rdhull said:

DaniCalifornia said:

According to this source, it was award winner, Afro-American journalist Scott Poulson Bryant who visited Paisley Park, not Mr. Kiedis...

see my reply #26

There is nothing to see, sorry.

Interesting interview, though.

DaniCalifornia said:

rdhull said:

see my reply #26

There is nothing to see, sorry.

Its states that there is no Keidis in the article

rdhull said:

DaniCalifornia said:

There is nothing to see, sorry.

Its states that there is no Keidis in the article

Yes, I know. But is this information? Truly? Prince is a multi-instrumentalist, composer and a producer, so why playboy Kiedis should have visited in Paisley Park?

DaniCalifornia said:

rdhull said:

Its states that there is no Keidis in the article

Yes, I know. But is this information? Truly? Prince is a multi-instrumentalist, composer and a producer, so why playboy Kiedis should have visited in Paisley Park?

I did not say its information. Someone posted a mag front page of where Kedis could be found making comments about visiting Paisley etc. I followed by posting a link of the actual article. I then posted after, that it appears to be no reference of Keidis in the article and someone else did as well. You stated that the article had no Peppers involvement so thats when I said see my reply #26 of this thread that states there appears to be no reference to Anthony in it. lol

But we all remember reading a blurb (I seem to remember it being in Rolling Stone random notes or something) about Keidis visiting a listening party and praising the album, so I am pretty sure it happened

NDRU said:

But we all remember reading a blurb (I seem to remember it being in Rolling Stone random notes or something) about Keidis visiting a listening party and praising the album, so I am pretty sure it happened

I dont doubt that it did.

It was probaby a Rolling Stone Random Notes blurb.

All right, I've decided to pull out my copy of "Prince: A Documentary" by Per Nilsen. This is what I found:

"10 April, 1991: USA Today reports on a sneak preview of Diamonds and Pearls. Prince had invited some guests to hear tracks from the album at Paisley Park...... Anthony Keidis, singer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, was quoted as saying excitedly that the songs were "the greatest tunes I've ever heard."

Here's his quote from the "Diamonds & Pearls" tour book:

"Prince is a funky volcano, sonically erupting colour and emotion into a world that is in need of a sacred connection between heart, music and spirit. Now get off."

anc282 said:

All right, I've decided to pull out my copy of "Prince: A Documentary" by Per Nilsen. This is what I found:

"10 April, 1991: USA Today reports on a sneak preview of Diamonds and Pearls. Prince had invited some guests to hear tracks from the album at Paisley Park...... Anthony Keidis, singer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, was quoted as saying excitedly that the songs were "the greatest tunes I've ever heard."

Here's his quote from the "Diamonds & Pearls" tour book:

"Prince is a funky volcano, sonically erupting colour and emotion into a world that is in need of a sacred connection between heart, music and spirit. Now get off."

this was obviously before gangster glam suspenders with brief bikini and rollerskates

Of course you had to go there

anc282 said:

All right, I've decided to pull out my copy of "Prince: A Documentary" by Per Nilsen. This is what I found:

"10 April, 1991: USA Today reports on a sneak preview of Diamonds and Pearls. Prince had invited some guests to hear tracks from the album at Paisley Park...... Anthony Keidis, singer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, was quoted as saying excitedly that the songs were "the greatest tunes I've ever heard."

Here's his quote from the "Diamonds & Pearls" tour book:

"Prince is a funky volcano, sonically erupting colour and emotion into a world that is in need of a sacred connection between heart, music and spirit. Now get off."

I can imagine that Anthony Kiedis has said that, but Rdhull, don't you agree that Kiedis is more a figurehead and partyman and not a true musician like Prince? What I like in Kiedis, he is humble enough to admit that. He doesn't pretend and he is a very true (and free ) spirit even when hustling.

From my opinion, Prince and RHCP are not compareable. RHCP is a band and Prince is an artist. Both are great in their league of their own, but they have different attitude to life and music business.

