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Thread started 12/19/11 5:17am

mchl88

Emancipation as One Disc

In another thread (http://prince.org/msg/7/372647) Joe Tyler suggested emancipation should have been one disc to avoid the filler. I happen to agree. If you do too (or even if you don't) I'd love to see your track listing for it.
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Reply #1 posted 12/19/11 5:28am

SoulAlive

I came up with a 12-track album and I'm gonna title it "New World".

Prince---New World

Get Yo Groove On

New World

Damned If I Do

Emale

Courtin' Time

In This Bed I Scream

Sex In The Summer

One Kiss At A Time

Soul Sanctuary

Sleep Around

My Computer

The Holy River

To me,that's a tight,consistent album with no filler lol Notice there are no remakes on my tracklist.I wasn't crazy about any of the 4 remakes that made the album.

Singles: "Sleep Around","Sex In The Summer" and "The Holy River"

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Reply #2 posted 12/19/11 5:33am

Vict0r

  1. Slave
  2. Joint 2 Joint
  3. Soul Sanctuary
  4. Somebody's Somebody
  5. I Can't Make U Love Me
  6. In This Bed I Scream
  7. White Mansion
  8. Damned If I Do
  9. The Holy River
  10. Courtin' Time
  11. Sex In The Summer
  12. Let's Have A Baby
  13. Curious Child
  14. Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife
  15. Saviour
  16. The Love We Make

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Reply #3 posted 12/19/11 6:12am

databank

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In 10,000 other threads 10,000 other people suggest that and I say...

NO!

CUT THE CRAP!

U don't suggest that War & Peace shoulda been reduced 2 100 pages, so please...

CUT

THE

CRAP

(Once & 4 all!)

Thank u.

lock

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Reply #4 posted 12/19/11 6:30am

erik319

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databank said:

In 10,000 other threads 10,000 other people suggest that and I say...

NO!

CUT THE CRAP!

U don't suggest that War & Peace shoulda been reduced 2 100 pages, so please...

CUT

THE

CRAP

(Once & 4 all!)

Thank u.

lock

tough day?
blah blah blah
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Reply #5 posted 12/19/11 6:52am

rialb

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I take the opposite view. I think the album needed to be even longer. Throw in a fourth disc and make each disc exactly seventy-five minutes long. Four discs, fifteen tracks each for a total of sixty new songs. Five hours of brand new Prince music, what could be better?

[Edited 12/19/11 6:53am]

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Reply #6 posted 12/19/11 7:05am

Poplife88

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I like it the way it is...I tried to edit when it came out and I was always missing certain tracks that I liked. For instance both One Disc playlists above don't include Face Down, which immediatley makes them inferior to the released 3-disc set.

We're gonna need a bigger boat
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Reply #7 posted 12/19/11 7:19am

databank

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erik319 said:

databank said:

In 10,000 other threads 10,000 other people suggest that and I say...

NO!

CUT THE CRAP!

U don't suggest that War & Peace shoulda been reduced 2 100 pages, so please...

CUT

THE

CRAP

(Once & 4 all!)

Thank u.

lock

tough day?

lol

No, just the fact that there ain't THAT MUCH joy in repetition wink

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Reply #8 posted 12/19/11 8:08am

NouveauDance

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databank said:

lol

No, just the fact that there ain't THAT MUCH joy in repetition wink

falloff

It's true this thread does come up every 2 weeks, but it's always fun to play 'what if' etc biggrin

I've been listening to Emancipation since the P&B review, and re-discovering the parts about it that I liked, as well as those I don't eek

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Reply #9 posted 12/19/11 8:33am

TheFreakerFant
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SoulAlive said:

I came up with a 12-track album and I'm gonna title it "New World".

Prince---New World

Get Yo Groove On

New World

Damned If I Do

Emale

Courtin' Time

In This Bed I Scream

Sex In The Summer

One Kiss At A Time

Soul Sanctuary

Sleep Around

My Computer

The Holy River

To me,that's a tight,consistent album with no filler lol Notice there are no remakes on my tracklist.I wasn't crazy about any of the 4 remakes that made the album.

Singles: "Sleep Around","Sex In The Summer" and "The Holy River"

U left a lot of the filler on there LOL...New World, Emale, Sleep Around...

