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KICKDRUMZ

WHAT STOP PRINCE FROM BECOMING A KING?

While watching Micheal Jackson's " THIS IS IT!" for the two hundredth time, I was brought to the thought again of how much he's missed and how much of a dynasty he's left behind, now don't get it twisted, im a Prince fan to the bone, he's the reason im a musician today, but I can't help but wonder what separated him from the ranks of Elvis, M.J., Jimi Hendrix and maybe even James Brown as far as impact. Is because of is attitude, his reclusiveness or other matters? So the question is with someone so talented and different and a trailblazer/ pioneer Why has'nt Prince became a King to the likes of other outside of ourselves. If he died tomorrow would he be missed like Elvis or M.J. or would they talk about him for a few days on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood then move on to Kim Ho-dashian life and exploits as always.

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Reply #1 posted 11/26/11 8:52pm

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Not every Prince becomes a King. He could become a Duke, like Duke Ellington or the Grand Duke of Luxembourg.

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Reply #2 posted 11/26/11 8:58pm

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KICKDRUMZ said:

While watching Micheal Jackson's " THIS IS IT!" for the two hundredth time, I was brought to the thought again of how much he's missed and how much of a dynasty he's left behind, now don't get it twisted, im a Prince fan to the bone, he's the reason im a musician today, but I can't help but wonder what separated him from the ranks of Elvis, M.J., Jimi Hendrix and maybe even James Brown as far as impact. Is because of is attitude, his reclusiveness or other matters? So the question is with someone so talented and different and a trailblazer/ pioneer Why has'nt Prince became a King to the likes of other outside of ourselves. If he died tomorrow would he be missed like Elvis or M.J. or would they talk about him for a few days on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood then move on to Kim Ho-dashian life and exploits as always.

How can you say he hasn't had any impact? There's been many an artist copying his style. Off the dome: Dangelo, Timberlake, Diddy, Van Hunt, Maroon 5, Britney Spears ...and in the 80's a hell of a lot more. In the past decade, it seems like he has garnered the appreciation that sums of his ethic, style, sound, and drive. Everyone in the biz knows of his impact and repsects it. He just isnt dead like Elvis (pun intended).

Hell...he made you become a musician...you didn't become an 'entertainer" or a "singer/dancer"

Now of course his impact is not as big as MJ or JB. But it isnt like he is going to be some page 6 blurb.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/11 10:09pm

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stoned king

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #4 posted 11/26/11 10:40pm

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He's both a prince and king in his own league imho

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Reply #5 posted 11/26/11 11:39pm

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his name. duh.

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Reply #6 posted 11/27/11 12:16am

Praxis

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2 whom it may concern, u must come 2 ya senses...there r no kings on this earth, only Princes

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Reply #7 posted 11/27/11 2:04am

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Because for better or worse, Prince doesn't sit on his ass for 5 years between records.

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Reply #8 posted 11/27/11 2:28am

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Because for better or worse, Prince doesn't sit on his ass for 5 years between records.

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Reply #9 posted 11/27/11 3:24am

DJFreelan

Because he's seen the top and it's just a dream, because the women and fancy clothes will save your fate but they won't save your soul. biggrin

[Edited 11/27/11 3:25am]

"I never want to stop singing this song!" Prince in Montreal, 12/2/11, just before performing Purple Rain
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Reply #10 posted 11/27/11 3:55am

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Oh that's easy! The answer is PRINCE and his INSECURITIES!

Prince is SEVERELY INSECURE like a motherfucker! ALWAYS has been!

We're talking about someone that essentially maneuvered his way to the top of the entertainment industry by laying his own path, from the beginning and has remained virtually unscathed, to this very day!

Just take a moment and seriously think about it. In Prince's 30+ years of doing that, the VAST majority of his scars have been self-inflicted. Because of his INSECURITIES!

