smoothcriminal12 said:

uuhson said:

theres lots of songs i can laugh at for being horrible, but will still be a hit. quality=/=hit. but im not saying its not a good song

I love Bad but shit is tryhard as hell.

The video (which I like) and the lyrics might be corny (but then Mike's usually corny LOL), but musically I think it's a sleek, sexy track. Nothing really sounds like it either.

I probably dig how dramatic the song structure is. Not surprising considering Michael loves movies.

Anyone here heard the Extended mix of Bad? That drum intro is sick!

hhhhdmt said:

crazymouse said:

No offense but playing an instrument is not "easy"- especially playing it to the level that Prince does. Not everyone can play a musical instrument and its pretty rare to have the all round musicianship of someone like Prince

I'm not downplaying Prince's talend and or denying him being an amazing musician, how could i? But the fact that people here are trying to downplay Mike's talend by saying that because he didn't play any music instrument, which he could but anyway, that meant that he wasn't a musician or shit like that is just stupid. So, again to bring another example. Justin Bieber is a multy instumentalist. That makes him an amazing musician? I don't think so. And personally to be able to come up with melodies only by using your head or by beating things, or using your mouth (beatbox) like Jackson did, that is what i consider a extremely talented person. But like i said everyone have their preferences.

crazymouse said:

hhhhdmt said:

I'm not downplaying Prince's talend and or denying him being an amazing musician, how could i? But the fact that people here are trying to downplay Mike's talend by saying that because he didn't play any music instrument, which he could but anyway, that meant that he wasn't a musician or shit like that is just stupid. So, again to bring another example. Justin Bieber is a multy instumentalist. That makes him an amazing musician? I don't think so. And personally to be able to come up with melodies only by using your head or by beating things, or using your mouth (beatbox) like Jackson did, that is what i consider a extremely talented person. But like i said everyone have their preferences.

pretty retarded claim here. no one is trying to say that playing an instrument makes you an amazing musician. playing an instrument amazingly makes you an amazing musician

uuhson said:

crazymouse said:

I'm not downplaying Prince's talend and or denying him being an amazing musician, how could i? But the fact that people here are trying to downplay Mike's talend by saying that because he didn't play any music instrument, which he could but anyway, that meant that he wasn't a musician or shit like that is just stupid. So, again to bring another example. Justin Bieber is a multy instumentalist. That makes him an amazing musician? I don't think so. And personally to be able to come up with melodies only by using your head or by beating things, or using your mouth (beatbox) like Jackson did, that is what i consider a extremely talented person. But like i said everyone have their preferences.

pretty retarded claim here. no one is trying to say that playing an instrument makes you an amazing musician. playing an instrument amazingly makes you an amazing musician

What makes an amazing musician is the ability to create/compose music, the ability to produce music, the ability to have a great perception regarding music (what is also called having a “music ear”), the ability to have a fantasy regarding music and a music memory. What makes an amazing musician is his ability to study or explore different kinds of music genres besides their own. But most of all what makes an amazing musician is their ability to touch people’s soul with their music. So your "retarted" comment should be addressed to mr. Eric Leeds remark who claimed that Mike was not a musician and not so much to my comment.

The kazoo, a triangle, and slapping bricks, cakes or whatever, there's some instruments for Beiber

crazymouse said:

uuhson said:

pretty retarded claim here. no one is trying to say that playing an instrument makes you an amazing musician. playing an instrument amazingly makes you an amazing musician

What makes an amazing musician is the ability to create/compose music, the ability to produce music, the ability to have a great perception regarding music (what is also called having a “music ear”), the ability to have a fantasy regarding music and a music memory. What makes an amazing musician is his ability to study or explore different kinds of music genres besides their own. But most of all what makes an amazing musician is their ability to touch people’s soul with their music. So your "retarted" comment should be addressed to mr. Eric Leeds remark who claimed that Mike was not a musician and not so much to my comment.

looking at your post history it seems you only come to this prince forum to discuss michael jackson. pretty interesting

kimrachell said:

imago said:

Oh lawd, where do I even start with how brilliantly camp these two videos are?

I'll start with MJ:

BAD:

Even today, knowing what to expect, I bust out laughing when I see the MJ video. The "You ain't bad!!! You ain't nothin'" belted out like Paul Lind on helium trying to sound gansta is like an omen that you're in for one truly gay treat. And I don't mean gay like "dude, that is soooo gay.", but gay in the most ass-pounding sense.

