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Reply #30 posted 11/04/11 7:20am

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Javi said:

And to me it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with their beliefs. I do respect them, but going to your own house to preach seems intolerable to me. As I said before, I'd say "no, thank you" if they try to talk to me in the street, but going to people's homes to preach, to sell, etc. should be forbidden.

Jehovah Witnesses are not selling anything. Sharing the bible message, yes. Selling, no.

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Reply #31 posted 11/04/11 7:27am

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InspirationalOne said:

Javi said:

And to me it has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with their beliefs. I do respect them, but going to your own house to preach seems intolerable to me. As I said before, I'd say "no, thank you" if they try to talk to me in the street, but going to people's homes to preach, to sell, etc. should be forbidden.

Jehovah Witnesses are not selling anything. Sharing the bible message, yes. Selling, no.

I said: "Going to people's homes to preach, to sell, etc. should be forbidden". It's an enumeration, and I've mentioned two things: preach and sell. They aren't selling, but are preaching. And I do think going to your own home to preach is disturbing and should be forbidden. It's different from doing it in the public space. That's the way I see it.
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Reply #32 posted 11/04/11 9:25am

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Whenever the Jehovahs show up at my door, I think, oh no, not again! I'm a little more intrigued about their believes since Prince is one, but I still don't let them in because I don't like preachers. So here's my question: has anyone ever let the Jehovahs in because of Prince?

The truth is, yes I have.

I don't think they are correct in their tacts.

I feel they accepted Prince in because he has money & is generous above it all.

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Reply #33 posted 11/04/11 10:40am

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Javi said:

InspirationalOne said:

Jehovah Witnesses are not selling anything. Sharing the bible message, yes. Selling, no.

I said: "Going to people's homes to preach, to sell, etc. should be forbidden". It's an enumeration, and I've mentioned two things: preach and sell. They aren't selling, but are preaching. And I do think going to your own home to preach is disturbing and should be forbidden. It's different from doing it in the public space. That's the way I see it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion/feeling. I respect yours. Have a good day!

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Reply #34 posted 11/04/11 11:11am

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Javi said:

I said: "Going to people's homes to preach, to sell, etc. should be forbidden". It's an enumeration, and I've mentioned two things: preach and sell. They aren't selling, but are preaching. And I do think going to your own home to preach is disturbing and should be forbidden. It's different from doing it in the public space. That's the way I see it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion/feeling. I respect yours. Have a good day!

Excellent.

Everytime there's a debate about Prince's religious beliefs, I always defend him, although I don't share his views. And I normally like his religious lyrics far more than his sexual ones. It's just the going-to-your-house thing that I reject.

[Edited 11/4/11 11:12am]

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Reply #35 posted 11/04/11 11:33am

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I never have let them in, because I find it quite odd they can come in and share what they believe and 'KNOW' about TRUTH. BUT, once you are 'IN' you can not question anything, instead accept it as truth...No going against the watchtower as it is the ONLY source, and by choosing to reject it, they would disfellowship you? I find it hypocritical, and a bit close minded. Haha. So no...BUT I would talk to anyone if it remains a conversation that is peaceful and willing to see with the 3rd eye and not just the normal two. Haha

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Reply #36 posted 11/04/11 12:52pm

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Why not say no thank you and feel good that at least someone cares enough about you to approach you with a positive message. The slamming of the door and such seems so hateful.

How do you know they are doing it because they care about people?

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Reply #37 posted 11/04/11 2:00pm

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ConsciousContact said:

Evvy said:

Why not say no thank you and feel good that at least someone cares enough about you to approach you with a positive message. The slamming of the door and such seems so hateful.

How do you know they are doing it because they care about people?

Who would volunteer their time (outside of secular activities and work where you get paid or do it for personal gratification) to go door to door or do street work talking to strangers without caring? I know I wouldn't! Caring/love is deeply rooted in what Jehovah's Witnesses do. I seriously doubt a Jehovah's Witness roll out the bed in the morning and say, "Come on! Let's go get doors slammed in our face, or rejected," just to be doing it. I seriously doubt they participate in the ministry just to get mistreated. They are optimistic people. As I stated before they dust their shoes off and continue on to the next door (or person) doing a work they were commissioned to do. Caring/love is deeply fused in what they do, at least in my eyes.

