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Thread started 02/14/03 3:28am

CalhounSq

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the song "High"

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Do people like this song? I hear a lot about the High project/album being scrapped & folks being upset that it wasn't released, but I'm wondering how people feel about the song itself.

I like the music, it has good energy. BUT the lyrics are problematic IMO. It sounds like a plea - "like me again!" I know artists have to have some level of "I'm the best" shit happening, people like that & it sells records. I can't listen to this song w/o cringing just a little (then again, I can't stand to hear him say his own name neutral I'm odd like that). But it smacks of desperation, and the Prince I know is NOT desperate... is he? :O Hell no, 2 COOL 4 THAT!! We already high, don't he know that?? confused

Anyway, thoughts... opinions... ramblings... do yo thang...
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Reply #1 posted 02/14/03 3:31am

LaVisHh

Nah, lol...he's just reminding us. mr.green
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Reply #2 posted 02/14/03 3:34am

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I agree.

The synth and guitar lines are good, but the song as a whole is a little week. (Maybe good as a B-side).

I think a more energetic song is the:

"Don't need no refer, Don't need cocaine...Im High, So High"

track (the title of which escapes me at the moment - can ya help a brutha out?)
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Reply #3 posted 02/14/03 3:35am

mrdespues

This is one of the Prince songs where I was truly shocked that the man is musically capable of just about ANYTHING.

Unfortunately in this case, it means Britney-esque bollocks.


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Reply #4 posted 02/14/03 3:42am

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dnaplaya said:

I think a more energetic song is the:

"Don't need no refer, Don't need cocaine...Im High, So High"

track (the title of which escapes me at the moment - can ya help a brutha out?)


Purple Music smile great song nod I don't even notice that thing is 10 or 11 minutes!
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Reply #5 posted 02/14/03 3:54am

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I like some of the High tracks, but the song itself is a complete yawn-fest.

Prince does tacky R&B-pop.

I'm glad he seems to be over that phase, the Emancipation-Rave period was puke-inducing, I thought he'd lost it forever.
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Reply #6 posted 02/14/03 4:12am

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Okay song, but nothing special.

Would've LOVED P to release the 'High' album but I suspect the critics would've dubbed it as just another plastic project. It's certainly better than 'New Power Soul', IMO.

At last year's Celebration, Femi Jiya held several discussion groups and someone asked him which track, out of all the ones he'd engineered, he re-work. It was 'High' that he actually mentioned. Femi claimed it was a bit of a rush-job and that he thought it needed to be re-mixed.
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/03 4:14am

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onenitealone said:

Femi claimed it was a bit of a rush-job and that he thought it needed to be re-mixed.


Re-mixed or re-written?? evillol



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Reply #8 posted 02/14/03 4:24am

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Calhoun! smile

'Golden Parachute' - one of THE lost masterpieces from this period. Tsk tsk, Princey - release it!

(Now THAT'S the sort of album I want from Prince - a real, trippy, chilled album, with tracks like 'Golden Parachute', 'Beautiful Strange' and 'Joy In Repetition'. Mmmm...).
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Reply #9 posted 02/14/03 4:34am

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mrdespues said:

Unfortunately in this case, it means Britney-esque bollocks.


If Britney had been thinner and more Puero Rican he would have written the song for her.

"I'm a slave 4 U..."
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Reply #10 posted 02/14/03 4:51am

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onenitealone said:

Calhoun! smile

'Golden Parachute' - one of THE lost masterpieces from this period. Tsk tsk, Princey - release it!

(Now THAT'S the sort of album I want from Prince - a real, trippy, chilled album, with tracks like 'Golden Parachute', 'Beautiful Strange' and 'Joy In Repetition'. Mmmm...).


You've got me dripping all over the place! smile
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Reply #11 posted 02/14/03 5:10am

mrdespues

gooeythehamster said:

mrdespues said:

Unfortunately in this case, it means Britney-esque bollocks.


If Britney had been thinner and more Puero Rican he would have written the song for her.

"I'm a slave 4 U..."


Yeah, it's that kind of "made for choreography" bubblegummish drivel.
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Reply #12 posted 02/14/03 5:28am

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It's a cool tune, to me he sings things like I'm back...
"Goodness will guide us when love is inside of us... The Force will be with you, always"
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Reply #13 posted 02/14/03 5:33am

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CalhounSq said:

onenitealone said:

Femi claimed it was a bit of a rush-job and that he thought it needed to be re-mixed.


Re-mixed or re-written?? evillol



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i'm opting for both...

i thought the song was terrible... it was one of the 2 worst songs that we got from npmc01, the other being "my medallion"...

hey fellas, you ever have one them girls that just bad
know what I mean?
no, I ain't talkin' about fine, i'm talkin' about bad
cuss all the time, steal..,man she rob her own moms
down at the post office got two pictures
i'm talkin' about one of bebe's kids, y'all - bad!
Hear me?
oh, she fine too...


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Reply #14 posted 02/14/03 5:48am

mzflash

headbang i think that there is some fun energy to this song. it was one of the last 'new' songs Prince played at Paisley Park before he left. We had alot of fun dancing to this tune. i'd take it any day over the stone cold silence coming out of the Park these dayz.
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Reply #15 posted 02/14/03 6:03am

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It's an OK song, but probably my least favorite out of all the 'High' tracks.

I much prefered the spikey clipped funk of 'Sex Me, Sex Me Not' and 'My Medallion'.
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Reply #16 posted 02/14/03 6:53am

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Ive got this one, whats the known track list so I can see if I got the others?
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Reply #17 posted 02/14/03 8:40am

FutureShock

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Ive got this one, whats the known track list so I can see if I got the others?