The hollering "hoooooo'ssss" and the spitty sounding "dahhhh's" and the gratuitous mouth-whipes only add to the hilarity of the video. Coupled with his frankentien meets Pinhead outfit, sort of like a Dominitrix outfit designed by Vera Wang, and his get-along buddies dancing street gang pose', how could one not laugh their asses off?

Then to make it even more special, the scene where MJ pulls the cover off of the air vent, and let's the air whip through his greasy jerry-curl mullet like a York Peppermint Paddy meets Soul-glo commercial bests any hair twirl Charlie's Angels ever had, making your slippery slide into MJ comedy hell complete.

MNIP

Now, this video is a real treat. The Judas Priest meets Zoro the Gay Blade outfit is amazing. But where MJ's bad is just one giant sausage party that stars on overgrown boy-child with extremely bad fashion sense, Prince throws in a Latino bombshell with an Egyptian-inspired identity crisis and plump, red, shock-absorbant DSLs.

Taking ques from The Sound oF Music where Maria manages to run from the top of the Guntersburg down into the abbey (a 35 minute drive) in about 5 1/2 minutes, Prince's Paisley park party spills out into the narrow allyways of downtown Minneapolis erupting into what amounts to a very camp rave, but with black people. It's a video that defies logic and the rules of pyshics. There's everything in this video--homoerotic hip hop dancing, Prince making some very strange hip gyrations in heels and a gun-mic.. a mysterious box presented by a female with a mighty nice box of her own, god-speak (would our lord be happy if he came 2day?), a Robert Mapplethorpe inspired chain-mask and police cap tha screams "I'm a bottom, but I like pain......hurt me!", and of course the chorus line, which itself is both odd and camp.... "My name is Prince....My name is Prince....My name is Prince...."

But here's the thing.....

MNIP feels insane. It feels unsafe...it feels horendously over-the-top and ballsy.

Bad, on the other hand, like much of the album itself, feels utterly safe and sterile, if not well-composed and put together. I mean, who hasn't listened to Dirty Diana, and thought that it was a safer version of Darlin Nikki---basically Darlin Nikki but with a condom on?

Bad is a production...a show.

My Name is Prince is art of both the lowest and highest form.

Both.....are.....hilarious.

.

[Edited 11/10/11 2:08am]

what would we do without you dan?

artist76 said:

imago said:

Oh lawd, where do I even start with how brilliantly camp these two videos are?

I'll start with MJ:

BAD:

Even today, knowing what to expect, I bust out laughing when I see the MJ video. The "You ain't bad!!! You ain't nothin'" belted out like Paul Lind on helium trying to sound gansta is like an omen that you're in for one truly gay treat. And I don't mean gay like "dude, that is soooo gay.", but gay in the most ass-pounding sense.

The hollering "hoooooo'ssss" and the spitty sounding "dahhhh's" and the gratuitous mouth-whipes only add to the hilarity of the video. Coupled with his frankentien meets Pinhead outfit, sort of like a Dominitrix outfit designed by Vera Wang, and his get-along buddies dancing street gang pose', how could one not laugh their asses off?

Then to make it even more special, the scene where MJ pulls the cover off of the air vent, and let's the air whip through his greasy jerry-curl mullet like a York Peppermint Paddy meets Soul-glo commercial bests any hair twirl Charlie's Angels ever had, making your slippery slide into MJ comedy hell complete.

MNIP

Now, this video is a real treat. The Judas Priest meets Zoro the Gay Blade outfit is amazing. But where MJ's bad is just one giant sausage party that stars on overgrown boy-child with extremely bad fashion sense, Prince throws in a Latino bombshell with an Egyptian-inspired identity crisis and plump, red, shock-absorbant DSLs.

Taking ques from The Sound oF Music where Maria manages to run from the top of the Guntersburg down into the abbey (a 35 minute drive) in about 5 1/2 minutes, Prince's Paisley park party spills out into the narrow allyways of downtown Minneapolis erupting into what amounts to a very camp rave, but with black people. It's a video that defies logic and the rules of pyshics. There's everything in this video--homoerotic hip hop dancing, Prince making some very strange hip gyrations in heels and a gun-mic.. a mysterious box presented by a female with a mighty nice box of her own, god-speak (would our lord be happy if he came 2day?), a Robert Mapplethorpe inspired chain-mask and police cap tha screams "I'm a bottom, but I like pain......hurt me!", and of course the chorus line, which itself is both odd and camp.... "My name is Prince....My name is Prince....My name is Prince...."