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Reply #38 posted 11/04/11 4:15pm

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Javi said:

NeonCraxx said:

Slamming the door is straight up disrespectful.

THEY don't have the right to go to my house to disturb me. It seems that even at home you cannot be still and peaceful.

Then don't open the door in the first place. If you're going to open the door just to disrespectfully slam it in their face for doing what they believe is right in their religion, I believe that's wrong.

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Reply #39 posted 11/04/11 5:42pm

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bobbyperu said:

Whenever the Jehovahs show up at my door, I think, oh no, not again! I'm a little more intrigued about their believes since Prince is one, but I still don't let them in because I don't like preachers. So here's my question: has anyone ever let the Jehovahs in because of Prince?

I don't let them in because my feeling is this religion is not based in the truth. Several members I've known appeared to be nice people but after knowing them for a couple of years I found them to be a hypocritical group of people. They have the right to believe whatever they want. They have the right to knock on people's doors yet I highly doubt Prince would feel I have the right to knock on his door to talk to him even though caring/love is deeply fused in what I do.
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Reply #40 posted 11/04/11 6:15pm

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I had a lady hand me a watchtower last week and while she was talking I thought about Prince lol
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Reply #41 posted 11/05/11 2:51am

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InspirationalOne said:

ConsciousContact said:

How do you know they are doing it because they care about people?

Who would volunteer their time (outside of secular activities and work where you get paid or do it for personal gratification) to go door to door or do street work talking to strangers without caring? I know I wouldn't! Caring/love is deeply rooted in what Jehovah's Witnesses do. I seriously doubt a Jehovah's Witness roll out the bed in the morning and say, "Come on! Let's go get doors slammed in our face, or rejected," just to be doing it. I seriously doubt they participate in the ministry just to get mistreated. They are optimistic people. As I stated before they dust their shoes off and continue on to the next door (or person) doing a work they were commissioned to do. Caring/love is deeply fused in what they do, at least in my eyes.

What do you mean by doing work they were commissioned to do? If they are doing it out of a perceived duty then that implies they are motivated not for the love of mankind but the gratification of their own ego. I don't want to single out JWs because it is rife in society that people hide behind doing "good works" in order to satisfy their own ego. I'm not saying it's wrong what they are doing I just question peoples motives.

I just noticed what you wrote in brackets about doing work for personal gratification. Again I ask you how do you know they are not going door to door for personal gratification? Just because it is in the name of religion, don't be fooled into believing people do it for love. Maybe they do. The question still stands though.

[Edited 11/5/11 2:55am]

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Reply #42 posted 11/05/11 3:26am

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i think its rude to go door to door bothering people about jesus. and if they happen to find someone thats willing to decide to become a JW after some bozos knocked on their door, then theyre only preying on the retarded

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Reply #43 posted 11/05/11 4:56am

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uuhson said:

i think its rude to go door to door bothering people about jesus. and if they happen to find someone thats willing to decide to become a JW after some bozos knocked on their door, then theyre only preying on the retarded

It is rude.

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Reply #44 posted 11/05/11 5:30am

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NouveauDance said:

uuhson said:

i think its rude to go door to door bothering people about jesus. and if they happen to find someone thats willing to decide to become a JW after some bozos knocked on their door, then theyre only preying on the retarded

It is rude.

It REALLY isn't, though.

One must be a real sensitive individual to call that rude.

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Reply #45 posted 11/05/11 5:57am

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ConsciousContact said:

InspirationalOne said:

Who would volunteer their time (outside of secular activities and work where you get paid or do it for personal gratification) to go door to door or do street work talking to strangers without caring? I know I wouldn't! Caring/love is deeply rooted in what Jehovah's Witnesses do. I seriously doubt a Jehovah's Witness roll out the bed in the morning and say, "Come on! Let's go get doors slammed in our face, or rejected," just to be doing it. I seriously doubt they participate in the ministry just to get mistreated. They are optimistic people. As I stated before they dust their shoes off and continue on to the next door (or person) doing a work they were commissioned to do. Caring/love is deeply fused in what they do, at least in my eyes.

What do you mean by doing work they were commissioned to do? If they are doing it out of a perceived duty then that implies they are motivated not for the love of mankind but the gratification of their own ego. I don't want to single out JWs because it is rife in society that people hide behind doing "good works" in order to satisfy their own ego. I'm not saying it's wrong what they are doing I just question peoples motives.

