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Thread started 09/24/11 3:06pm

TheFreakerFant
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1986: The year Prince created his best ever works...

Listening to outtakes as well as released songs, it seems that some of his best work was created in 1986.

We know the released stuff (SOTT plus Dream Factory project) but on top of this these outtakes are listed as being recorded then:

Adonis and Bathsheba

A Place In Heaven

Baby Go-Go

The Ball
Big Tall Wall

Can't Stop This Feeling I Got

Cosmic Day

Crucial

Crystal Ball
Data Bank#

Dream Factory

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Get On Up

Girl O' My Dreams
In A Large Room With No Light

It's A Wonderful Day
Rebirth Of The Flesh

Teacher, Teacher

Train
We Can Funk

Witness 4 The Prosecution
Wonderful Ass

I think this was Prince's peak year and I feel that the Dream Factory if released would have been an undisputed classic, much better than SOTT IMO.

You can just hear the raw energy and excitement on the songs from this period...

Shame he and W&L parted company before they could be released...



[Edited 9/24/11 15:30pm]

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Reply #1 posted 09/24/11 3:34pm

OldFriends4Sal
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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Listening to outtakes as well as released songs, it seems that some of his best work was created in 1986.

We know the released stuff (SOTT plus Dream Factory project) but on top of this these outtakes are listed as being recorded then:

Adonis and Bathsheba

A Place In Heaven

Baby Go-Go

The Ball
Big Tall Wall

Can't Stop This Feeling I Got

Cosmic Day

Crucial

Crystal Ball
Data Bank#

Dream Factory

Everybody Want What They Don't Got

Get On Up

Girl O' My Dreams
In A Large Room With No Light

It's A Wonderful Day
Rebirth Of The Flesh

Teacher, Teacher

Train
We Can Funk

Witness 4 The Prosecution
Wonderful Ass

I think this was Prince's peak year and I feel that the Dream Factory if released would have been an undisputed classic, much better than SOTT IMO.

You can just hear the raw energy and excitement on the songs from this period...

Shame he and W&L parted company before they could be released...

Power Fantastic(intro)

Power Fantastic

a lot of the Camille & Black album music

(2) versions of Witness 4 the Prosecution

Movie Star

Last Heart

Sexual Suicide

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Reply #2 posted 09/24/11 3:37pm

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^ Oh yes, i was mostly just putting the unreleased tracks as I know most of SOTT and CB was from that era too - but those tracks are killer too!!!

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Reply #3 posted 09/24/11 3:51pm

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It certainly was a highly productive period in his career, and one which I find myself returning to on a regular basis.

Looking back, it was amazing what was recorded and/or assembled (album wise) during that one year alone, whether they were released or not, it was such a prolific time for Prince.

The abandoned The Flesh album, Parade, Madhouse 8, The Dream Factory, Crystal Ball, work on Jill Jones' album, studio work with Sheila E for her 3rd album, the Camille album.

Not to mention Under The Cherry Moon, US gigs, a European tour, gigs in Japan and whatever else.

Breathtaking really.

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Reply #4 posted 09/24/11 3:56pm

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Joy in Repetition was done in '86 too. As were Shockadelica, Superfunkicalifragisexy, the first Madhouse album, Bob George, Le Grind, Violet Blue, Rock Hard In A Funky Place, Wouldn't You Love To Love Me, Wally....

a superb year, for sure.

There's also still more unreleased stuff from '86 that we've never heard, like the half-completed soundtrack to The Dawn (which included the songs "Coco Boyz" and "When The Dawn of The Morning Comes"). Other unreleased songs from '86 include "Egg Plant", "Twosday" and a track Prince produced for Tony LeMans called "C'Est La Vie".

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Reply #5 posted 09/24/11 4:41pm

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Without a doubt this is hands down the most creative and prolific peak of Prince's legend, closely followed by 82-84, and lastly 93-95.

However, that damn 1986-87 is mind blowing. We already know of plenty of songs from this era, yet think of the songs that we don't know about. One day they will hopefully all come out. I wouldn't care if some songs were terrible, just to hear where Prince was at at that time would make it worth the while.

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Reply #6 posted 09/24/11 5:27pm

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Militant said:

Joy in Repetition was done in '86 too. As were Shockadelica, Superfunkicalifragisexy, the first Madhouse album, Bob George, Le Grind, Violet Blue, Rock Hard In A Funky Place, Wouldn't You Love To Love Me, Wally....

a superb year, for sure.

There's also still more unreleased stuff from '86 that we've never heard, like the half-completed soundtrack to The Dawn (which included the songs "Coco Boyz" and "When The Dawn of The Morning Comes"). Other unreleased songs from '86 include "Egg Plant", "Twosday" and a track Prince produced for Tony LeMans called "C'Est La Vie".