But here's the thing.....

MNIP feels insane. It feels unsafe...it feels horendously over-the-top and ballsy.

Bad, on the other hand, like much of the album itself, feels utterly safe and sterile, if not well-composed and put together. I mean, who hasn't listened to Dirty Diana, and thought that it was a safer version of Darlin Nikki---basically Darlin Nikki but with a condom on?

Bad is a production...a show.

My Name is Prince is art of both the lowest and highest form.

Both.....are.....hilarious.

.

[Edited 11/10/11 2:08am]

The story of Prince rejecting "Bad" had been told so often, that I had skipped over this thread, but I'm soooo glad I was bored and happened to click on it. This is hilarious! Yet so accurate! You are genius at combining humor and truth.

Your conclusion at "But here's the thing" is true too - MNIP is just so insane, it's kind of scary, and fascinating. There's a "I don't give a fuck" je ne sais quoi about it. When I saw the "In Living Color" Jamie Foxx parody of it, I couldn't really tell which was the parody and the real one, lol.

uuhson said:

crazymouse said:

What makes an amazing musician is the ability to create/compose music, the ability to produce music, the ability to have a great perception regarding music (what is also called having a “music ear”), the ability to have a fantasy regarding music and a music memory. What makes an amazing musician is his ability to study or explore different kinds of music genres besides their own. But most of all what makes an amazing musician is their ability to touch people’s soul with their music. So your "retarted" comment should be addressed to mr. Eric Leeds remark who claimed that Mike was not a musician and not so much to my comment.

looking at your post history it seems you only come to this prince forum to discuss michael jackson. pretty interesting

Yes i pretty much come only for that. And of course that doesn't have anything to do with the content of my comment but whatever.

crazymouse said:

uuhson said:

looking at your post history it seems you only come to this prince forum to discuss michael jackson. pretty interesting

Yes i pretty much come only for that. And of course that doesn't have anything to do with the content of my comment but whatever.

fanaticism is a scary thing, regardless of the diety

uuhson said:

crazymouse said:

Yes i pretty much come only for that. And of course that doesn't have anything to do with the content of my comment but whatever.

fanaticism is a scary thing, regardless of the diety

I'm presuming that you are talking based on personal experience, right? Because from what i have heard it takes one to know one. Cheers mate.

[Edited 12/12/11 4:08am]

^ n1

NouveauDance said:

Dsoul said:

Does anyone here remember Barry Gibb talking about how insecure Jacko was regarding Prince? He said he could never understand it but Jacko would cry and keep asking who he thought was the better artist.

Just the image of Jackson sobbing to Barry Gibb is a funny image even if it is apocryphal!

Is there a video of Barry Gibb ACTUALLY saying this or is this some made-up media shit?

jonylawson said:

lisa

"he didnt think it was funky,he didnt like the vibe of it"

wendy"he laughd at the first line"

eric leeds.."michael wasnt a musician,prince was.complete opposites"

fascinating !

That's interesting. I think back at all of Prince's videos,movies, songs that I laughed at or didn't like the vibe. Different strokes for different folks. I FEEL Michael's music. I LISTEN to Prince's music. That's where the difference is for me. I respect Prince's musicianship, but it doesn't make me prefer his music over Michael's creativity, musicianship, vocals, artistry,etc. The bottomline is Michael was a musician who could play several instrument(according to people who worked with him in the studio). The people who said this related that they were SURPRISED at just how well Michael could play guitar, piano, drums etc. Of course, we all know that Prince is a master of the guitar and very good with the piano,drums,etc. My question is did Leeds work with Michael or did he just ASSUME that Michael wasn't a musician? Just wondering.

To the very first post about this - this isn't new news.

Prince himself back in the mid 2000s said during a BET countdown of the all time greatest videos that he liked the song but thought the first line was dubious. "I'm sure not singing that to you. And you're sure not singing that to me" he laughs recalling it.

Everyone on here knows MJ and Prince were due to duet on BAD, and I've heard both respective camps recount various meetings with different slants - Prince was intimidated and wanted to come off as a bad ass, MJ was intimidated. Prince thought the song was weak vs Prince saying "It will be a hit without me". And on and on.

As a fan of both I would have loved to hear what would have come from it, same with the original plan for the Batman album - but it just wasn't to be.

The fact that both men respected and influenced each other, and some reports from both camps will claim they were friendly rivals and sent each other James Brown and Sly videos, sadly doesn't translate to a whole sectipon of fans on btoh sides who just want to play up a Vs competition and are unwilling to give credit to their opposing side.

