Considering the stories about Prince's spiritual conflict during the post Dream factory era, I think it would have been interesting if he'd used tracks from both the Black Album and Lovesexy to create a single work to portray his inner turmoil. Maybe something like this:

DARKside

1. Le Grind

2. Scarlet P*ssy

3. Superfunkicalifragisexy

4. When 2 R In Love

5. Rock Hard in a Funky Place

LOVEside

1. Eye Know

2. Glam Slam

3. Anna Stesia

4. I Wish U Heaven

5. Lovesexy (or perhaps Positivity)

Thoughts?

why is when 2 r in love dark?

uuhson said:

why is when 2 r in love dark?

First thought was because it originally on the Black Album but you make a good point.

I prefer the albums the way they were released.

sorry.

thedance said:

I prefer the albums the way they were released.

sorry.

you quite the little stormcloud arent you?

i think this thread is just for fun, hes not actually planning on building a time machine to go back and force prince into doing this

2LP set

NouveauDance said:

NouveauDance said:

2LP set

This would've been the best. thats how I have them on my playlist. Also, dark side NEEDS Bob George & Cindy C.

uuhson said:

No "Alphabet St.", No Deal.

NouveauDance said:

2LP set

That's how I've always felt Black/Lovesexy are anyway. They're two very different sides of the same coin for me

Definetely "When 2 R in Love" in the LOVEside

ganesh said:

Definetely "When 2 R in Love" in the LOVEside

I think it's perfect on both sides. The lyrics are pretty raunchy, so they fit on the Lust side just as well as far as I'm concerned

Very interesting. I would say that your configuration would have sold just as well or possibly better than Prince's. However, Alphabet St. has to be in there somewhere as it's the only song on either album that would sell as a single.

Wildboy said:

Very interesting. I would say that your configuration would have sold just as well or possibly better than Prince's. However, Alphabet St. has to be in there somewhere as it's the only song on either album that would sell as a single.

im sure cindy c would have been a hit if just for the novelty factor

Wait! THREE disc set... hear me out:

Pull When 2 R in Love from both albums, and include it as a 45, same song on both sides. Like, as an entreacte between the two. Like Prince's lust from the first half creates a divine sexual/religious revelation that inspires the second half. Whatcha think?

kenkamken said:

NouveauDance said:

2LP set

With positive and negative artwork, something like the Parade shots ftom Jeff Katz. I wonder if there are more Jean Baptiste Mondino photos from that Lovesexy shoot? I've never seen any photos other than the cover shot.

So you´ve never seen the alternate Lovesexy album cover? The one that looks a little bit reminiscent of the 1979 "Prince" album cover?

It looks really, really bad though.....bad not meaning good.

I would post it for you if I could find it again but it has disappeared.

Here´s a link to an old thread about it but the images are gone;

http://prince.org/msg/7/96549

"When 2 R in Love" always sounded more like a Black Album ballad than a Lovesexy ballad to me, because of the style of sound and it's tone. It's doesn't have that bright pop synth tone that a lot of Lovesexy has. It seems very midnight.

ufoclub said:

"When 2 R in Love" always sounded more like a Black Album ballad than a Lovesexy ballad to me, because of the style of sound and it's tone. It's doesn't have that bright pop synth tone that a lot of Lovesexy has. It seems very midnight.

Expecially the beginning

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

bigd74 said:

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

wow, ive always wanted to ask this. it makes so little sense especially since one of those was bob george

uuhson said:

bigd74 said:

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

wow, ive always wanted to ask this. it makes so little sense especially since one of those was bob george

But if he was really punishing the record company for making him release SOTT as a double instead of a triple it does make sense.

KoolEaze said:

kenkamken said:

Now I'm curious. Tried Googling it, but no luck. If anyone has accessTo this photo, please post.

I concur.

Poplife88 said:

NouveauDance said:

2LP set

This would've been the best. thats how I have them on my playlist. Also, dark side NEEDS Bob George & Cindy C.

True! Cindy C is great...the Prince I like so much besides the hitmachine

bigd74 said:

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

The bad trip thing is real enough and has been corroborated by several band members/employees at the time. As for it being the actual cause of Prince withdrawing the album, who knows. Prince's self-mythologises constantly, and this may be a mythology (the LS tourbook story) of a mythology (of the 'vision of God'/trip thing).

It may have been that Prince did a total 180 on releasing the album, even if it was going to be released under the radar somewhat - and the bad trip was the catalyst that made him pull the plug on the release at such a late stage - but the whole vision of God thing is BS.

Whatever the truth - he certainly used the withdrawal of the LP as promotion for Lovesexy, since it added to the mystique of Prince and his work.

NouveauDance said:

bigd74 said:

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

The bad trip thing is real enough and has been corroborated by several band members/employees at the time. As for it being the actual cause of Prince withdrawing the album, who knows. Prince's self-mythologises constantly, and this may be a mythology (the LS tourbook story) of a mythology (of the 'vision of God'/trip thing).

It may have been that Prince did a total 180 on releasing the album, even if it was going to be released under the radar somewhat - and the bad trip was the catalyst that made him pull the plug on the release at such a late stage - but the whole vision of God thing is BS.

Whatever the truth - he certainly used the withdrawal of the LP as promotion for Lovesexy, since it added to the mystique of Prince and his work.

That's pretty much my view.

He may have been unhappy with the Black album and this was catalysed by the "bad trip". His master stroke is to then pull this good/bad life dichotomy in to his art. He deliberately recorded a more spiritual and uplifting record and therefore, diametricly opposed it against the Black album. This only served to make Black the bootleg success it was - which was no bad thing and most likely intentional. Prince knew this would only add to his mystique and hoped all this exposure would also lead to more record sales.

It is, therfore, no accident (and, again, a brilliant artistic touch) that he included Black songs on the Lovesexy tour. In fact, the Lovesexy tour is actually kinda what the OP is getting at here. So, Prince has actually already done it - he did the Lovesexy tour as a "good winning out over evil" story and pitted his racier songs (including Black songs) against the more spiritual works of his.

David Bowie is another great example of someone who took his life situations and expressed them fully in his art, in more than just the songs (Aladdin Sane and Ziggy characters, for example). Prince is the same.

[Edited 12/13/11 10:44am]

eyewishuheaven said:

Wait! THREE disc set... hear me out:

Pull When 2 R in Love from both albums, and include it as a 45, same song on both sides. Like, as an entreacte between the two. Like Prince's lust from the first half creates a divine sexual/religious revelation that inspires the second half. Whatcha think?

YES! It would act as a bridge

bigd74 said:

I've never quite believed what i've read when it comes to why he pulled The Black album, the whole bad trip thing, i mean why pull an album when it's been shipped, apologising and saying don't buy it in a secret message in the next video but then play 2 songs from it on the albums replacement's tour. something's not quite right. would've made an awesome 2 disc set. i've always loved Lovesexy and would be in my Prince top 3 albums.

He did it to show how he's changed. The first half is really dirty and dark and then Prince (just like in real life) has an epiphany and decides to become all religious which is when Anna Steisa is played

When 2 r in luv....is on the Black......because it is a MIS CON - cep - tion that 2 r in luv just because of SEX!