Exactly what those are and why he's let them keep from being all that he could and should be? I've come to finally realize and accept...I haven't a motherfucking clue and neither does he! shrug

[Edited 11/27/11 3:57am]

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Reply #11 posted 11/27/11 3:57am

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prince will never escape his old image. people continue to think hes a vapid talentless song and dance man



edit: everyone still thinks he might be gay

[Edited 11/27/11 3:58am]

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Reply #12 posted 11/27/11 4:01am

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NouveauDance said:

Because for better or worse, Prince doesn't sit on his ass for 5 years between records.

lol

Well, of course Prince has A LOT of impact. I think he influenced many, many artists/musicians from nowadays. I can clearly see his influence everywhere.

And he isn't a king.. he is just PRINCE. and that's makes him more unique than anyone else.

[Edited 11/27/11 4:03am]

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Reply #13 posted 11/27/11 4:14am

onelap

He dose not need to be a king as he is a child of God.

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Reply #14 posted 11/27/11 4:46am

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onelap said:

He dose not need to be a king as he is a child of God.

*vomit*

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Reply #15 posted 11/27/11 6:51am

KICKDRUMZ

Im knock trying to knock him or anything people, please believe that, the lame responses ive seen like, "like their r no KINGS ON THIS EARTH ONLY PRINCES" really?? I just think that some of his decisions and attitude are things that R self made things that stopped him. And also because he lives on his own man made island for the last century, and doing the math he's had more negative PR than positive..in short being a Asshole 90% of the time hurts u after awhile( a few of them, not doing We R The World, dissing Quincy Jones twice, not working with Micheal Jackson, oh. and the Guitar Hero thang so the younger crowd could get too know him)...im just saying.

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Reply #16 posted 11/27/11 7:43am

dJJ

It seems he's opening up lately. Maybe Andy has a positive effect on him in that way?

I can find footage a the youknowwhatandwedon'tspeakofitoverhere of some of his shows and people are posting it on fb, without it getting removed.

Maybe he now uses it as the great marketinginstrument it is, eventhough he's still against it in his heart?

And he does his duty on interviews when he's performing. I really like his Candadian interviews. And his solution to print interviews by using email. In that way he can actually elaborate on his responses and avoid dramas like last summer with the British & French interpretation of his words.

I think Prince is well respected all over the world in the music industry. And not all people get his music or understand that you have to look for the diamonds in his vast bundle of work yourself.

It doesn't matter really, does it? When you like Prince, you can enjoy his music. Go to see him perform and be happy with that. Who cares if the rest of the world likes Prince or gives him some status?

Status is very fragile. When you define yourself by the status that the outside world imputes, you come undone when the outside world somehow withdraws your status. Better make sure your soul is allright. That will get you through life much more peaceful than hunting for some artificial status by the standards of random outsiders.

And you only can become royal by birth. Not by talent. So, why would he want to be a royal while he has his talent he can work with?

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #17 posted 11/27/11 7:58am

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Prince is more interesting than a a King. He is a living legend. A MUSICIAN, not just some fucking entertainer dancing away and lypsiching on stage.

He is too good to be just a tabloids Star.

Btw JH is not a King. Only Elvis and MJ have been considered so. MJ was more focused on fame than music unfortunately.

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Reply #18 posted 11/27/11 8:00am

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KICKDRUMZ said:

Im knock trying to knock him or anything people, please believe that, the lame responses ive seen like, "like their r no KINGS ON THIS EARTH ONLY PRINCES" really?? I just think that some of his decisions and attitude are things that R self made things that stopped him. And also because he lives on his own man made island for the last century, and doing the math he's had more negative PR than positive..in short being a Asshole 90% of the time hurts u after awhile( a few of them, not doing We R The World, dissing Quincy Jones twice, not working with Micheal Jackson, oh. and the Guitar Hero thang so the younger crowd could get too know him)...im just saying.

So doing We R The World (in which he did contribute), being Quincy's 'friend', doing Bad, and being part of a video game would "make him a king"?

I think you are failing to see the things of merit that make him already a respected musician as much as James, MJ, and Elvis.

And you ARE trying to "knock him." You're just using a veiled manner (and terrible at it).