I've said it before and will no doubt say it again, if you are only an MJ fan, or only a Prince fan to the exclusion of listening to the other then you are robbing yourself of some wonderfully inspiring music.

Except that robbing yourself of, say, 80% of Jackson's material would not actually be detrimental to your listening regime, considering that only Of The Wall and portions of Thriller, plus his Jackson 5 material, are either listenable or inspiring.

That said, your point about liking one to to the detriment of the other is a good one.

ComputerBlueSpain said:

Let's be realistic here: there is NO competition as some people are trying to convey. Michael is NO match for Prince. Just to think that I used to be an enormous MJ fan...!

The reality is that Michael, apart from dancing and singing, is untalented. But, then again, I'll give him credit for having been probably the greatest dancer in mainstream music industry and, until the Bad tour, a fantastic singer. Apart from that, however, there is no more Michael Jackson. He is non-existent, as a talent, in any other area. To any of this opinion's critic: can you, as an adult, listen to the post-OTW work with a straight face? After OTW, his act was nothing more than childish, ridiculous and laughable while Prince became better and better.

You are forgetting that he had the han in writing most of his songs too. Often went uncredited playing percussions, guitars, and keyboards on his tracks too, unless you look for it. I am reading Man In The Music by Joe Vogel a new book describing the music process with Mike in the studio and the stories the producers and engineers share are amazing. Michael was hard at work on all of his songs. Untalented really???

Homeless man walks in on Michael and Stevie facing eachother eye to eye recording "Just Good Friends" and is stunned. They had to eascort him out of the building lol.

This is such an absurd statement.Newsflash: singing and dancing is what musical artists do. How could he be "untalented" if he was able to do those things really well? Let's see YOU get up onstage and do what he could do....if it's so easy.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

QUESTLOVE: Michael attended many of the Purple Rain concerts. I have the four Purple Rain shows that were in Los Angeles in ’84. And now that I realize that Mike was in the audience, I often watch it to see if I can spot him [laughs]. But it makes you think. Why was Mike there four nights in a row? You have already created Thriller, you’ve done the Moonwalk, you’ve done the groundbreaking videos and you’ve sold a million a week. You are officially in the Guinness Book of World Records. For all intents and purposes, Purple Rain sold 15 million units, but it was hardly the 33 million that Thriller went on to sell. So why are you this curious to who is behind you? Then I realized that you can’t be that successful without being competitive. Michael knew Prince was a serious threat.

Even up to MJ's tragic death he was still very competitive of Prince & wanted to do everything he could to set records that Prince couldn't keep up with.He felt god was going to give Prince his ideas if he didn't do all he could be.

Prince's name was brought up a few times during the Conrad trial. The main reason Mj wanted to play 50 nights in london was to beat prince record there at the O2 arena. Which i felt he couldn't even if the tragic events never happen..

He couldn't beat Prince out of a paperbag even if the tragic events hadn't have happened. Michael stopped touring after 1997 after that got lazy. Kids or no kids, it don't matter. Madonna had children too (biogically) and she still toured. 2004 both Prince and Madonna the other two 80's icons had the top 2 tours and here is Michael starting the year off with his concert of standing on top of an SUV in trouble AGAIN for child molestation charges AGAIN. He was sued in 2000 for pulling out of some millenium concerts, Prince has been trouble for pulling out of a couple of shows before, but he is ALWAYS performing. I doubt MJ would've been able to do 10 shows. The fans were lucky they could even get one. He could've beat him. BULLSHIT!

Astasheiks said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

QUESTLOVE: Michael attended many of the Purple Rain concerts. I have the four Purple Rain shows that were in Los Angeles in ’84. And now that I realize that Mike was in the audience, I often watch it to see if I can spot him [laughs]. But it makes you think. Why was Mike there four nights in a row? You have already created Thriller, you’ve done the Moonwalk, you’ve done the groundbreaking videos and you’ve sold a million a week. You are officially in the Guinness Book of World Records. For all intents and purposes, Purple Rain sold 15 million units, but it was hardly the 33 million that Thriller went on to sell. So why are you this curious to who is behind you? Then I realized that you can’t be that successful without being competitive. Michael knew Prince was a serious threat.

Wow!!!!

Wow nothin'. Quest just told the truth. Why are at four of his concerts or even 1 when you got the biggest selling album of all time and everything else going for him? As previously stated, Michael wanted to beat Prince's London record. If this person is no competition/threat, you wouldn't be even wasting your time.

