x a thousand.

The recording sessions for this protege-of-the-moment project will be forgotten about by Prince before &Y runs out of KY.

mzsadii said:

I wouldn't call Andy a protege" She can hold her own and has been long before Prince. Just wait to judge.

Well if she can hold her own then she should because riding the Prince train is going to lead her to a dead end if she 's not careful.

squirrelgrease said:

The recording sessions for this protege-of-the-moment project will be forgotten about by Prince before &Y runs out of KY.

http://prince.org/msg/7/364691

[Edited 10/12/11 0:00am]

squirrelgrease said:

The recording sessions for this protege-of-the-moment project will be forgotten about by Prince before &Y runs out of KY.

Exactly, the &= nigh.

RodeoSchro said:

Shouldn't it be "&E"?

Why? Her name is Andy, not Ande. If it has to be done, &y makes sense to me.

Either way it's dumb though.

I just had an awful thought - maybe the 'album' (*cough, cough*) will be like Xpectation, you know all the tracks started with X, what if all the &Y tracks start with &

squirrelgrease said:

The recording sessions for this protege-of-the-moment project will be forgotten about by Prince before &Y runs out of KY.

Andy ( I refuse to do the princebonics) , Tamar, Brian, Twinz, Chelsea, Ballerina woman, Tame.

His bedpost must have so many notches on it that it looks like he's got a termite infestation.

hope he's putting as much effort in2 his next tune as he's dreaming up cheesy sigs

Mabye the musicians on the org should produce a counteralbum, with Tame as a singer.

We can call it "Tame The Cunt - The Magnolia Sessions".

V10LETBLUES said:

Prenzz said:

Did you guys see this one also...?

"FingerPrince"?

http://www.trademarkia.co...67786.html

there are a bunch of dairty jokes in cartoons.

&Y

could also be "and why"

&Y

Hey! That is really dumb.

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

I was talking about the trademark info for FingerPrince in the link, NOT the (all be it funny) video. Apparently it is something to do with greeting cards and stuff... Does someone know the story behind it?

Prenzz said:

Did you guys see this one also...?

"FingerPrince"?

http://www.trademarkia.co...67786.html

OnlyNDaUsa said:

V10LETBLUES said:

there are a bunch of dairty jokes in cartoons.

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

Well, she's at least fresh in the sense that we've already seen her perform live.

Prenzz said:

I was talking about the trademark info for FingerPrince in the link, NOT the (all be it funny) video. Apparently it is something to do with greeting cards and stuff... Does someone know the story behind it?

Prenzz said:

Did you guys see this one also...?

"FingerPrince"?

http://www.trademarkia.co...67786.html

FINGERPRINCE

By: Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.

Greeting cards, notecards, postcards, stationery, stickers and posters

I really should've checked that link - I thought it was also to the vid - thanks for clarifying!!

The only thing I can think of is that someone had the bright idea to trademark this in order to stop anyone else from using it. It was abandoned in 2006 with no statement of use filed.

It sure would make for an interesting greeting card...

Chiquetet said:

Prenzz said:

I was talking about the trademark info for FingerPrince in the link, NOT the (all be it funny) video. Apparently it is something to do with greeting cards and stuff... Does someone know the story behind it?

Prenzz said:

Did you guys see this one also...?

"FingerPrince"?

http://www.trademarkia.co...67786.html

FINGERPRINCE

By: Paisley Park Enterprises, Inc.

Greeting cards, notecards, postcards, stationery, stickers and posters

I really should've checked that link - I thought it was also to the vid - thanks for clarifying!!

The only thing I can think of is that someone had the bright idea to trademark this in order to stop anyone else from using it. It was abandoned in 2006 with no statement of use filed.

It sure would make for an interesting greeting card...

Finger Prince?

Oh, Dan's gonna have a field day with this.

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

I was nonplussed with peoples liking of Miss Allo to begin with, but after I watched a couple of vids with her performing with Prince I changed my mind somewhat.

It would be nice to think of her as being able to break the cycle of Prince girlfriend/protege/whatever arm candy and be able to get on with her music career on her own terms. I have nothing against her making music with Prince, but the past tells me to be wary, and it should also tell the same thing to Andy Allo.

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

I thought about this also. My thoughts are that Prince's history with proteges has proven quite unsuccessful (as we all know). Yet Prince is following the exact same formula with Andy that he has followed with all of his female proteges. He wows them with his charm and the possibility of working with a legend, takes away their identity in some way (creating the &Y symbol for her), produces an album that will either never be released or never be properly promoted, then cuts them off to disassociate himself from the wreckage. The proteges are left to figure out the remainder of their career (if any) on their own, and we don't know one who was able to do that successfully (except for maybe Carmen Elektra).

The name change really troubles me with Andy. If she was an "established artist who could hold her own" as some on here like to tag her, she would have NEVER consented to him symbolizing her name. It just goes to show that she's still at a point in her career where someone else can mold her.

That said, while I think it is possible for this to be something fresh, given the pattern of behavior, I expect that this will be more of the same.