There are a lot of variations to the suppossed "High" track list. If you do a search of Prince.org, you'll find the most well known. I would say about 95 percent of the songs are all the same no matter who's tracklist you find, it's just the sequence of the songs that seem to change.

If High was going to be released as an official album but then got scrapped, members of the NPGMC year 2 (or whichever year was the download year with the NPGMC Ahdios) still received all of the songs from "High" via download. So if you have all the downloads, then you pretty much already have the "High" project.
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Reply #18 posted 02/14/03 8:51am

IAM

musically and lyrically both my medallion and high just didn't reach peak. good starts though... maybe off topic but i'm just so glad that those sucky sorry ass kirk j. beats are long gone. what the hell was he thinking?!
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Reply #19 posted 02/14/03 9:52am

chickengrease

Another song that would have been kick ass and easy to ignore the mediocre lyrics if he would have used a live band. "Prince gon' get you HIGH - IGH - IGHHH!!!"
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Reply #20 posted 02/14/03 10:26am

NuPwrSoul

Just like a lot of "Emancipation" echoed R. Kelly's production style which was one of the reigning sounds of R&B for 95-96, "High" sounds like an attempt at gaining mainstream play, this time by responding to the Missy Elliott-Timberland style stacatto percussion beats and futuristic synth sounds. "Sex Me, Sex Me Not" uses the same production style; as does "Judas Smile/Kiss" (although it is unclear whether that particular track was intended for "High").

Without promotion by a major label (and that's unlikely given P's relationship to the industry), major rotation on MTV/BET & radio, and appearances by P himself (which he has demonstrated an unwillingness to do over an extended period of time these days), "High" would have gone the way of "Rave" or worse.

In the end, I'm glad Prince withdrew it and focused on more organic sounds. It's one of the smartest decisions--artistically, critically, and commercially--that he's made in the last few years.
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Reply #21 posted 02/14/03 10:49am

IstenSzek

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I like this one least of all the supposed "High" tracks.
Strange "album", that "High" album. Half of the songs
are very very good and hint toward a healthier sound and
the other half is pretty much horrible.

"High" itself being the worst of the bunch, it sounds like
a jingle at best.

If he wants real deep dish noises and strange ethereal
cosmic bleeps on his albums he should just write a good
song and let someone like Orbital, Eat Static or Photek,
Leftfield or god knows who remix it.

Imagine what Autechre could do with "Strange but True".
Even if they left the verses and the chorus in tact and
just changed the overall soundscape, you still would
not be able to recognise it. It would kick some serious
ass.
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Reply #22 posted 02/14/03 11:08am

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s'alright, but p singin "get yo swerve on" makes me cringe.

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Reply #23 posted 02/15/03 2:11am

CalhounSq

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onenitealone said:

Calhoun! smile

'Golden Parachute' - one of THE lost masterpieces from this period. Tsk tsk, Princey - release it!

(Now THAT'S the sort of album I want from Prince - a real, trippy, chilled album, with tracks like 'Golden Parachute', 'Beautiful Strange' and 'Joy In Repetition'. Mmmm...).


Sounds good smile
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Reply #24 posted 02/15/03 8:11am

XXcepshunal

eye have a 'High, Purple Music Remix boot' so eye have never known there was a boring version of this song.

Prince gone get me High?

yes he did! eye lit em up and took a hit...now eye'm High, so High!
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Reply #25 posted 02/15/03 8:21am

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This song is a cutesy pie piece of shit. Why record a commercial jingle, then only release the song on a stupid music club that noone in mass will hear? Prince could have used the club to unload great experiments like, In My Dreams, but does this shit. Hell, R Kelly and Usher seem like geniuses compared to this. People would laugh at this track on the radio and say, "this is the guy who wrote When Doves Cry? Pitifull". I hide my head when a song like this surfaces. Prince should have killed the damn song and put it out of its misery. Prince must be high thinking anyone with ears on the side of their beak would like this.

barf finger Prince.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #26 posted 02/15/03 12:40pm

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To me it's no worse than the self-conscious drivel that is "My Name Is Prince"...better when taking the music into account alone. Red alert self-consciousness doesn't make for great lyrics.
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Reply #27 posted 02/15/03 6:54pm

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XXcepshunal said:

eye have a 'High, Purple Music Remix boot' so eye have never known there was a boring version of this song.


Can you describe it? What does it sound like? I've never heard it... smile
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Reply #28 posted 02/15/03 6:56pm

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Supernova said:

To me it's no worse than the self-conscious drivel that is "My Name Is Prince"...better when taking the music into account alone. Red alert self-consciousness doesn't make for great lyrics.


Maybe it was the time in which My Name is Prince came out or something, but it seems like a more effective song than High. The lyrics (to My Name is Prince) are less "please, like me!" & more "I can STILL kick yo ass, you know!" Maybe it's all in my head smile





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[This message was edited Sat Feb 15 18:57:08 PST 2003 by CalhounSq]
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Reply #29 posted 02/15/03 7:14pm

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CalhounSq said:

Supernova said:

To me it's no worse than the self-conscious drivel that is "My Name Is Prince"...better when taking the music into account alone. Red alert self-consciousness doesn't make for great lyrics.


Maybe it was the time in which My Name is Prince came out or something, but it seems like a more effective song than High. The lyrics (to My Name is Prince) are less "please, like me!" & more "I can STILL kick yo ass, you know!" Maybe it's all in my head smile





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[This message was edited Sat Feb 15 18:57:08 PST 2003 by CalhounSq]

For me, it's like this: if you have to declare yourself FUNKY, you're probably not.

But we know that's not true about him. This is why I feel he was being too self-conscious. It was during a time when people were questioning Prince's Funk prowess.

Same thing with being hip; if you have to declare you're hip, that in itself is the epitome of being unhip.

Hipness is
What it is
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