TurnItUp said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Even up to MJ's tragic death he was still very competitive of Prince & wanted to do everything he could to set records that Prince couldn't keep up with.He felt god was going to give Prince his ideas if he didn't do all he could be.

Prince's name was brought up a few times during the Conrad trial. The main reason Mj wanted to play 50 nights in london was to beat prince record there at the O2 arena. Which i felt he couldn't even if the tragic events never happen..

He couldn't beat Prince out of a paperbag even if the tragic events hadn't have happened. Michael stopped touring after 1997 after that got lazy. Kids or no kids, it don't matter. Madonna had children too (biogically) and she still toured. 2004 both Prince and Madonna the other two 80's icons had the top 2 tours and here is Michael starting the year off with his concert of standing on top of an SUV in trouble AGAIN for child molestation charges AGAIN. He was sued in 2000 for pulling out of some millenium concerts, Prince has been trouble for pulling out of a couple of shows before, but he is ALWAYS performing. I doubt MJ would've been able to do 10 shows. The fans were lucky they could even get one. He could've beat him. BULLSHIT!

Some of you Prince stans forget just one thing. Michael DID beat Prince at the 02. Michael SOLD OUT 50 shows at the 02. The FACT that he did this with NO NEW ALBUM, no FREE album giveaways, NO build-up promotion, no public appearances in YEARS,etc. Just HIM, an announcement of a tour and BAM 50 shows sold-out in a matter of minutes. The bottomline will always be THAT fact. If Michael had lived, I have no doubt that he would have done every show. The way that these shows were spread out over 6 months or more, Michael would have been able to do them. FTR, this was something that Michael had done before with his tours. The BULLSHIT is those who try to deny the FACT that Michael DID sell-out 50 shows. That is a record that NO ONE ELSE has beaten, yet. When or IF it happens, THEN let's come back and talk.

[Edited 12/20/11 16:32pm]

Free2BMe said:

TurnItUp said:

He couldn't beat Prince out of a paperbag even if the tragic events hadn't have happened. Michael stopped touring after 1997 after that got lazy. Kids or no kids, it don't matter. Madonna had children too (biogically) and she still toured. 2004 both Prince and Madonna the other two 80's icons had the top 2 tours and here is Michael starting the year off with his concert of standing on top of an SUV in trouble AGAIN for child molestation charges AGAIN. He was sued in 2000 for pulling out of some millenium concerts, Prince has been trouble for pulling out of a couple of shows before, but he is ALWAYS performing. I doubt MJ would've been able to do 10 shows. The fans were lucky they could even get one. He could've beat him. BULLSHIT!

Some of you Prince stans forget just one thing. Michael DID beat Prince at the 02. Michael SOLD OUT 50 shows at the 02. The bottomline will always be THAT fact. If Michael had lived, I have no doubt that he would have done every show. The way that these shows were spread out over 6 months or more, Michael would have been able to do them. FTR, this was something that Michael had done before with his tours. The BULLSHIT is those who try to deny the FACT that Michael DID sell-out 50 shows. That is a record that NO ONE ELSE has beaten, yet. When or IF it happens, THEN let's come back and talk.

True, but still... nobody knows if Michael could physically do these shows.. nobody... Sure he wanted do these shows, but I think the other side of Michael said he actually couldn't do it..

xLiberiangirl said:

Free2BMe said:

Some of you Prince stans forget just one thing. Michael DID beat Prince at the 02. Michael SOLD OUT 50 shows at the 02. The bottomline will always be THAT fact. If Michael had lived, I have no doubt that he would have done every show. The way that these shows were spread out over 6 months or more, Michael would have been able to do them. FTR, this was something that Michael had done before with his tours. The BULLSHIT is those who try to deny the FACT that Michael DID sell-out 50 shows. That is a record that NO ONE ELSE has beaten, yet. When or IF it happens, THEN let's come back and talk.

True, but still... nobody knows if Michael could physically do these shows.. nobody... Sure he wanted do these shows, but I think the other side of Michael said he actually couldn't do it..

I actually think that Michael could have done these shows because of the way that he had them scheduled. People seem to forget that he was not going to be doing 50 shows back to back every day of the week. Michael had these shows set up where some months, he had a week or more off to be with his children. I also think that when Michael finished the London 02 series of concerts, he was going to bring the tour to the US. You can bet that it would have been an instant sell-out as well.