Who likes their new album? I think it's awesome and I'll be picking it up soon

alphastreet said:

Who likes their new album? I think it's awesome and I'll be picking it up soon

It is "experimental" if you see adding piano, trumpets, disco and african rythms that way. To me it seems, that RHCP is searching its direction and soul these days. Basicly "I'm with you" is a recognizable RHCP album but not the best I have heard from them.

I just know singles here and there from the past 20 years and almost always liked what I heard, so it's hard for me to say. I haven't actually checked out a full album of theirs till now, but I really liked what I heard, it's the kind of sound that lifts my moods

DaniCalifornia said:

anc282 said:

All right, I've decided to pull out my copy of "Prince: A Documentary" by Per Nilsen. This is what I found:

"10 April, 1991: USA Today reports on a sneak preview of Diamonds and Pearls. Prince had invited some guests to hear tracks from the album at Paisley Park...... Anthony Keidis, singer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, was quoted as saying excitedly that the songs were "the greatest tunes I've ever heard."

Here's his quote from the "Diamonds & Pearls" tour book:

"Prince is a funky volcano, sonically erupting colour and emotion into a world that is in need of a sacred connection between heart, music and spirit. Now get off."

I can imagine that Anthony Kiedis has said that, but Rdhull, don't you agree that Kiedis is more a figurehead and partyman and not a true musician like Prince? What I like in Kiedis, he is humble enough to admit that. He doesn't pretend and he is a very true (and free ) spirit even when hustling.

From my opinion, Prince and RHCP are not compareable. RHCP is a band and Prince is an artist. Both are great in their league of their own, but they have different attitude to life and music business.

Though Kiedes is not even half the musician Prince is, he is still dman near his equal due to his presented stance in life and the way he feels music and brings that out in performance. The whole "initial" vibe of the Peppers is what 1980-86 era Prince was to me. Or what I THOUGHT that Prince era was or how it was presented to us at least. You don't have to be a wiz as a musician to be that damn great imo. I like the attitude that Kiedes has in life and it shows in their attitude and music. They are very welcoming..even their dark stuff is vulnerable enough to bring forth empathy. Some of Princes dark stuff peppered throughout his releases brings out a referral pad to the psych. Not that anyone is better or worse. Im just not going to discount the flower power of the Peppers who were truly living/live it while Uptown seemed to have been an anti Reagan era town that is now run down, gentrified, in parts decayed, with legal and non legal jacks high on X, toting machine guns. Im not sure if my point is coming across well.

alphastreet said:

Who likes their new album? I think it's awesome and I'll be picking it up soon

Its great. It made me revisit a lot of their catalogue. A natural progression from Stadium Arcadium. Its still the Peppers though (and all that means..good or bad...silly bullshitlyrics...great bass and vibe...enough good guitar to classify as alternative rock with a foot in the funk..or a pinky toe in it...). A great "California" record ala a Fleetwood Mac release form the 80's.

rdhull said:

alphastreet said:

Who likes their new album? I think it's awesome and I'll be picking it up soon

Its great. It made me revisit a lot of their catalogue. A natural progression from Stadium Arcadium. Its still the Peppers though (and all that means..good or bad...silly bullshitlyrics...great bass and vibe...enough good guitar to classify as alternative rock with a foot in the funk..or a pinky toe in it...). A great "California" record ala a Fleetwood Mac release form the 80's.

rdhull said:

DaniCalifornia said:

I can imagine that Anthony Kiedis has said that, but Rdhull, don't you agree that Kiedis is more a figurehead and partyman and not a true musician like Prince? What I like in Kiedis, he is humble enough to admit that. He doesn't pretend and he is a very true (and free ) spirit even when hustling.

From my opinion, Prince and RHCP are not compareable. RHCP is a band and Prince is an artist. Both are great in their league of their own, but they have different attitude to life and music business.

