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Vanity fair : prince fight with warner the inside story http://www.vanityfair.com...bio-201110
A Prince by Any Other NameThe tail end of 1993 marked a crisis point for Prince and Warner Bros., the company that had made him a star: several months after the artist unveiled his unpronounceable new name
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We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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I didn't know. Thanks for the post. | |
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That was Mayte, he had filmed in Egypt.
I think the text is a bit confused as to when things happened. It would have been better to keep things chronologically. | |
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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So far it's not really the inside look that was promised. Just telling a well-known story all over again. But we'll see when the book comes out. | |
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That really was a chaotic period. | |
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Welcome back.
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When I read that part about it making him physically ill, I could only think, "No wonder he looked like shit." We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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So glad to see Ronin Ro doing this. He offered an incredible glimpse into Suge Knight when he wrote a book about Death Row Records. Can't wait to buy a copy | |
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wrong it was carmen electra check out the video trailer for her lp
perhaps you should check your confusion? | |
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I have this book for a couple of months now, very nice to read, but nothing new or spectacular we didn't already know
I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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It certainly was.That's one era that I don't really like to revisit ("the slave years"). | |
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They spent over $2 million promoting the Carmen Elektra album | |
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i agree it was chaotic but mostly due to prince's nonsense, crappy business sense and him acting like a child. he made most of the mess his was in, all by himself. i don't really like to revist those years either but mostly bcos of the bad hair and worse music... although the symbol cd isn't as bad as people have said it was, imo. more of a sleeper cd. Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND | |
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Ridiculous. Leave the kooky side projects alone please. | |
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Prince is notorious for kooky side projects, notoriously overspending and not paying his bills.
But really, he is not an idiot.
In fact, he may even have been so shrewd to have authorised that much outrageous spending in those years, mainly to speeden up the termination of his contract with Warner.
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It's a really big error and I'm surprised no one caught it... he acted as if Prince was only going to share the song The Undertaker when it was, in fact, an entire album of guitar-driven jams. | |
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Yeah I read it in that sense too. He's not dumb at all. You gotta be shrewd to do what he was doing then. Though I don't particularly agree with the way he DID it lol | |
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What is widely regarded as the best book around? One that covers the same or similar to what's in DMSR, but brings us up to the present day...
I have got my eye on Prince: Life and Times... Although I gather it's more style than substance?! | |
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DSMR is the best book out there.
The only book that I want to read is the one that Prince writes. It's known that Prince is bad with business and worst with friends. I don't need to hear that again to know it's true. I want to hear Prince's defense. | |
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The only way you'll get it if he actually allows anyone to write it because it ain't coming out. | |
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"his new song, “Pink Cashmere,” his late-80s ballad “Power Fantastic,”"
Pink Cashmere was from 1988 (hardly "new") and Power Fantastic was from 1986 (hardly "late-80's").
These factual approximations say a lot about the book itself, I guess. [Edited 10/21/11 21:47pm] A COMPREHENSIVE PRINCE DISCOGRAPHY (work in progress ^^): https://sites.google.com/...scography/ | |
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Why do some music biographers always manage to fuck up the dates of when a certain song came out?! | |
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He pimped the hell out of WB good
Then again he gave them Purple Rain "Climb in my fur." | |
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I have zero interest in this book. "Bring friends, bring your children and bring foot spray 'cause it's gon' be funky." ~ Prince
A kiss on the lips, is betta than a knife in the back ~ Sheila E Darkness isn't the absence of light, it's the absence of U ~ Prince | |
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rap said: What is widely regarded as the best book around? One that covers the same or similar to what's in DMSR, but brings us up to the present day...
I have got my eye on Prince: Life and Times... Although I gather it's more style than substance?! That's why I stopped buying Prince books. I just see 'em in a bookstore and quickly go thru the last chapters so see what they write about the later years. The rest is old news. I don't have DMSR but I was an Uptown member for years. I like Liz Jones' Slave to the Rhythm because she puts P in a broader perspective by not just interviewing old band members but other musicians and critics as well. | |
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Yeah, his methods left a lot to desire. Style especially I feel.
However, I can still understand why Prince did the things he did (the name change, "prince is dead", the slave thing, the alternative ways to get his music out, the notorious overspending, the public blackballing of wb, the petitions, giving wb more and more mediocre music to release etc.).
If he hadn't done that. If he hadn't been such a "bad boy", but if Prince had played nice and did all they expected him to do, he would have probably been under contract with WB for 10 more years. Releasing a new album only every two years or so, with every new album another failed attempt of following the commercial trends, instead of setting them himself. Possibly even longer than 10 years, depending on the options to continue the contracts.
In the meantime he WOULD have gotten a LOT of money in advances from them, but the recorded music would not be his intellectual property, nor would his name and likeness. He would have to do what WB would would want him to do and thus that also means: promote the hell out of your shit, go on every stupid TV show we want you too and do no more (kooky) side projects, nor find any other (new or alternative) ways to get your music out. In other words: Be a very rich "slave". As in slave to WB, but also to the money and fame.
It's clear Prince saw this and that it didn't make him happy, at all. Prince has always been a freedom fighter, but paradoxically, at the same time also an enormous control freak, especially when it comes to his music and money. Thus he always had discussions and problems with WB already about what he could and could not release (CB), who owned what, who (got) paid for this etc.
Now, if an artist wants to get out of a recording and music publishing contract, plus in Prince's case also a sort of a joint venture agreement concerning the Paisley park label, that can be extremely difficult, but there are several ways to do it.
You could come to a termination agreement with your record company/publisher, but in Prince's case that was obviously not an option for WB, not at first at least. He was much too big of a cash cow for them, to let him go just like that.
Then second, you could go to court over it, but you would need a case to be able to win. It was doubtfull Prince would have a case regarding the contract. Moreover, the more he did WB wrong, the less chance of succes in court. Risky option.
Third and last option is: make sure your record company doesn't want you anymore and lets you go. In other words: if needed, commit carreer suicide. And that's exactly what Prince ultimately did. Hence the slave thing, the notorious overspending, the public blackballing of wb, the petitions, giving wb more and more mediocre music to release, "prince is dead" and the "re-birth" as
And what do you know...? They let him go.
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I don't know if anybody ever really notices it, but Prince's music from those days contains a lot of ambiguous lyrics, suggesting a double meaning towards WB.
Like Dolphin or Let it go, or I Hate you (the ext. version of it even has some very explicited lyrics regarding WB) Or the dark and suggestive artwork on Come, C&D and O4S | |
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