funny how so many people think Emancipation has some good tracks mixed with a lot of fillers but when you ask them to list the good and bad tracks they completely disagree which songs fit into which category.

Personally I wouldn't want to be without any of the tracks on Emancipation and I can't understand anyone who wants Prince to release less material.

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Reply #42 posted 12/20/11 2:47pm

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tobydavies said:

Funny how so many people think Emancipation has some good tracks mixed with a lot of fillers but when you ask them to list the good and bad tracks they completely disagree which songs fit into which category.

Personally I wouldn't want to be without any of the tracks on Emancipation and I can't understand anyone who wants Prince to release less material.

LaLaLa means I love U...?

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Reply #43 posted 12/20/11 2:55pm

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erik319 said:

tobydavies said:

Funny how so many people think Emancipation has some good tracks mixed with a lot of fillers but when you ask them to list the good and bad tracks they completely disagree which songs fit into which category.

Personally I wouldn't want to be without any of the tracks on Emancipation and I can't understand anyone who wants Prince to release less material.

LaLaLa means I love U...?

Maybe Prince loved it, how would you like it if it was one of the 12 songs total?

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Reply #44 posted 12/20/11 2:57pm

erik319

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aardvark15 said:

erik319 said:

LaLaLa means I love U...?

Maybe Prince loved it, how would you like it if it was one of the 12 songs total?

I'd think it was a shitty cover song.

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Reply #45 posted 12/20/11 2:58pm

aardvark15

erik319 said:

aardvark15 said:

Maybe Prince loved it, how would you like it if it was one of the 12 songs total?

I'd think it was a shitty cover song.

I don't like it either but what if Prince did and put it on the one disc version of Emancipation?

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Reply #46 posted 12/20/11 3:30pm

erik319

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aardvark15 said:

erik319 said:

I'd think it was a shitty cover song.

I don't like it either but what if Prince did and put it on the one disc version of Emancipation?

I'd do what I've already done and delete it from my playlist. Lifes too short for shit music. Just because it's on a CD (which I own in a box in my attic) doesn't mean it has to be played wink
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Reply #47 posted 12/20/11 4:25pm

rialb

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erik319 said:

aardvark15 said:

I don't like it either but what if Prince did and put it on the one disc version of Emancipation?

I'd do what I've already done and delete it from my playlist. Lifes too short for shit music. Just because it's on a CD (which I own in a box in my attic) doesn't mean it has to be played wink

I may be paraphrasing a bit but a great man once said that you need stuff that sucks to have stuff that is cool. That man's name was Butt-Head.

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Reply #48 posted 12/21/11 12:03am

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rialb said:

erik319 said:

I'd do what I've already done and delete it from my playlist. Lifes too short for shit music. Just because it's on a CD (which I own in a box in my attic) doesn't mean it has to be played wink

I may be paraphrasing a bit but a great man once said that you need stuff that sucks to have stuff that is cool. That man's name was Butt-Head.

he was a wise man :) and I agree. Look at clothes for example. Some fashion is timeless & can be worn for years & years. Some is fashionable for a short time, but you grow attached to it & can't bear to let it go. And some is horrible, which you bought in a sale on a whim & now hide at the back of the wardrobe. You know it's there, but you're more than happy to never wear it again. I'm happy to let 'everybody loves me, lalala means I love you, All the midnights in the world, etc stay at the back of the wardrobe. To be honest, if i could get them into Narnia, I'd be happy wink
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Reply #49 posted 12/21/11 1:40am

novabrkr

"Emancipation as Two Discs" would be a far more interesting thread at this point.

It really wouldn't need to be trimmed much to fit two CDs. There are all kinds of redundant intros and outros spread over the 3CDs.

Tracks like "Get Yo Groove On" might come off as "filler" to some, but with that type of tracks Prince was returning to the style of music that he did the best. The early-90s had been quite dark, aggressive and frankly speaking not as much fun as the 80s Prince. On Emancipation there was again a little bit of the spirit of the 1999 and The Dream Factory sessions thrown in the mix. I was just glad to hear Prince doing uplifting music again (Come and TGE were fine, but a little bit depressing with their overall tone).

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Reply #50 posted 12/21/11 1:56am

Nightcrawler

Disc 2 of "Emancipation" is very very good, near perfect even. Add "The Love we make" and "Somebody´s somebody" as bonus tracks to that and I could live without the other discs.

See the man with the blue guitar, maybe one day he`ll be a star...
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Reply #51 posted 12/21/11 3:06am

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novabrkr said:

"Emancipation as Two Discs" would be a far more interesting thread at this point.

It really wouldn't need to be trimmed much to fit two CDs. There are all kinds of redundant intros and outros spread over the 3CDs.

Tracks like "Get Yo Groove On" might come off as "filler" to some, but with that type of tracks Prince was returning to the style of music that he did the best. The early-90s had been quite dark, aggressive and frankly speaking not as much fun as the 80s Prince. On Emancipation there was again a little bit of the spirit of the 1999 and The Dream Factory sessions thrown in the mix. I was just glad to hear Prince doing uplifting music again (Come and TGE were fine, but a little bit depressing with their overall tone).

