TheDigitalGardener said:

mikeyaddict said:

So, if you sought it out vicariously because of the delay in release in other regions are you going to pay for it now? I want to, but, I kinda want something physical like a CD or a 7" or my money...f--k I'm old!

Your thoughts are probably shared by more people here than would care to admit.

Just bought it at amazon and I do like it

Genesia said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Your thoughts are probably shared by more people here than would care to admit.

+1.

You would think that, given his recent interview comments, he would put this out on vinyl.

I just listened to the 90 second samplke

1. These lyrics are horrible

2. Is that autotune or really really slopy layering?

electricberet said:

Genesia said:

+1.

You would think that, given his recent interview comments, he would put this out on vinyl.

I'm back to buying everything I can on vinyl. Most artists include a CD or digital download code, which makes vinyl an easy choice. It's a little more expensive, but I don't mind.

Marrk said:

It's free on the internet. That's still too much. It'll cost you five minutes of your life.

If you do choose to pay for this and don't like it, well you just encouraged him and gave Prince the nod to bring out more utterly rubbish pale imititations of their original versions. My goodness. By the time it got to the "ooh ooh" chant the original had performed with such gusto, what was this new one doing? Prince sounding atrocious like he couldn't be arsed. Exactly how it started off. Weak and limp with some horrible rap.

I hate lyric changes too. I so miss "Call me up and SCREEAM!" and the "Baby, you could turn my momma on..." verse. I don't miss the rape references not being there but as a work of art, shouldn't the original be preserved? Perhaps some of the lyric changes are down to him deleting the 1982 version.

It'd be just awful if he was deleting the old songs as he went along recording these abominations of the originals. Imagine that!

whilst it's in my head i thought when he was going "OOOooo" towards the end he was sounding like MJ, unfortunately more Marlon than Michael

But seriously, just don't. It's a song of regret for how it was. The original was so great. I wonder if Dez did like his band? So much to miss.

Prince, shake youself awake!

Give your dollar or quid towards an extra present for someone at Christmas. And then warn them not to buy this rubbish too.

I suppose if this was the only version you'd ever heard you might like it but... so, so meh.

[Edited 11/30/11 11:56am]

Okay, you like the original. I do too. But we also have the original on bootleg and can listen to it whenever we want. So what's the big deal? Now we have one version more than we used to, and I like that. I prefer more material to less.

I guess I don't see why folks take this stuff so personally. Sometimes Prince songs get a redo and the new version is worse ("In a Large Room with No Light") but sometimes the new version is better ("The Dance"). And regardless of which one you prefer, it doesn't take away from the old version to release a new one.

As for this new version of "Extraloveable"...I like it. I'm not saying it's superior (well, the sound quality is superior); it's just different. And the fact that Prince's approach to recording is different in his 50s than in his 20s should not be surprising to anyone.

squirrelgrease said:

Has anyone actually asked a mod to add this to the front page news? 'Cause that's how it's did if ya want it done. Just click "report thread to Moderator" and tell them you think it's newsworthy.

Yup. Several days ago. Somewhere in between all the interviews that have made it to the front page.

I went the cheap route and bought it on amazon, .99 ¢ ain't going to hurt nobody.

Genesia said:

electricberet said:

+1.

You would think that, given his recent interview comments, he would put this out on vinyl.

I'm back to buying everything I can on vinyl. Most artists include a CD or digital download code, which makes vinyl an easy choice. It's a little more expensive, but I don't mind.

Maybe, for the B-side, he could include a version that has neither a Care Bear rap nor a rape reference, for those who don't find either of those particularly enjoyable.

Physical is always preferable, but in lieu of that....... DD has to do.

Bought.... Keep em coming Prince!

thanks for starting the thread. I already bought mine and it sounds great blasting thru my car stereo. even the rap is growing on me (care bear/elmo line less annoying) lol. I like it, hopefully it will b #1 and encourage him to continue to what he does!

I'm gonna find a bootleg of this just to piss Prince off

Man: "Hi, I spent the afternoon picking you a bunch of flowers from my garden and making a nice bouquet. I do hope you like them"

Other Man: "Fuck you arsehole, these flowers are fucking shit compared to the ones I stole from your garden last year, you are a dick. Keep your shitty flowers. I'll just help myself to the ones I want when you are out"

aardvark15 said:

I'm gonna find a bootleg of this just to piss Prince off

You aint even right

aardvark15 said:

I'm gonna find a bootleg of this just to piss Prince off

i'm buying two copies just to piss u off....

so i pirated this song, and i dig it a lot. so much i'm going to have to buy it on itunes just to support it.


this is why you need to stop fighting the internet so much prince

[Edited 11/30/11 18:11pm]

Decent, though I can't tell if he use autotuning or some sort of layering. The original outtake is obviously better, but regardless.

Here's my thought: What if Prince had released that original outtake instead? Sure maybe master and clean it up (or heck, even chop out the rape lyric if you want), I wonder if that would've made a bigger impression. I mean its one thing Prince trying, like way too many pop music masters, to stay musically "relevant" (i.e. copying/deriving modern trends/hooks), it's another if a certifiable gem from his "golden era" was unearthed.