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #19 posted 11/27/11 8:11am

dJJ

Let's not forget that a king is raised to make a worldwide acceptable social performanc, sensitive to all cultural and religious differences and have the best interest of the people in mind, not his own. Serving his people.

Not every king can make that upbringing true and sure Prince can't. He would be such a lousy king. We all would have to do and think what he wants us to. And we all would have to be Jehova witnesses. And think about the censorship he probably would impose on his people.

No, I really think the world is better of with Prince being a musician and not responsible for any politics or social rulings.

Really.

Just imagine Prince being the king of some country. lol

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Reply #20 posted 11/27/11 8:16am

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dJJ said:

Let's not forget that a king is raised to make a worldwide acceptable social performanc, sensitive to all cultural and religious differences and have the best interest of the people in mind, not his own. Serving his people.

Not every king can make that upbringing true and sure Prince can't. He would be such a lousy king. We all would have to do and think what he wants us to. And we all would have to be Jehova witnesses. And think about the censorship he probably would impose on his people.

No, I really think the world is better of with Prince being a musician and not responsible for any politics or social rulings.

Really.

Just imagine Prince being the king of some country. lol

Elvis, JB, and MJ were't any kings or better either. Drug addled, crack/food addicts at times, fugitives from the police, dubious court hearings of character, etc etc. I mean realllllly now. Prince didn't have any of thiose issues and this joker here is "not knocking" Prince but criticizing him for not partaking on some 1980's bullshit, video games etc all the while heralding those other fools?

Some Prince fans are assbackwards as all hell lol.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #21 posted 11/27/11 8:56am

dJJ

rdhull said:

dJJ said:

Let's not forget that a king is raised to make a worldwide acceptable social performanc, sensitive to all cultural and religious differences and have the best interest of the people in mind, not his own. Serving his people.

Not every king can make that upbringing true and sure Prince can't. He would be such a lousy king. We all would have to do and think what he wants us to. And we all would have to be Jehova witnesses. And think about the censorship he probably would impose on his people.

No, I really think the world is better of with Prince being a musician and not responsible for any politics or social rulings.

Really.

Just imagine Prince being the king of some country. lol

Elvis, JB, and MJ were't any kings or better either. Drug addled, crack/food addicts at times, fugitives from the police, dubious court hearings of character, etc etc. I mean realllllly now. Prince didn't have any of thiose issues and this joker here is "not knocking" Prince but criticizing him for not partaking on some 1980's bullshit, video games etc all the while heralding those other fools?

Some Prince fans are assbackwards as all hell lol.

Yeah. P is know for worse actions than that. Stories about him not treating friends and staff right. Not being respectful to loved ones is worse than not participating in joint fund raising.

99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%.
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Reply #22 posted 11/27/11 9:25am

KCOOLMUZIQ

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KICKDRUMZ said:

While watching Micheal Jackson's " THIS IS IT!" for the two hundredth time, I was brought to the thought again of how much he's missed and how much of a dynasty he's left behind, now don't get it twisted, im a Prince fan to the bone, he's the reason im a musician today, but I can't help but wonder what separated him from the ranks of Elvis, M.J., Jimi Hendrix and maybe even James Brown as far as impact. Is because of is attitude, his reclusiveness or other matters? So the question is with someone so talented and different and a trailblazer/ pioneer Why has'nt Prince became a King to the likes of other outside of ourselves. If he died tomorrow would he be missed like Elvis or M.J. or would they talk about him for a few days on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood then move on to Kim Ho-dashian life and exploits as always.

How can you say he hasn't had any impact? There's been many an artist copying his style. Off the dome: Dangelo, Timberlake, Diddy, Van Hunt, Maroon 5, Britney Spears ...and in the 80's a hell of a lot more. In the past decade, it seems like he has garnered the appreciation that sums of his ethic, style, sound, and drive. Everyone in the biz knows of his impact and repsects it. He just isnt dead like Elvis (pun intended).

Hell...he made you become a musician...you didn't become an 'entertainer" or a "singer/dancer"

Now of course his impact is not as big as MJ or JB. But it isnt like he is going to be some page 6 blurb.

