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Reply #60 posted 10/19/11 8:53am

RodeoSchro

Chiquetet said:

RodeoSchro said:

falloff x 5,432,095

If there's anyone who is NOT Bria, it's Timmy. LOL.

Also, I'm not Bria. Or Prince, for that matter.

...but NewYorkMike is Bria (check his pic and sig).

And he (sorry, she (sorry - oops, stuck in a loop)) obviously thinks that "More Bria" is the answer to Timmy's question, "why would anyone be interested?"

Totally understand the Bria-accusation-paranoia around here though wink

Oh.

In that case, hi Bria!

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Reply #61 posted 10/19/11 9:03am

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databank said:

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hmmm I get the feeling that Prince is just bored.Maybe he's now trying to conquer a different market (the dance music market)?

Most of his tentatives at recording "dance music" (i.e. house & techno) were deep failures, weither he did it himself of asked remixers to help, so I'm not too excited about this. Prince, for some reason, never managed to catch what made house & techno music great, and often only managed to get the most corny aspects of it (Go-Go Dancer, Fantasia Erotica, the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic remix, 1999 The New Master, Take Me 2 Your Leader, the loads of awful Junior Vasquez and Keith Cohen remixes from 1991-92, the Dance 4 Me remix from 2009, etc.). There are a few exceptions, though, such as "The Human Body" and the Jason Nevins mix of "TGRES", but well... I wouldn't bet a dime on these future remixes...

There was a remix I think of The Future that was pretty decent too, but I agree, most of these attempts have been extremely corny sounding.

Change it one more time..
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Reply #62 posted 10/19/11 9:13am

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databank said:

If we're to believe Michael Koppleman, this would be Kate Bush on the day she heard Prince's "dance" mix of "Why Should I Love You?" for the first time lol lol lol

Hehehe, indeed. According to The Life & Music Of Kate Bush it took her a loong time to work out what to do with it and how to rescue the track.

However, it was not a "dance" mix, just a collaboration.

I wonder why she didn't release the original version/demo (or even Prince's full-on track) on her recent re-releases. No doubt, they would be interesting to hear after all this time, so we can see what was done to the track wink

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Reply #63 posted 10/19/11 9:46am

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he's too old and lost the funk a long time ago. Seriously who'd dance to Prince's grooves over the last 10 years on a dance floor. Remixes used to be incredible then he went all dub and house and shit!.

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Reply #64 posted 10/19/11 10:32am

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erik319 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Hehehe, indeed. According to The Life & Music Of Kate Bush it took her a loong time to work out what to do with it and how to rescue the track.

However, it was not a "dance" mix, just a collaboration.

I wonder why she didn't release the original version/demo (or even Prince's full-on track) on her recent re-releases. No doubt, they would be interesting to hear after all this time, so we can see what was done to the track wink

Yes, from all that I have read about it, it would be great to hear.

From what I can gather it was a bit of an overdub fest.

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Reply #65 posted 10/19/11 1:44pm

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At least you're getting something. It's really better than nothing.

Of course you haven't listened to it yet. Ungreatful people...

I wonder if we get it for free if we were suckered into that whole $77 for a t-shirt and a download/handjob deal. Founding member my foot.

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Reply #66 posted 10/19/11 1:47pm

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funkyhead said:

he's too old and lost the funk a long time ago. Seriously who'd dance to Prince's grooves over the last 10 years on a dance floor. Remixes used to be incredible then he went all dub and house and shit!.

He's been doing house remixes since the batman era if not earlier. You're acting like this is new.

And I love house music, so I'm not complaining.

jeidee said:

I wonder if we get it for free if we were suckered into that whole $77 for a t-shirt and a download/handjob deal. Founding member my foot.

rolleyes

The majority of you orgers with jobs act like you can't make up $77 with 2-3 weeks of work.

Get over it. It was 2009, two years ago.

MY foot.

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Reply #67 posted 10/19/11 1:51pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Chiquetet said:

...but NewYorkMike is Bria (check his pic and sig).

And he (sorry, she (sorry - oops, stuck in a loop)) obviously thinks that "More Bria" is the answer to Timmy's question, "why would anyone be interested?"

Totally understand the Bria-accusation-paranoia around here though wink

Oh.

In that case, hi Bria!

wave

Chiquetet knows what's up, and what's down (my downstairs mixup) that is. heart

NewYorkMike = Bria Valente

The Org is trying to censor me.