As soon as I saw Org member JoyinRepetitions id I said oh another song from this era

Is Wouldn't U Love 2 Love me a different one from the 1976-1978 demos?

Another is Make Yo Momma Happy

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Reply #7 posted 09/24/11 5:38pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Militant said:

Joy in Repetition was done in '86 too. As were Shockadelica, Superfunkicalifragisexy, the first Madhouse album, Bob George, Le Grind, Violet Blue, Rock Hard In A Funky Place, Wouldn't You Love To Love Me, Wally....

a superb year, for sure.

There's also still more unreleased stuff from '86 that we've never heard, like the half-completed soundtrack to The Dawn (which included the songs "Coco Boyz" and "When The Dawn of The Morning Comes"). Other unreleased songs from '86 include "Egg Plant", "Twosday" and a track Prince produced for Tony LeMans called "C'Est La Vie".

As soon as I saw Org member JoyinRepetitions id I said oh another song from this era

Is Wouldn't U Love 2 Love me a different one from the 1976-1978 demos?

Another is Make Yo Momma Happy

Yup, it's the re-worked version that he offered to Michael Jackson for the "Bad" album. I like this version the best, although the circulating version is in terrible quality.

It's musically similar to the version that was eventually released by Taja Sevelle in '88, although with Prince singing it obviously.

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Reply #8 posted 09/24/11 7:04pm

Tremolina

Incredibly creative times.

Still I think his songs from 83-84 were stronger.

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Reply #9 posted 09/26/11 6:32pm

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I always though Wonderful Ass was from 1999

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Reply #10 posted 09/26/11 7:14pm

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aardvark15 said:

I always though Wonderful Ass was from 1999

The original version is. It was reworked in 86, however it retained most of the bare tracks.

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Reply #11 posted 09/26/11 7:30pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:



TheFreakerFantastic said:


Listening to outtakes as well as released songs, it seems that some of his best work was created in 1986.



We know the released stuff (SOTT plus Dream Factory project) but on top of this these outtakes are listed as being recorded then:





Adonis and Bathsheba


A Place In Heaven


Baby Go-Go


The Ball
Big Tall Wall


Can't Stop This Feeling I Got


Cosmic Day


Crucial


Crystal Ball
Data Bank#


Dream Factory


Everybody Want What They Don't Got


Get On Up


Girl O' My Dreams
In A Large Room With No Light


It's A Wonderful Day
Rebirth Of The Flesh


Teacher, Teacher


Train
We Can Funk


Witness 4 The Prosecution
Wonderful Ass



I think this was Prince's peak year and I feel that the Dream Factory if released would have been an undisputed classic, much better than SOTT IMO.


You can just hear the raw energy and excitement on the songs from this period...


Shame he and W&L parted company before they could be released...






Power Fantastic(intro)


Power Fantastic


a lot of the Camille & Black album music


(2) versions of Witness 4 the Prosecution


Movie Star


Last Heart


Sexual Suicide




I thought Sexual Suicide was recorded in 1985 during the Parade sessions. Btw, a bit off topic but I think he should have added the 3rd version of Witness 4 the Prosecution to The Black Album cuz it sounds like it was made for that particular record.
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Reply #12 posted 09/29/11 2:17pm

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I always though Wonderful Ass was from 1999

It was originally recorded back in 1983. Going from what I've heard, that version is SICK!

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Reply #13 posted 09/29/11 2:32pm

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The results if his bout with manic depression, no doubt. headbang

I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #14 posted 09/29/11 2:58pm

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aardvark15 said:

I always though Wonderful Ass was from 1999

Yep, and it's a song about Vanity

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Reply #15 posted 09/29/11 4:23pm

aardvark15

OldFriends4Sale said:

aardvark15 said:

I always though Wonderful Ass was from 1999

Yep, and it's a song about Vanity

What! Was Vanity also the name that was censored in the Purple Rain aniversary special when Lisa whispered something to wendy about who Darling Nikki was about?

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Reply #16 posted 10/06/11 8:15am

OldFriends4Sal
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My mind can't pull it up, I'm at work listening to the Ball, what is the song it segues into?

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Reply #17 posted 10/06/11 8:25am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

My mind can't pull it up, I'm at work listening to the Ball, what is the song it segues into?

Joy In Repition

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Reply #18 posted 10/06/11 8:32am

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aardvark15 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

My mind can't pull it up, I'm at work listening to the Ball, what is the song it segues into?

Joy In Repition

RIGHT!! Thanks my friend

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