Really, as biased as this will sound: Prince's 1980s "classic" work basically has aged incredibly well, much more than most of his subsequent work. Maybe that would've created more buzz than simply yet another Prince new track which initially people praise like gravy (look at the iTunes reviews) only to have buyer's remorse very shortly afterwards?

Of course, with no advanced buzz and just dumped randomly there...it still probably wouldn't have hit the Top 100. But Prince does as Prince does. He won't let basic business logic get in his way.

andykeen said:

Even if it is shit....make him NO.1!!!

it's #36 right now on the iTunes R&B/Soul songs chart. It's not in the top 200 overall songs, though.

Perhaps it'll move up more, it's listed on the front page of the itunes store.

newpowerfantastical said:

Marrk said:

It's free on the internet. That's still too much. It'll cost you five minutes of your life.

If you do choose to pay for this and don't like it, well you just encouraged him and gave Prince the nod to bring out more utterly rubbish pale imititations of their original versions. My goodness. By the time it got to the "ooh ooh" chant the original had performed with such gusto, what was this new one doing? Prince sounding atrocious like he couldn't be arsed. Exactly how it started off. Weak and limp with some horrible rap.

I hate lyric changes too. I so miss "Call me up and SCREEAM!" and the "Baby, you could turn my momma on..." verse. I don't miss the rape references not being there but as a work of art, shouldn't the original be preserved? Perhaps some of the lyric changes are down to him deleting the 1982 version.

It'd be just awful if he was deleting the old songs as he went along recording these abominations of the originals. Imagine that!

whilst it's in my head i thought when he was going "OOOooo" towards the end he was sounding like MJ, unfortunately more Marlon than Michael

But seriously, just don't. It's a song of regret for how it was. The original was so great. I wonder if Dez did like his band? So much to miss.

Prince, shake youself awake!

Give your dollar or quid towards an extra present for someone at Christmas. And then warn them not to buy this rubbish too.

I suppose if this was the only version you'd ever heard you might like it but... so, so meh.

[Edited 11/30/11 11:56am]

Okay, you like the original. I do too. But we also have the original on bootleg and can listen to it whenever we want. So what's the big deal? Now we have one version more than we used to, and I like that. I prefer more material to less.

I guess I don't see why folks take this stuff so personally. Sometimes Prince songs get a redo and the new version is worse ("In a Large Room with No Light") but sometimes the new version is better ("The Dance"). And regardless of which one you prefer, it doesn't take away from the old version to release a new one.

As for this new version of "Extraloveable"...I like it. I'm not saying it's superior (well, the sound quality is superior); it's just different. And the fact that Prince's approach to recording is different in his 50s than in his 20s should not be surprising to anyone.

There aren't even words for a thief complaining about paying $1 restitution to the victim who he so blantantly admits to robbing. Some people....

errant said:

squirrelgrease said:

Has anyone actually asked a mod to add this to the front page news? 'Cause that's how it's did if ya want it done. Just click "report thread to Moderator" and tell them you think it's newsworthy.

Yup. Several days ago. Somewhere in between all the interviews that have made it to the front page.

RRA said:

Decent, though I can't tell if he use autotuning or some sort of layering. The original outtake is obviously better, but regardless.

Here's my thought: What if Prince had released that original outtake instead? Sure maybe master and clean it up (or heck, even chop out the rape lyric if you want), I wonder if that would've made a bigger impression. I mean its one thing Prince trying, like way too many pop music masters, to stay musically "relevant" (i.e. copying/deriving modern trends/hooks), it's another if a certifiable gem from his "golden era" was unearthed.

Really, as biased as this will sound: Prince's 1980s "classic" work basically has aged incredibly well, much more than most of his subsequent work. Maybe that would've created more buzz than simply yet another Prince new track which initially people praise like gravy (look at the iTunes reviews) only to have buyer's remorse very shortly afterwards?

Of course, with no advanced buzz and just dumped randomly there...it still probably wouldn't have hit the Top 100. But Prince does as Prince does. He won't let basic business logic get in his way.

I can't imagine him releasing the original version with the rape lyric. In fact I don't think he should release that version officially as a stand-alone single, even if he were inclined to, although if there is ever a box set including outtakes from that period, it should be included. Perhaps he could release an edited version of the original, but some of the other lyrics may be troubling to him as well (e.g., the references to his parents).

However, I think he could come up with something better than what he did release. In the context of the song, Elmo and Care Bears are almost as creepy to me as the old rape reference.

electricberet said:

I can't imagine him releasing the original version with the rape lyric. In fact I don't think he should release that version officially as a stand-alone single, even if he were inclined to, although if there is ever a box set including outtakes from that period, it should be included. Perhaps he could release an edited version of the original, but some of the other lyrics may be troubling to him as well (e.g., the references to his parents).

However, I think he could come up with something better than what he did release. In the context of the song, Elmo and Care Bears are almost as creepy to me as the old rape reference.

Oh I agree about the rape lyric, but here's my angle: This isn't like a CD single where you have to spend a good amount of money to release. Specifically, Prince's money unless it's part of agreement with one of the labels. However as this is a digital single, it's just a data file. Apple gets their (large) slice, and it costs Prince little to dump it out there.