Beyonce ain't got shit on me.
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Reply #68 posted 10/19/11 2:01pm

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This would be Great news, except I dont like club/house music @ all, think its garbage, & i wont event use the boxed emoticon, because i aint ashamed 2 say it.

But atleast there is something going on w/Prince and he seems 2 be moving foward now wink

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Reply #69 posted 10/20/11 4:25am

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erik319 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Hehehe, indeed. According to The Life & Music Of Kate Bush it took her a loong time to work out what to do with it and how to rescue the track.

However, it was not a "dance" mix, just a collaboration.

I wonder why she didn't release the original version/demo (or even Prince's full-on track) on her recent re-releases. No doubt, they would be interesting to hear after all this time, so we can see what was done to the track wink

U can hear the original (pre-Prince) version on Youtube.

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Reply #70 posted 10/20/11 4:59am

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databank said:

erik319 said:

I wonder why she didn't release the original version/demo (or even Prince's full-on track) on her recent re-releases. No doubt, they would be interesting to hear after all this time, so we can see what was done to the track wink

U can hear the original (pre-Prince) version on Youtube.

eek

Just found it. thanks for the heads up. Really interesting stuff smile

Edit to add. So, let me get this straight, this demo was sent to Prince, he pissed all over it, Michael Koppelman attemtped to reign it in a bit to make it a bit more palletable for kate...

So where does Lenny Henry fit in? Surely he was added by Kate? So did she then add extra bits after, send Lenny's contribution to Koppelman..?

This sort of thing interests me a milliion times more than the 'let's post pictures of Prince's eyelashes' threads found on here smile

[Edited 10/20/11 5:07am]

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Reply #71 posted 10/20/11 5:16am

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erik319 said:

databank said:

U can hear the original (pre-Prince) version on Youtube.

eek

Just found it. thanks for the heads up. Really interesting stuff smile

Edit to add. So, let me get this straight, this demo was sent to Prince, he pissed all over it, Michael Koppelman attemtped to reign it in a bit to make it a bit more palletable for kate...

So where does Lenny Henry fit in? Surely he was added by Kate? So did she then add extra bits after, send Lenny's contribution to Koppelman..?

This sort of thing interests me a milliion times more than the 'let's post pictures of Prince's eyelashes' threads found on here smile

[Edited 10/20/11 5:07am]

So how much of Prince is on the finished version, i didn't realise ther was a pre Prince version, i assumed he did it, she didn't like it and did another version.

cool

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Reply #72 posted 10/20/11 5:29am

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bigd74 said:

erik319 said:

eek

Just found it. thanks for the heads up. Really interesting stuff smile

Edit to add. So, let me get this straight, this demo was sent to Prince, he pissed all over it, Michael Koppelman attemtped to reign it in a bit to make it a bit more palletable for kate...

So where does Lenny Henry fit in? Surely he was added by Kate? So did she then add extra bits after, send Lenny's contribution to Koppelman..?

This sort of thing interests me a milliion times more than the 'let's post pictures of Prince's eyelashes' threads found on here smile

[Edited 10/20/11 5:07am]

So how much of Prince is on the finished version, i didn't realise ther was a pre Prince version, i assumed he did it, she didn't like it and did another version.

cool

Tons, he's all over it. He dominates the chorus vocally, changes the flow of it, adds a beat and adds lots of 'Gold Experience' sounding instrumentation & solo's. I like the version as it was released, I now like the Demo too. I'l reserve judgement on Prince's unreleased mix of it until it leaks (if ever, not holding my breath!)

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Reply #73 posted 10/20/11 5:45am

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erik319 said:

bigd74 said:

So how much of Prince is on the finished version, i didn't realise ther was a pre Prince version, i assumed he did it, she didn't like it and did another version.

cool

Tons, he's all over it. He dominates the chorus vocally, changes the flow of it, adds a beat and adds lots of 'Gold Experience' sounding instrumentation & solo's. I like the version as it was released, I now like the Demo too. I'l reserve judgement on Prince's unreleased mix of it until it leaks (if ever, not holding my breath!)

Nice. cool will check out the other version later.

Thanx

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Reply #74 posted 10/20/11 6:46am

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Tweet Doc !!

"Prince fans, aside from "dance 4 me" being re-released w/new mixes, he is recording now so new music will be here sooner than we think."

Ps> there is Hope....hope... my Friends!!

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Reply #75 posted 10/20/11 6:50am

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Riverman37 said:

Dance remixes? using a 3 years old song as a new single? How creative.... NOT

I hope this remains unsubstantiated gossip.

mong

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Reply #76 posted 10/20/11 6:54am

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love2thenines2003 said:

Tweet Doc !!

