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Reply #30 posted 02/17/03 11:08am

GoldNigga

This might be such good news for Prince. Whoever buys WB is going to want to start making their money back. That means the new owners will be going through WB's vaults, looking for material to put out greatest hits CDs and "Best of" compilations.

If Prince can work with the new owners on how his catalog is handled, it would be better for everyone all around. But if Prince decides to fight them, they'll just release whatever they want without his input just like WB did with the Very Best of Prince.
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Reply #31 posted 02/17/03 3:03pm

laurarichardso
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MiaBocca said:

WB were as artistically friendly to Prince as any record company could be.

He's a frickin' cry-baby that's all.

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Stop being a corporate ass kisser. WB has lost billions of dollars and is going down the shit hole. I think this news will make Prince's year.
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Reply #32 posted 02/17/03 7:51pm

chookalana

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Here is one site:

http://www.nypost.com/sev.../54338.htm

Also in a releated story AOL Time-Warner LOST $99 BILLION !!!

Holy Shiznaz!

uzi RIAA
'nuff said.
"So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
uzi RIAA
mac 'nuff said.
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Reply #33 posted 02/20/03 10:37pm

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What do you think will happen people?
"So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
uzi RIAA
mac 'nuff said.
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Reply #34 posted 02/21/03 9:22am

jaypotton

From 1978 to 1991 Warner Bros supported Prince very well. Because of them he:

* Got complete artistic control over his albums (composed, produced, arranged and performed) from the age of 19!!!

* Released a double album when he was still a minor commercial success (1999)

* Released a film when he was only a moderate commercial success (Purple Rain)

* Was able to go in a completely different artistic direction with ATWIAD (bet WB were pissed)

* Was able to set up Paisley Park records, sign and record whoever he wanted and release the albums using WB money (although this dropped off as the years went on)

* Was able to finance a recording studio in Minneapolis when most artists record in either LA, NY or Memphis

* Was able to make two more "films" for cinema release that he directed (not including SoTT) that were quite frankly pretty awful

Sure WB were happy to support him because he:

a) made them a lot of money over the years
b) brought kudos to the label

In 1992 WB signed Prince to a $100 million deal. They expected to get a return on this investment by being given the ability to exploit Prince's "product" effectively (because they would see him as a product and wanted to scale back his output so they could milk an album for all it was worth - like MJ)

Prince obviously wanted to carry on as normal but take the cash anyway. Big problems followed.

The $100 million deal as I recall broke down something like:

$10 million advance on his next album IF the previous album sold 5 million copies (this was based on D&P level of success which sold around 6 million) Otherwise he would get less advance.

I really wish both parties (because they are BOTH to blame) could have come to a mutually agreeable solution. Sigh!
[This message was edited Fri Feb 21 9:23:37 PST 2003 by jaypotton]
'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything.
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Reply #35 posted 02/21/03 9:38am

Handclapsfinga
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jaypotton said:

From 1978 to 1991 Warner Bros supported Prince very well. Because of them he:

* Got complete artistic control over his albums (composed, produced, arranged and performed) from the age of 19!!!

* Released a double album when he was still a minor commercial success (1999)

* Released a film when he was only a moderate commercial success (Purple Rain)

* Was able to go in a completely different artistic direction with ATWIAD (bet WB were pissed)

* Was able to set up Paisley Park records, sign and record whoever he wanted and release the albums using WB money (although this dropped off as the years went on)

* Was able to finance a recording studio in Minneapolis when most artists record in either LA, NY or Memphis

* Was able to make two more "films" for cinema release that he directed (not including SoTT) that were quite frankly pretty awful

Sure WB were happy to support him because he:

a) made them a lot of money over the years
b) brought kudos to the label

In 1992 WB signed Prince to a $100 million deal. They expected to get a return on this investment by being given the ability to exploit Prince's "product" effectively (because they would see him as a product and wanted to scale back his output so they could milk an album for all it was worth - like MJ)

Prince obviously wanted to carry on as normal but take the cash anyway. Big problems followed.

The $100 million deal as I recall broke down something like:

$10 million advance on his next album IF the previous album sold 5 million copies (this was based on D&P level of success which sold around 6 million) Otherwise he would get less advance.

I really wish both parties (because they are BOTH to blame) could have come to a mutually agreeable solution. Sigh!
[This message was edited Fri Feb 21 9:23:37 PST 2003 by jaypotton]

my thoughts exactly!! horns
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Reply #36 posted 02/21/03 10:19am

Universaluv

Just a couple of things

1)On the artistic freedom thing, I remember an interview with a WB exec where they said that they never really intended to let him do produce, compose... It was just a matter of "give the kid what he thinks he wants and when he realizes he's in over his head we'll be in a position to do what we want." They were genuinely surprised that he pulled off his first album.
2) Since the end of his relationship with WB, Prince has acknowledged on several occasions that he benefitted in many ways from his association with them.



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[This message was edited Fri Feb 21 10:21:10 PST 2003 by Universaluv]
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Reply #37 posted 02/22/03 8:10am

CAMILLE4U

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MiaBocca said:

WB were as artistically friendly to Prince as any record company could be.

He's a frickin' cry-baby that's all.


I'm willing to believe that but how do you know?

EMI know a good thing when they see it. If they're not still sore about the poor Emancipation sales then I reckon they'll have a bash at remastering some Prince albums. (At least the most popular ones '1999' 'Purple rain' and 'Sign of the times')

I Personally think they should remaster them all and make some 3 album sets so they don’t flood the market.

Set 1:
For you
Prince
Dirty mind

Set 2:
Controversy
1999
Purple rain

Set 3
Around the world in a day
Parade
Sign of the times

Set 4
Black album
Love sexy
Batman

Set 5
Graffiti bridge
Diamonds and pearls
0(+>

Set 6
The B-sides
Come
The gold experience (or a CD of missed tracks such as The hits tracks like 'peaches' and 'pope'. And other b sides like Sex and Alexanda de paris)
[This message was edited Sat Feb 22 8:12:07 PST 2003 by CAMILLE4U]
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Reply #38 posted 02/22/03 10:16am

giotto

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MiaBocca said:

WB were as artistically friendly to Prince as any record company could be.

He's a frickin' cry-baby that's all.



Correction: Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker were very supportive of Prince beyond the call of duty, and thank God for that.

He's still a cry-baby, though.



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Reply #39 posted 02/22/03 10:24am

udo

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Prince remasters?
Nice.
From EMI?
Hmmm...
How is EMI about them `copy protected` CD's?

I mean: I only want _real_ CD's, not them protected lookalikes.

udo
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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