In other words, he risks and loses nothing if he had released the original version. I just...look, I thought the 2011 version of "Extra Lovable" was a fine if perhaps too unremarkable enough of a track for a single. In other words, "good" songs sell regardless of when they were produced. Simply just modern production tricks aren't enough.

But it's not like I disagree with your point.

theblueangel said:

Sir Noise, Devoid of Funk. Yuck!!!

RRA said:

electricberet said:

I can't imagine him releasing the original version with the rape lyric. In fact I don't think he should release that version officially as a stand-alone single, even if he were inclined to, although if there is ever a box set including outtakes from that period, it should be included. Perhaps he could release an edited version of the original, but some of the other lyrics may be troubling to him as well (e.g., the references to his parents).

However, I think he could come up with something better than what he did release. In the context of the song, Elmo and Care Bears are almost as creepy to me as the old rape reference.

Oh I agree about the rape lyric, but here's my angle: This isn't like a CD single where you have to spend a good amount of money to release. Specifically, Prince's money unless it's part of agreement with one of the labels. However as this is a digital single, it's just a data file. Apple gets their (large) slice, and it costs Prince little to dump it out there.

In other words, he risks and loses nothing if he had released the original version. I just...look, I thought the 2011 version of "Extra Lovable" was a fine if perhaps too unremarkable enough of a track for a single. In other words, "good" songs sell regardless of when they were produced. Simply just modern production tricks aren't enough.

But it's not like I disagree with your point.

The buzz that Prince seems to want to create about this release is that it's one of his greatest outtakes that has been held back for so long, and now it's finally there. I don't think he wants a media story about the rape lyric, which could happen even if it was edited out of the song. It's an embarrassing line to have in there. Just like John Lennon probably wished he hadn't sung about tracking down his girlfriend and killing her in "Run for Your Life."

Personally, I don't think the original version of "Extra Loveable" is that great. It's OK, but I don't listen to it that much. Most of the songs that Prince held back from releasing were held back for a reason, and the reason is that they weren't as good as the material he did release. The better stuff came out eventually when he started running out of new ideas. One big exception, in my opinion, is the original version of "Old Friends 4 Sale," which had brilliant lyrics that were changed to nonsense because they were too personal. There may be other songs like that in the vault that I'd love to hear. In general, though, I think the stronger unreleased material tends to be alternate versions of songs that he did release, like the original "We Can Funk" and the Controversy-era "Tick, Tick, Bang." There must be other early takes of certain songs that haven't circulated, including songs that he regularly performs and could be released without raising any problems with the JW police.

But, as I've said, I hope he doesn't put out any vault material because I could use the $$$ to buy other stuff.

newpowerfantastical said:

Okay, you like the original. I do too. But we also have the original on bootleg and can listen to it whenever we want. So what's the big deal? Now we have one version more than we used to, and I like that. I prefer more material to less.

I guess I don't see why folks take this stuff so personally. Sometimes Prince songs get a redo and the new version is worse ("In a Large Room with No Light") but sometimes the new version is better ("The Dance"). And regardless of which one you prefer, it doesn't take away from the old version to release a new one.

As for this new version of "Extraloveable"...I like it. I'm not saying it's superior (well, the sound quality is superior); it's just different. And the fact that Prince's approach to recording is different in his 50s than in his 20s should not be surprising to anyone.

I agree with what you say. Just downloaded the new version, and I do really like it very much. It sounds cool and it is funky! I would love this to be a success for Prince! It's a song that should be played on the radio and become a hit!

Dreamer20ten said:

newpowerfantastical said:

Okay, you like the original. I do too. But we also have the original on bootleg and can listen to it whenever we want. So what's the big deal? Now we have one version more than we used to, and I like that. I prefer more material to less.

I guess I don't see why folks take this stuff so personally. Sometimes Prince songs get a redo and the new version is worse ("In a Large Room with No Light") but sometimes the new version is better ("The Dance"). And regardless of which one you prefer, it doesn't take away from the old version to release a new one.

As for this new version of "Extraloveable"...I like it. I'm not saying it's superior (well, the sound quality is superior); it's just different. And the fact that Prince's approach to recording is different in his 50s than in his 20s should not be surprising to anyone.

I agree with what you say. Just downloaded the new version, and I do really like it very much. It sounds cool and it is funky! I would love this to be a success for Prince! It's a song that should be played on the radio and become a hit!

thanks for the info., i just bought it on amazon.com

alandail said:

andykeen said:

Even if it is shit....make him NO.1!!!

it's #36 right now on the iTunes R&B/Soul songs chart. It's not in the top 200 overall songs, though.

Perhaps it'll move up more, it's listed on the front page of the itunes store.

It's moving up...it's #3 on the iTunes R&B songs chart, and has now made it to #144 on the overall chart. Honestly, already much better than I had expected...F.U.N.K. never made the iTunes Top 200 at all.

After he's done in Canada he should come back to the US and do a little promotion. I think people might check out his songs if they a)knew about them, and if b)the songs he promoted turned out to actually be available for download!

[Edited 12/2/11 9:12am]