Though Kiedes is not even half the musician Prince is, he is still dman near his equal due to his presented stance in life and the way he feels music and brings that out in performance. The whole "initial" vibe of the Peppers is what 1980-86 era Prince was to me. Or what I THOUGHT that Prince era was or how it was presented to us at least. You don't have to be a wiz as a musician to be that damn great imo. I like the attitude that Kiedes has in life and it shows in their attitude and music. They are very welcoming..even their dark stuff is vulnerable enough to bring forth empathy. Some of Princes dark stuff peppered throughout his releases brings out a referral pad to the psych. Not that anyone is better or worse. Im just not going to discount the flower power of the Peppers who were truly living/live it while Uptown seemed to have been an anti Reagan era town that is now run down, gentrified, in parts decayed, with legal and non legal jacks high on X, toting machine guns. Im not sure if my point is coming across well.

Agreed. I have to add though that Flea IS damn near Prince's equal as far as musicianship goes. An amazing bassist, an accomplished classical pianist, an accomplished trumpet player. Pretty damn good drummer as well. Now don't get me wrong, I am more of a Prince fan than a RHCP fan but the argument can be made that the Peppers taken as a whole out do Prince . Further, they continue to show growth from one record to the next which is not always the case with Prince.

DaniCalifornia said:

anc282 said:

All right, I've decided to pull out my copy of "Prince: A Documentary" by Per Nilsen. This is what I found:

"10 April, 1991: USA Today reports on a sneak preview of Diamonds and Pearls. Prince had invited some guests to hear tracks from the album at Paisley Park...... Anthony Keidis, singer for Red Hot Chili Peppers, was quoted as saying excitedly that the songs were "the greatest tunes I've ever heard."

Here's his quote from the "Diamonds & Pearls" tour book:

"Prince is a funky volcano, sonically erupting colour and emotion into a world that is in need of a sacred connection between heart, music and spirit. Now get off."

I can imagine that Anthony Kiedis has said that, but Rdhull, don't you agree that Kiedis is more a figurehead and partyman and not a true musician like Prince? What I like in Kiedis, he is humble enough to admit that. He doesn't pretend and he is a very true (and free ) spirit even when hustling.

From my opinion, Prince and RHCP are not compareable. RHCP is a band and Prince is an artist. Both are great in their league of their own, but they have different attitude to life and music business.

there are huge differences, obviously, but there are similarities between Prince and RHCP.

In the 80's they were straddling genres crafting their own sounds in the process. Not really categorizable because they didn't really fit on rock radio or R&B radio (or rap)

They had the image of sex obsessed partiers, but they took the music very seriously, and in fact are (Kiedis aside ) some of the best musicians around.

And they cover some of the same musical territory. Specifically related to this topic, when I first heard Live 4 Love it reminded me a lot of RHCP

NDRU said:

DaniCalifornia said:

I can imagine that Anthony Kiedis has said that, but Rdhull, don't you agree that Kiedis is more a figurehead and partyman and not a true musician like Prince? What I like in Kiedis, he is humble enough to admit that. He doesn't pretend and he is a very true (and free ) spirit even when hustling.

From my opinion, Prince and RHCP are not compareable. RHCP is a band and Prince is an artist. Both are great in their league of their own, but they have different attitude to life and music business.

there are huge differences, obviously, but there are similarities between Prince and RHCP.

In the 80's they were straddling genres crafting their own sounds in the process. Not really categorizable because they didn't really fit on rock radio or R&B radio (or rap)

They had the image of sex obsessed partiers, but they took the music very seriously, and in fact are (Kiedis aside ) some of the best musicians around.

And they cover some of the same musical territory. Specifically related to this topic, when I first heard Live 4 Love it reminded me a lot of RHCP

I think you also have to give Keidis his due. He has grown leaps and bounds as a singer and continues to get better with every new record. I think he takes it just as seriously as the rest of them.

chrisslope9 said:

NDRU said:

there are huge differences, obviously, but there are similarities between Prince and RHCP.

In the 80's they were straddling genres crafting their own sounds in the process. Not really categorizable because they didn't really fit on rock radio or R&B radio (or rap)

They had the image of sex obsessed partiers, but they took the music very seriously, and in fact are (Kiedis aside ) some of the best musicians around.