I was extremely sad and upset that out of the big three, the one at the top of my list wasn't the one touring, though Janet made up for it a little bit only, and I only saw her during her promo tour. I agree that MJ did beat Prince's record, even if he didn't live to perform those dates, and in a way, I feel that selling out those shows gave him the validation that he was loved before he passed away cause he was apparently anxious about the tickets, but he didn't need to sell out to know it or he would have still been here

I also agree mj is a hard worker and I totally agree with the poster who feels MJ and listens to prince a lot, that describes me too.

BoySimon said:

Except that robbing yourself of, say, 80% of Jackson's material would not actually be detrimental to your listening regime, considering that only Of The Wall and portions of Thriller, plus his Jackson 5 material, are either listenable or inspiring.

That said, your point about liking one to to the detriment of the other is a good one.

oh man, im glad im not the only one that feels this way, especially the 'portions of thriller' part

The FACT that he did this with NO NEW ALBUM, no FREE album giveaways, NO build-up promotion, no public appearances in YEARS,etc.

do you realize how dumb this sounds? that there is exactly why it sold so well, because hed been out of the loop for so long. when i miss a prince show, i think to myself: "oh well, theres always next year". with MJ's thing it was more likeley to be a once and a life time situation for most people

His speech was slurred he was thin like Karen carpenter and it's as if they doped him up on some stimulant and dressed him up in a wig and makeup propped him up like they were trying to make a corpse look alive. He looked like jack friggin skellington !

my lord

[Edited 12/21/11 5:33am]

Free2BMe said:

TurnItUp said:

He couldn't beat Prince out of a paperbag even if the tragic events hadn't have happened. Michael stopped touring after 1997 after that got lazy. Kids or no kids, it don't matter. Madonna had children too (biogically) and she still toured. 2004 both Prince and Madonna the other two 80's icons had the top 2 tours and here is Michael starting the year off with his concert of standing on top of an SUV in trouble AGAIN for child molestation charges AGAIN. He was sued in 2000 for pulling out of some millenium concerts, Prince has been trouble for pulling out of a couple of shows before, but he is ALWAYS performing. I doubt MJ would've been able to do 10 shows. The fans were lucky they could even get one. He could've beat him. BULLSHIT!

Some of you Prince stans forget just one thing. Michael DID beat Prince at the 02. Michael SOLD OUT 50 shows at the 02. The FACT that he did this with NO NEW ALBUM, no FREE album giveaways, NO build-up promotion, no public appearances in YEARS,etc. Just HIM, an announcement of a tour and BAM 50 shows sold-out in a matter of minutes. The bottomline will always be THAT fact. If Michael had lived, I have no doubt that he would have done every show. The way that these shows were spread out over 6 months or more, Michael would have been able to do them. FTR, this was something that Michael had done before with his tours. The BULLSHIT is those who try to deny the FACT that Michael DID sell-out 50 shows. That is a record that NO ONE ELSE has beaten, yet. When or IF it happens, THEN let's come back and talk.

[Edited 12/20/11 16:32pm]

I ain't forgot shit cuz MJ didn't beat shit. There were 50 shows scheduled, but I didn't hear nothin about no 50 sold out shows and even if it was he didn't get to do 1 and even if he had've lived to July of 2009 we still would've had to seen if could've done all 50 shows and then he would've beat Prince's record. NOT! I dont' think he could've done it. He hadn't been keeping himself polished and it was even reported that Michael was livid when AEG added more shows when he initially agreed to do only 10! What up with that?

[Edited 12/21/11 5:54am]

Free2BMe said:

xLiberiangirl said:

True, but still... nobody knows if Michael could physically do these shows.. nobody... Sure he wanted do these shows, but I think the other side of Michael said he actually couldn't do it..

I actually think that Michael could have done these shows because of the way that he had them scheduled. People seem to forget that he was not going to be doing 50 shows back to back every day of the week. Michael had these shows set up where some months, he had a week or more off to be with his children. I also think that when Michael finished the London 02 series of concerts, he was going to bring the tour to the US. You can bet that it would have been an instant sell-out as well.

I don't think he even could've done them in installments. Like I said the fans were lucky they got 1 show. This was not 1987/88 or 1992/93. He was not what he was.

blacknote said:

I'll take 'Bad' anyday over 'My Name Is Prince'. Especially the video. P as a gun toting gangster? I'll have an easier time believing MJ was a member of the Black Guerilla Family. I'm going to watch the "MNIP" video right now just for a laugh. Love ya, P!