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eye will ALWAYS think of prince like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. eye mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that prince wasn't of this earth, eye would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. prince
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Reply #23 posted 11/27/11 9:38am

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dJJ said:

rdhull said:

Elvis, JB, and MJ were't any kings or better either. Drug addled, crack/food addicts at times, fugitives from the police, dubious court hearings of character, etc etc. I mean realllllly now. Prince didn't have any of thiose issues and this joker here is "not knocking" Prince but criticizing him for not partaking on some 1980's bullshit, video games etc all the while heralding those other fools?

Some Prince fans are assbackwards as all hell lol.

Yeah. P is know for worse actions than that. Stories about him not treating friends and staff right. Not being respectful to loved ones is worse than not participating in joint fund raising.

Im not sure if you are being serious or ironic/sarcastic lol..but if so, Prince has HIRED his family and friends and gave them careers and put non talent freinds on his payroll. Way before Hammer put his whole city on his lol.

Of course Prince is a boss and not just a pal so yes there are going to be some relationship issues between freind/employer and employee. But lets not disregard the initial altristic gestures.

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Reply #24 posted 11/27/11 9:39am

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btw yall are crazy if you think JB, MJ, and Elvis weren't assholes

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Reply #25 posted 11/27/11 9:46am

Graycap23

Prince matters 2 the people that count.

Dig?

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Reply #26 posted 11/27/11 9:51am

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KICKDRUMZ said:

While watching Micheal Jackson's " THIS IS IT!" for the two hundredth time, I was brought to the thought again of how much he's missed and how much of a dynasty he's left behind, now don't get it twisted, im a Prince fan to the bone, he's the reason im a musician today, but I can't help but wonder what separated him from the ranks of Elvis, M.J., Jimi Hendrix and maybe even James Brown as far as impact. Is because of is attitude, his reclusiveness or other matters? So the question is with someone so talented and different and a trailblazer/ pioneer Why has'nt Prince became a King to the likes of other outside of ourselves. If he died tomorrow would he be missed like Elvis or M.J. or would they talk about him for a few days on TMZ or Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood then move on to Kim Ho-dashian life and exploits as always.

I don't know if you are serious or not, but I think that perception of things is more than a bit skewed. That MJ and Elvis are more TMZ type fodder I do not necessarily think that is a good thing.

Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Radiohead and such are highly regarded artist for their art and really not the Kardashian or Jersey Shore zeitgeist you speak of.

I think Prince is in better place and company where he is now actually than your so-called "king" status.

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Reply #27 posted 11/27/11 9:53am

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The recent BBC Purple Reign documentary had him receive comments such as "The ultimate entertainer", "The greatest live performer of all time", "The most versatile artist in popular music". The british newspaper, The Independent gave him the comment in my sig upon Hop Farm.

When all is said and done, mark my words, the huge compliments he receives and his impact will be brought to the forefront more so than anyone else.

...Also, the Prince quotes posted already say it all and cater to the reason why it'll be like above. Lots to unravel.

This Post is produced, arranged, composed and performed by WetDream
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Reply #28 posted 11/27/11 9:57am

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prince will never escape his old image. people continue to think hes a vapid talentless song and dance man



edit: everyone still thinks he might be gay

[Edited 11/27/11 3:58am]

Talentless? Never.

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Reply #29 posted 11/27/11 10:42am

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dJJ said:

rdhull said:

Elvis, JB, and MJ were't any kings or better either. Drug addled, crack/food addicts at times, fugitives from the police, dubious court hearings of character, etc etc. I mean realllllly now. Prince didn't have any of thiose issues and this joker here is "not knocking" Prince but criticizing him for not partaking on some 1980's bullshit, video games etc all the while heralding those other fools?

Some Prince fans are assbackwards as all hell lol.

Yeah. P is know for worse actions than that. Stories about him not treating friends and staff right. Not being respectful to loved ones is worse than not participating in joint fund raising.

you've GOT to be kidding. I hope you're being sarcastic. treating band members and business associates poorly pales in comparison to going to jail for domestic violence and being on trail for molesting kids.

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