"Prince fans, aside from "dance 4 me" being re-released w/new mixes, he is recording now so new music will be here sooner than we think."

Ps> there is Hope....hope... my Friends!!

cool cool cool cool

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Reply #77 posted 10/20/11 10:50am

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erik319 said:

databank said:

U can hear the original (pre-Prince) version on Youtube.

eek

Just found it. thanks for the heads up. Really interesting stuff smile

Edit to add. So, let me get this straight, this demo was sent to Prince, he pissed all over it, Michael Koppelman attemtped to reign it in a bit to make it a bit more palletable for kate...

So where does Lenny Henry fit in? Surely he was added by Kate? So did she then add extra bits after, send Lenny's contribution to Koppelman..?

This sort of thing interests me a milliion times more than the 'let's post pictures of Prince's eyelashes' threads found on here smile

[Edited 10/20/11 5:07am]

This is from Under The Ivy: The Life & Music Of Kate Bush..

...they (kate & Prince) had communicated with an eye on a collaboration, and in 1991 Bush sent him the multi track tape of "Why Should I Love You?" In the words of Del Palmer (Kates partner in the studio for this album), it returned "from Paisley Park studio covered in vocals, guitar solos and keyboards." Prince's engineer Michael Koppelman was less diplomatic, calling his contribution "lame disco."

It tool Bush and Palmer a further two years to negotiate his maze of overdubs and retain some sense of the original track, eventually retaining only lead guitar, synths and chorus vocals. If it had been anyone other than Prince, you suspect that Bush would have ditched his contributions entirely.

So after it was sent to Bush, the track was out of Koppelmans hands, and indeed he is not credited on the album in any way.

This also from Kate Bush The Biography...

"He (Prince) had looped a four bar section from the chorus of the song that Kate had written, and just smothered 48 tracks with everything you could possibly imagine," recalled Palmer. I sat there and thought "well this is great, but what are we going to do with it?"

And regarding Lenny Henry's contribution..

One part that hadn't been done by Prince, and that Bush had asked him to do, was recorded at the last moment by Lenny Henry. "It was like he'd worked in the studio his whole life" said Palmer of the comedian. Kate sang him the part she wanted him to do and then he sang it.

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Reply #78 posted 10/20/11 3:40pm

erik319

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TheDigitalGardener said:



erik319 said:




databank said:



U can hear the original (pre-Prince) version on Youtube.



eek



Just found it. thanks for the heads up. Really interesting stuff smile




Edit to add. So, let me get this straight, this demo was sent to Prince, he pissed all over it, Michael Koppelman attemtped to reign it in a bit to make it a bit more palletable for kate...



So where does Lenny Henry fit in? Surely he was added by Kate? So did she then add extra bits after, send Lenny's contribution to Koppelman..?



This sort of thing interests me a milliion times more than the 'let's post pictures of Prince's eyelashes' threads found on here smile


[Edited 10/20/11 5:07am]




This is from Under The Ivy: The Life & Music Of Kate Bush..


...they (kate & Prince) had communicated with an eye on a collaboration, and in 1991 Bush sent him the multi track tape of "Why Should I Love You?" In the words of Del Palmer (Kates partner in the studio for this album), it returned "from Paisley Park studio covered in vocals, guitar solos and keyboards." Prince's engineer Michael Koppelman was less diplomatic, calling his contribution "lame disco."


It tool Bush and Palmer a further two years to negotiate his maze of overdubs and retain some sense of the original track, eventually retaining only lead guitar, synths and chorus vocals. If it had been anyone other than Prince, you suspect that Bush would have ditched his contributions entirely.



So after it was sent to Bush, the track was out of Koppelmans hands, and indeed he is not credited on the album in any way.



This also from Kate Bush The Biography...


"He (Prince) had looped a four bar section from the chorus of the song that Kate had written, and just smothered 48 tracks with everything you could possibly imagine," recalled Palmer. I sat there and thought "well this is great, but what are we going to do with it?"



And regarding Lenny Henry's contribution..


One part that hadn't been done by Prince, and that Bush had asked him to do, was recorded at the last moment by Lenny Henry. "It was like he'd worked in the studio his whole life" said Palmer of the comedian. Kate sang him the part she wanted him to do and then he sang it.


[Edited 10/20/11 10:52am]



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Reply #79 posted 10/20/11 3:53pm

DMSRCMC12

He should have sign with "Sabotage Records" they sell more than any1 else!razz razz razz razz

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