[Edited 12/19/11 8:33am]

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Reply #10 posted 12/19/11 8:35am

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Prince is gonna think "wtf are these guys asking for more music and the vault, and when i give them lots of music, such as a 3cd set, they wan't less"

I wouldn't blame him.

Emancipation was a 3CD set...listen to it and enjoy AS HE INTENDED IT.....it's a great album

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Reply #11 posted 12/19/11 8:43am

TheEnglishGent

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I swear the org could be reduced to just ten threads and everything would be covered.

RIP sad
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Reply #12 posted 12/19/11 8:45am

TheFreakerFant
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^ Yes this particular thread has been done about 1000x before....

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Reply #13 posted 12/19/11 10:03am

NouveauDance

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

U left a lot of the filler on there LOL...New World, Emale, Sleep Around...

One man's trash, etc..... Personally, I think they are 3 of the strongest tracks on the set, NW is my favourite on the whole thing.

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Reply #14 posted 12/19/11 10:06am

erik319

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databank said:

erik319 said:

tough day?

lol

No, just the fact that there ain't THAT MUCH joy in repetition wink

hehehe smile

blah blah blah
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Reply #15 posted 12/19/11 10:10am

erik319

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I have never been happy with Emancipation, it's just long and sprawling and full of damn ballads...

So I decided to remove what I didn't like, replace some with outtakes from the era (like journey 2 the center of your heart, etc) take off the covers and change it into 3 themed albums following the artworks theme of 'love, sex and liberty'.

What I ended up with is a nice jazzy r&b album, an album of ballads and a more experimental album.

Since doing that, I've listened to it more than ever before... And belive it or not the 'damn ballads' one is now my favourite of the three lol

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Reply #16 posted 12/19/11 10:15am

Thibaut

I hate these threads, I'd rather have all the music

most of these one disc versions omit some of the best tracks...

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Reply #17 posted 12/19/11 10:17am

erik319

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Thibaut said:

I hate these threads, I'd rather have all the music

most of these one disc versions omit some of the best tracks...

It's all subjective at the end of the day, one mans gold is another man's Jughead

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Reply #18 posted 12/19/11 10:34am

lucas

I remember Uptown mag did a top 12 track list right when it came out, and it was a good list...but not one of the 12 reviewers voted for Courtin Time, while Peach and Black recently considered it to be one of the absolute best, saying it was basically perfect. On the other hand, P&B didn't like Get Yo Groove On, while Uptown loved it....So, I think it's best to just enjoy the album as is. Is it his best of the 90's? Not for me - more like number 4, behind Gold, D&P, and Symbol.

Do I personally think it could be paired down to TWO discs? Maybe. But then it wouldn't be so wonderfully all over the place. It's massive amount of songs, good and bad, is a huge part of the fun of Emancipation.

No need to change it. It's great the way it is.

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Reply #19 posted 12/19/11 10:52am

Dave1992

We did this about 1,000 times already and all it led to was that we couldn't agree on one album at all. Everybody would keep different tracks and that's why Emancipation is perfect as it is, it's got something for everybody.

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Reply #20 posted 12/19/11 10:57am

steakfinger

NouveauDance said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

U left a lot of the filler on there LOL...New World, Emale, Sleep Around...

One man's trash, etc..... Personally, I think they are 3 of the strongest tracks on the set, NW is my favourite on the whole thing.

No shit, right? I think Slave and New World are the best things on there. I doubt Prince is the first person to write a song after reading New World by Aldus Huxley, but he's probably the first with any kind of chart recognition. Slave is just nuts on the vocal performance AND it's not a Prince-by-numbers jam.

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Reply #21 posted 12/19/11 1:41pm

rialb

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steakfinger said:

NouveauDance said:

One man's trash, etc..... Personally, I think they are 3 of the strongest tracks on the set, NW is my favourite on the whole thing.

No shit, right? I think Slave and New World are the best things on there. I doubt Prince is the first person to write a song after reading New World by Aldus Huxley, but he's probably the first with any kind of chart recognition. Slave is just nuts on the vocal performance AND it's not a Prince-by-numbers jam.

"Slave" is a really cool track. Basically all percussion. Has he ever done another song like that?

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Reply #22 posted 12/19/11 1:48pm

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NouveauDance said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

U left a lot of the filler on there LOL...New World, Emale, Sleep Around...