And they cover some of the same musical territory. Specifically related to this topic, when I first heard Live 4 Love it reminded me a lot of RHCP

I think you also have to give Keidis his due. He has grown leaps and bounds as a singer and continues to get better with every new record. I think he takes it just as seriously as the rest of them.

yeah I don't mean to trash him, I like him, I only mean that Flea, Chad, and whoever is playing guitar at the time are among the best in their fields, and Anthony just plain isn't the best singer

But he is a great front man, a great performer, an okay singer, and he is a huge part of crafting their image, and I totally agree he takes it very seriously.

alphastreet said:

Who likes their new album? I think it's awesome and I'll be picking it up soon

Everything they'd released in the last 10-15 years sounds the same. Not bad, but not interesting either. They've become boring stereotypical artists like Bon Jovi, Aerosmith or Lenny Kravitz. Whenever I hear a song of these artists on the radio I'm asking myself if this is new or just a song from the last fifteen albums. Always the same.

And I was a big Peppers fan in the 90ies.

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I think Bon Jovi and Aerosmith are lame now, they haven't had a good song since the late 90's. Lenny has been hit or miss since the 90's though when he brings it, he really brings it! The new ones from the peppers sounds good for the most part. Whatever few songs I know from the peppers, I really like.

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alphastreet said:

I think Bon Jovi and Aerosmith are lame now, they haven't had a good song since the late 90's. Lenny has been hit or miss since the 90's though when he brings it, he really brings it! The new ones from the peppers sounds good for the most part. Whatever few songs I know from the peppers, I really like.

exactly, their music is still good, it's just not surprising particularly new

The incident where Keidis visited Paisley Park IS mentioned in his book Scar Tissue.

I dont have my copy with me but if I recall correctly he was with one of the Warner Brothers guys, Mo Ostin maybe. I think it was just prior to the Chili Peppers signing with WB.

I just bought his book the other day, but I haven't read it yet, so thanks for the heads-up on the Prince mention.

I like them both, and have been a fan of both for a very long time. They may even enjoy each other, but no way they can collaborate. Like someone said earlier, RHCP is a band, Prince is a solo entity. The only way for him to get in would be to take over the vocals from Anthony....and that ain't gonna happen. Because WHOEVER guest sings is going to outshine Ant by leaps and bounds. So we see Flea on side projects, Chad playing with Chickenfoot, and when John was in the band he was releasing solo albums. Anthony knows his limits. So there is really no way for them to fit together musically.

I really do hope the prove me wrong.

There is one RHCP song that sounds an absolute rip off of the beat from 'All Day, All Night' ...don't know the name of it though.

leonche64 said:

I like them both, and have been a fan of both for a very long time. They may even enjoy each other, but no way they can collaborate. Like someone said earlier, RHCP is a band, Prince is a solo entity. The only way for him to get in would be to take over the vocals from Anthony....and that ain't gonna happen. Because WHOEVER guest sings is going to outshine Ant by leaps and bounds. So we see Flea on side projects, Chad playing with Chickenfoot, and when John was in the band he was releasing solo albums. Anthony knows his limits. So there is really no way for them to fit together musically.

I really do hope the prove me wrong.

I doubt it would ever happen either. Prince never seems to play with rock bands, he only plays with R&B singers or legends like Santana or Larry...or even Tom Petty, I guess.

But i think he could play guitar with them. Always room for a second guitar. He obviously doesn't mind that role sometimes, with no singing.

colorblu said:

rdhull said:

Its great. It made me revisit a lot of their catalogue. A natural progression from Stadium Arcadium. Its still the Peppers though (and all that means..good or bad...silly bullshitlyrics...great bass and vibe...enough good guitar to classify as alternative rock with a foot in the funk..or a pinky toe in it...). A great "California" record ala a Fleetwood Mac release form the 80's.

The album is very good and even better live. I saw them about three weeks ago at the Nokia Club in Los Angeles. The show was awesome, and what was even cooler was seeing them in a place slightly bigger than the House of Blues. Love the Peppers!