V10LETBLUES said:

All of Prince's female "proteges" are very pretty and all seem like very cool people. All of them. I have nothing but respect for each and every one of them.

But, geez, she has to wonder, "will my album be as good as Bria's? As good as Mayte's? As good as Carmen's"

I really like Mayte's album, I have always had a soft spot for it. But don't you think that Andy has a much better voice than the three you mention?

At least having a half decent singing voice is a very good start, something that Bria, Carmen et al never had (imo).

PurpleChi said:

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

The proteges are left to figure out the remainder of their career (if any) on their own, and we don't know one who was able to do that successfully (except for maybe Carmen Elektra).

Exactly.

Look at, for example, Tamar. She took an age to finally get an album released, and can anyone name a song from it?

TheDigitalGardener said:

PurpleChi said:

The proteges are left to figure out the remainder of their career (if any) on their own, and we don't know one who was able to do that successfully (except for maybe Carmen Elektra).

Exactly.

Look at, for example, Tamar. She took an age to finally get an album released, and can anyone name a song from it?

She has an album out? I knew she sang a song for some movie recently, but I was unaware about a full album. SMH

PurpleChi said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

Exactly.

Look at, for example, Tamar. She took an age to finally get an album released, and can anyone name a song from it?

She has an album out? I knew she sang a song for some movie recently, but I was unaware about a full album. SMH

It's called My Name Is Tamar.

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

I like her voice and she does seem to fit into the NPG, at least in terms of their energy, etc... on stage.

I know there's been a lot said about her guitar skills, which is probably mainly because most of us can't get our head around Prince having anyone on stage playing guitar with him who's not an absolute top shelf guitarist, but she definitely seems to have added something positive to the mix, even if that primarily is the mood she's put him in. It appears he laughs a lot when she's around, and that's got to be a good thing.

There are obvious comparisons that could be made between her and past proteges (or other talent Prince has showcased), but she no doubt possesses something unique to be shared.

If I try to look at the situation with fresh eyes - as if Prince didn't have the history he does, etc... - then I would be excited about this news. I'd want to hear what becomes the product of their apparent collaboration.

So I'm up for looking at this as something exciting and fresh and new, even if it did initially set off alarm bells, particularly since there's nothing much to be gained from being prematurely (and thus perhaps unnecessarily) disappointed.

For example, I'm not a big fan of Bria's work, but at the same time that was released, Lotusflow3r came out as well - so if working with Andy (sorry, &y) results in another CD of the calibre of that album, then all the better.

As for whether or not it's a good move on Andy's part, well, I guess that's her business. She knows what her objectives are in all of this and, if she's got any sense (which I believe she has), she will see the same pattern that others have mentioned. Prince is showing little signs of breaking said pattern, but who knows? Perhaps she'll be the one to break the mold instead.

Could be possible that the new album of Andy will be under one of Prince his record labels. And that he helps her a bit.

And it could be possible that Prince is recording an album for himself , to release. I really hope on a new album.

I think this is exciting. I really hope there is something new and fresh coming up. It could be a new album for Andy, or for Andy and himself, or completely something else.

&y=Andy???

Marie0124 said:

&y=Andy???

Yes

PurpleChi said:

NouveauDance said:

All joking aside. What do we think of Andy as a package compared to other recent-ish satellite acts?

Is she part of a trend, or a recycled idea? Something fresh?

I thought about this also. My thoughts are that Prince's history with proteges has proven quite unsuccessful (as we all know). Yet Prince is following the exact same formula with Andy that he has followed with all of his female proteges. He wows them with his charm and the possibility of working with a legend, takes away their identity in some way (creating the &Y symbol for her), produces an album that will either never be released or never be properly promoted, then cuts them off to disassociate himself from the wreckage. The proteges are left to figure out the remainder of their career (if any) on their own, and we don't know one who was able to do that successfully (except for maybe Carmen Elektra).

The name change really troubles me with Andy. If she was an "established artist who could hold her own" as some on here like to tag her, she would have NEVER consented to him symbolizing her name. It just goes to show that she's still at a point in her career where someone else can mold her.

That said, while I think it is possible for this to be something fresh, given the pattern of behavior, I expect that this will be more of the same.

This is a fair assessment I think.

AFAIK, we know nothing or almost nothing of what this project or music entails or sounds like, but I expect People Pleaser is a fair enough clue? I'm expecting an 'organic' sound and image - nothing too far removed from the funk/soul of 00's Prince, Musicology, Lotusflow3r etc.

What Prince always seems to do is hook into something one of these performers exhibits, and then injects himself into that to make the final product. All his acts have been like this, a germ of an idea, that is a then magnified as a reflection of Prince's own ideas and some fascination he has with this person or group. I don't think Andy will be any different.

It's frustrating though, how he gives up at the first hurdle. A burst of initial energy, with no follow through, then the person/project is banished from existance. Well, let's see what happens, I'm not writing it off before it even happens, just saying history repeats itself, and 99% of the time has done with Prince's productions.