I just noticed what you wrote in brackets about doing work for personal gratification. Again I ask you how do you know they are not going door to door for personal gratification? Just because it is in the name of religion, don't be fooled into believing people do it for love. Maybe they do. The question still stands though.

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You raise two good questions in your reply. Commissioned by man. With the exception of those born and raised up in this religion, the members who made the choice to join this group did so out of personal gratification, in my opinion. No Jehovah told them a certain amount of field service hours are needed to glorify Jehovah God. A certain number of hours of field service will get more members into the Kingdom Halls all around the world. It's religion, it's rude, and ego-driven.
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Reply #46 posted 11/05/11 6:24am

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NeonCraxx said:

NouveauDance said:

It is rude.

It REALLY isn't, though.

One must be a real sensitive individual to call that rude.

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if i have questions about jesus, guess what? ill go to them, not the other way around. also i dont care what people are coming to my house bothering me about, 9 times out of 10 its going to be annoying and rude. especially if theyve come to preach to me.

Bogey and Bacall, peanut butter and jelly, Wall being on fucking point, is "classic" dipshit. An iphone is top shelf technology. Get it straight. This thing is 4g. -Wall the great
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Reply #47 posted 11/05/11 6:29am

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uuhson said:

NeonCraxx said:

It REALLY isn't, though.

One must be a real sensitive individual to call that rude.

[Edited 11/5/11 5:31am]


if i have questions about jesus, guess what? ill go to them, not the other way around. also i dont care what people are coming to my house bothering me about, 9 times out of 10 its going to be annoying and rude. especially if theyve come to preach to me.

Then don't open the door in the first place.

Personally, I don't find it rude. MY opinion.

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Reply #48 posted 11/05/11 6:39am

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are you religious? not to attack you or anything, im just curious

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Reply #49 posted 11/05/11 7:25am

Whatsinit4me

My mother asked me to help take out some boxes of strawberries that she bought 4 me about 15mins ago,

in her car I found a Watchtower mag. eek

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Reply #50 posted 11/05/11 7:54am

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uuhson said:

are you religious? not to attack you or anything, im just curious

I believe in God and Jesus.

I don't get that much into religion.

I'm just sick of the harshness towards JW.

They're not horrible people as people claim they are.

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Reply #51 posted 11/05/11 8:07am

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NeonCraxx said:

uuhson said:

are you religious? not to attack you or anything, im just curious

I believe in God and Jesus.

I don't get that much into religion.

I'm just sick of the harshness towards JW.

They're not horrible people as people claim they are.

i wasnt claiming they were horrible people. like i said, it doesnt matter whos coming to my door to preach about anything. its annoying and unnecessary

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Reply #52 posted 11/05/11 8:37am

Whatsinit4me

After I helped my mother, she said, "I'll be back I have to mail a letter."

When she came back, she said, "The people are outside about 2 doors down."

I look out the window and then I thought about this thread.

I put my jacket on and opened the door, waiting 4 them.

When the 2 men came up my stairs, I opened the door.

The man who was a white senior looked like he was afraid of me.

The mexican guy was smiling at me.

They handed me 2 mags, I took them and asked how was everybody.

I told the white man, "Hi, do you remember me?"

He said, "Yes."

We talked for about 30sec.

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Reply #53 posted 11/05/11 10:53am

Javi

NeonCraxx said:

Javi said:

THEY don't have the right to go to my house to disturb me. It seems that even at home you cannot be still and peaceful.

Then don't open the door in the first place. If you're going to open the door just to disrespectfully slam it in their face for doing what they believe is right in their religion, I believe that's wrong.

I don't open the door. I just find it disturbing to interrupt what I am doing at the moment and have to go to see who's knocking at my door. That's my private space. Exactly the same as when a telephone company's worker calls me on the phone to try to to sell me its product.

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Reply #54 posted 11/05/11 11:29am

bobbyperu

^That's exactly how I feel! I see no difference between them and the JWs. (what if a JW gets the idea of starting a call center?) Anyway I just politely tell all of them no, thanx and close the door or hang up the phone. No slamming!
Anyway, I started this to find out if Prince being a JW has changed anybody's mind about them and the answer seems to be no. And that's no surprise.
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