The Gold Experience is depressing? Maybe in spots but there are plenty of upbeat and fun tracks on it too.

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Reply #52 posted 12/21/11 3:11am

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^ I can see novabrkr's point about the early/mid 90s being aggressive and dark in tone. nod

I was looking at making a 12-track 1 disc ver. of Emancipation, and I realised, despite my protests that I don't like the album, it would be much easier to cut the chaff for a 2 disc set than for a single disc - I do like a good bulk of the material here, not love, but like.

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Reply #53 posted 12/21/11 4:07am

SoulAlive

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Funny how so many people think Emancipation has some good tracks mixed with a lot of fillers but when you ask them to list the good and bad tracks they completely disagree which songs fit into which category.

Well yeah,that's because we all have different tastes...which is sorta the point of this thread wink

These are fans' personal 'what if' tracklists.

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Reply #54 posted 12/21/11 5:32am

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I will sum up the 1000 previous threads about this:

  • some people absolutely love every single track on "Emancipation"
  • some people absolutely hate every single track on "Emancipation"
  • if you "merge" all the 1-CD versions/compilations of "Emancipation" that are listed in those threads, then you get the original 3-CD version of "Emancipation" (36 tracks)

Conclusion: leave it as it is; burn it if you must; but don't expect to find a consensus here.

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Reply #55 posted 12/22/11 12:08am

novabrkr

rialb said:

novabrkr said:

"Emancipation as Two Discs" would be a far more interesting thread at this point.

It really wouldn't need to be trimmed much to fit two CDs. There are all kinds of redundant intros and outros spread over the 3CDs.

Tracks like "Get Yo Groove On" might come off as "filler" to some, but with that type of tracks Prince was returning to the style of music that he did the best. The early-90s had been quite dark, aggressive and frankly speaking not as much fun as the 80s Prince. On Emancipation there was again a little bit of the spirit of the 1999 and The Dream Factory sessions thrown in the mix. I was just glad to hear Prince doing uplifting music again (Come and TGE were fine, but a little bit depressing with their overall tone).

The Gold Experience is depressing? Maybe in spots but there are plenty of upbeat and fun tracks on it too.

It is not depressing in the same sense as some of the most mopey alternative or gothic rock is, but the 91-95/96 era was definitely Prince's darkest and most depressing era. The subject matter of his funk tracks wasn't really about having a good time anymore ("I was born on a blood-stained table with a cord wrapped around my neck", some party lyrics, huh?"). Sure, there's stuff like "We March", "Now" and "Dolphin" on TGE, but they're hardly comparable to stuff like "Let's Work", "It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night" or "Glam Slam". Prince's lyrics just got vengeful and so many of his tracks were simply about him being pissed off (or they were just plain filthy). I'm not sure if I find any of the tracks on TGE really that "uplifting" - perhaps for the reason that the lyrics on the tracks that were meant to be "positive" promise more than what they can deliver.

In any case, I still prefer TGE over Emancipation. I just think that there was some intrinsic value of him starting to do "happier" material again. It was not just about the lyrics, it was also about the sound and the overall production style.

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Reply #56 posted 12/22/11 2:20am

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I'm gonna start by rating previous suggestions. Turns out they all contained six of my choices.

On a scale from 1-10:

bigd74's tracklist: 8

Vict0r's tracklist: 7.5
Controversy's tracklist: 7

SoulAlive's tracklist: 6

My tracklist:

1. Jam Of The Year
2. Somebody's Somebody
3. Get Yo Groove On
4. Courtin' Time
5. In This Bed I Scream
6. Sex In The Summer
7. One Kiss At A Time
8. Dreamin' About U
9. Saviour
10. Face Down
11. Sleep Around
12. The Love We Make

Ok, let me have it! smile

The album could've been called: "The Love We Make".

Whether Emancipation should've been three discs or one depends on what you want. If you want an album with less filler that has a clear focus on being commercial then a one disc album would've been preferable. But if you want as many sides of Prince as possible, more good tracks (but also more filler) then a three disc album makes sense.

Personally I would've preferred the one disc format. I also think that the average Prince song would be better if he focused more on quality than quantity.

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Reply #57 posted 12/22/11 2:32am

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^ Better, at least u got the classic The Love We Make but not ideal.

I never understand the love for 'Jam Of The Year', it's a bit filler ish for me. I prefer the unreleased 'I am the DJ' which it was swapped with....

Swap Face Down and Sleep Around with White Mansion and We Gets Up.... then u've got a great and fun 1 disc..

Although the more people try to reduce it the more you think its best as a 3cd set..


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Reply #58 posted 12/22/11 2:43am

novabrkr

Another thing I've never understood about these threads is why people seem to think that their one disc versions of Emancipation should have exactly 12 songs. Why not 14 or 15 songs?

The Disc 1 of Emancipation is one sort of a "mini-album". It's the only disc that sounds like a full album from start to finish. I suppose if Prince had decided to release the album as just one disc he would have kept many of those songs from that disc.

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Reply #59 posted 12/22/11 2:45am

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^ Good point...it does flow well as 1 album...but a lot of the classic tracks are also on Disc 2...

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