One man's trash, etc..... Personally, I think they are 3 of the strongest tracks on the set, NW is my favourite on the whole thing.

Wow, this really is subjective...those are probably the most boring for me...if I had to jettison 3 tracks, those would probably be it....Slave (rather self indulgent/ irritating effects) , New World (too MJ ish for me, rather repetitive) and Emale (again repetitive chorus)...lets say..

If I had to pick my top 3 it would be: The Love We Make (best of the whole set - AMAZING), White Mansion and One Kiss At A Time.....

Thankfully though we don't have to make do with 3...we have 36 tracks and I have NO complaints at all about him releasing 3 CD sets...bring em on!



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Reply #23 posted 12/19/11 1:54pm

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steakfinger said:

NouveauDance said:

One man's trash, etc..... Personally, I think they are 3 of the strongest tracks on the set, NW is my favourite on the whole thing.

No shit, right? I think Slave and New World are the best things on there. I doubt Prince is the first person to write a song after reading New World by Aldus Huxley, but he's probably the first with any kind of chart recognition. Slave is just nuts on the vocal performance AND it's not a Prince-by-numbers jam.

I always thought New World was with reference to the new world translation of the bible. The version the JW's read...

RIP sad
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Reply #24 posted 12/19/11 1:56pm

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^ This was before his conversion, no it's about creating a New World, presumably based on Love...like the idealism of it even if i'm not mad keen on the song itself..

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Reply #25 posted 12/19/11 2:31pm

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'New World' was recorded in 1994, so it's a little before the whole JW thang.

Now 'Slave', see we have differing opinions in the thread already, I don't like it - I find it whiney and self-indulgent, I prefer the Exodus version. On the P&B podcast they made an interesting point that I hadn't thought of before that it doesn't really belong on the set, since the album is all about 'freedom' and it's after the whole 'slave' thing, so it would've suited something like Exodus more. I tend to agree and always skip it.

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Reply #26 posted 12/19/11 3:18pm

aardvark15

How about this?:

Disc 1

  1. "Jam of the Year" – 6:09
  2. "Right Back Here In My Arms" – 4:43
  3. "Somebody's Somebody" – 4:43
  4. "Get Yo Groove On" – 6:31
  5. "Courtin' Time" – 2:46
  6. "Betcha by Golly Wow!" – 3:31
  7. "We Gets Up" – 4:18
  8. "White Mansion" – 4:47
  9. "Damned if I Do" – 5:21
  10. "I Can't Make U Love Me" – 6:37
  11. "Mr. Happy" – 4:46
  12. "In This Bed I Scream" – 5:40

Disc 2

  1. "Sex In the Summer" – 5:57
  2. "One Kiss at a Time" – 4:41
  3. "Soul Sanctuary" – 4:41
  4. "Emale" – 3:38
  5. "Curious Child" – 2:57
  6. "Dreamin' About U" – 3:52
  7. "Joint 2 Joint" – 7:52
  8. "The Holy River" – 6:55
  9. "Let's Have a Baby" – 4:07
  10. "Saviour" – 5:48
  11. "The Plan" – 1:47
  12. "Friend, Lover, Sister, Mother/Wife" – 7:37

Disc 3

  1. "Slave" – 4:51
  2. "New World" – 3:43
  3. "The Human Body" – 5:42
  4. "Face Down" – 3:17
  5. "La, La, La Means I Love U" – 3:59
  6. "Style" – 6:40
  7. "Sleep Around" – 7:42
  8. "Da, Da, Da" – 5:15
  9. "My Computer" – 4:37
  10. "One of Us" – 5:19
  11. "The Love We Make" – 4:39
  12. "Emancipation" – 4:12
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Reply #27 posted 12/19/11 3:19pm

rdhull

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Is it true Prince was onstage with MJ and JB?

c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #28 posted 12/19/11 3:45pm

ManlyMoose

We know the threads been done a million times but considering the vast amounts of awful filler in Emancipation its always fun to try and find small amounts of buried treasure and make it into a single good CD. Plus it helps for new memebers who would rather shelf the CD than dig for a gem or two.

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Reply #29 posted 12/19/11 4:26pm

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rialb said:

Four discs

Vince Gill beat him to it. smile

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