http://www.youtube.com/wa...-2ckL0rrlY

Andre Cymone - Neon Pussycat

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It does sound similar but it's not exactly the same.

xLiberiangirl said:

It does sound similar but it's not exactly the same.

It's not the actual beat lifted directly but to me it sounds an exact copy.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

xLiberiangirl said:

It does sound similar but it's not exactly the same.

It's not the actual beat lifted directly but to me it sounds an exact copy.

it doesnt sound nearly close enough to say he ripped it from him

cbarnes3121 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

It's not the actual beat lifted directly but to me it sounds an exact copy.

it doesnt sound nearly close enough to say he ripped it from him

Totally disagree, listen to the first 10 seconds..

Nah. Similar, but I don't think he ripped it.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

cbarnes3121 said:

it doesnt sound nearly close enough to say he ripped it from him

Totally disagree, listen to the first 10 seconds..

1st ten seconds lol u base a whole damn song drumline off of ten senconds please get a life lol

cbarnes3121 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Totally disagree, listen to the first 10 seconds..

1st ten seconds lol u base a whole damn song drumline off of ten senconds please get a life lol

Yeah, Prince based the whole drumline off of then seconds, so get a life! HAHA

Personally i actuall enjoy neon pussycat more than black sweat, even though andre is not half the vocalist or arranger prince is. But damn, Prince has used alot of Andre inspired shit withoout giving him any credit for it. I wouldn't be shocked if the bassline on Lets Work was oroginally written by andre cymone. Prince has taken many of the concepts of Andre earlier, so why not again? People always looked at ANdre like he was a copycat, but personally I think they both influenced eachother just as much, but Prince at the end of the day is a better song writer, arranger and composer.

actuall at about 48 seconds the synth. sounds like 17 days.

Now that u mention it...

But despite having had the Cymone track 4 the last 20 years or so, I'd never had noticed it myself, so IDK.

HA! Not really close, and no he didn't have to rip anything off from anyone.

I think you're just comparing the fact that both beats have an isolated snare at the end of each 4 bars, with the open/closed hi-hat leading to the snare. There's also a quicker open/closed hi-hat that I hear... TONS of beats have done that throughout the years. I hear why you say that, but nah...

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it's similar i suppose. black sweat has less hihat and more swing to the bass pattern. i bet there's thousands of tracks with a similar beat. there's a reason drummers don't get credited as composers.

black sweat is one of my favorite pop sounding grooves by him in the two thousadns its simple and i reely dig the funny break down part and his facial expressions in the vid its good fun;];] i bought the video fromi tunes and watch it all the time on my ipod its pretty good i enjoy it and, DANCE 4 ME does sound a bit like it both pretty much pointless good fun songs just to get a fun groove goin;];];]

cbarnes3121 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Totally disagree, listen to the first 10 seconds..

1st ten seconds lol u base a whole damn song drumline off of ten senconds please get a life lol

It's not a question of having a life its a question of having ears!

The first 10 or 15 secs is when you can hear it clearly but its still there through the rest of the song...

robertgeorgeakabob said:

i bet there's thousands of tracks with a similar beat.

Yeah, like all of these:

I Can't Go For That ~ Daryl Hall & John Oates

Billie Jean ~ Michael Jackson

Superstar ~ Lydia Murdock

Like A Virgin ~ Madonna

Carribean Queen ~ Billy Ocean

Night Rider ~ Midnight Star

Addicted To Love ~ Robert Palmer

Most house music beats sound the same to me.

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This song has drums on it and Black Sweat does too so must have been a ripoff.

MickyDolenz said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

i bet there's thousands of tracks with a similar beat.

Yeah, like all of these:

I Can't Go For That ~ Daryl Hall & John Oates

Billie Jean ~ Michael Jackson

Superstar ~ Lydia Murdock

Like A Virgin ~ Madonna

Carribean Queen ~ Billy Ocean

Night Rider ~ Midnight Star

Addicted To Love ~ Robert Palmer

Most house music beats sound the same to me.

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Nah, the same use of open linn hi hat leading to the clap on the same particular parts of the 4/4, and with a similar sound on the mix makes it sound like neon pussycat. None of the ones you mention does that. But Prince did maybe a more clever use of it, making it sound a bit more sophisticated. But I'm 100% sure it atleast was inspired by that song. People are just ignorant to the fact that Prince is heavily inspired by both band members and other more known artists.

Cymone always claimed that he had written Do Me, Maby and a part of Uptown.

Giovanni777 said:

HA! Not really close, and no he didn't have to rip anything off from anyone.

I think you're just comparing the fact that both beats have an isolated snare at the end of each 4 bars, with the open/closed hi-hat leading to the snare. There's also a quicker open/closed hi-hat that I hear... TONS of beats have done that throughout the years. I hear why you say that, but nah...

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I was going to say I've heard this beat so many times.

vvluvfunk said:

black sweat is one of my favorite pop sounding grooves by him in the two thousadns its simple and i reely dig the funny break down part and his facial expressions in the vid its good fun;];]

Much for Black Sweat. That thing is funky!

Replica said:

MickyDolenz said:

Yeah, like all of these:

I Can't Go For That ~ Daryl Hall & John Oates

Billie Jean ~ Michael Jackson

Superstar ~ Lydia Murdock

Like A Virgin ~ Madonna

Carribean Queen ~ Billy Ocean

Night Rider ~ Midnight Star

Addicted To Love ~ Robert Palmer

Most house music beats sound the same to me.

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Nah, the same use of open linn hi hat leading to the clap on the same particular parts of the 4/4, and with a similar sound on the mix makes it sound like neon pussycat. None of the ones you mention does that. But Prince did maybe a more clever use of it, making it sound a bit more sophisticated. But I'm 100% sure it atleast was inspired by that song. People are just ignorant to the fact that Prince is heavily inspired by both band members and other more known artists.

I wasn't talking about them sounding like the Andre's and Prince's songs, but that the songs I listed have similar beats and rhythms to each other. I was responding to the "thousands of songs having similar beats" comment, and that's why I added house music.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...-2ckL0rrlY

Andre Cymone - Neon Pussycat

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there's no debate in here, this is plain stupid.

^ What plain stupid to deny Prince would ever 'borrow' anything, yes I agree.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Andre Cymone - Neon Pussycat

MadamGoodnight said:

vvluvfunk said:

black sweat is one of my favorite pop sounding grooves by him in the two thousadns its simple and i reely dig the funny break down part and his facial expressions in the vid its good fun;];]

Much for Black Sweat. That thing is funky!

Love the video

the synth jingle that precedes the verse is more similar to 17 days than the beat is to black sweat.

Replica said:

MickyDolenz said:

Yeah, like all of these:

I Can't Go For That ~ Daryl Hall & John Oates

Billie Jean ~ Michael Jackson

Superstar ~ Lydia Murdock

Like A Virgin ~ Madonna

Carribean Queen ~ Billy Ocean

Night Rider ~ Midnight Star

Addicted To Love ~ Robert Palmer

Most house music beats sound the same to me.

[Edited 9/3/11 13:17pm]

Nah, the same use of open linn hi hat leading to the clap on the same particular parts of the 4/4, and with a similar sound on the mix makes it sound like neon pussycat. None of the ones you mention does that. But Prince did maybe a more clever use of it, making it sound a bit more sophisticated. But I'm 100% sure it atleast was inspired by that song. People are just ignorant to the fact that Prince is heavily inspired by both band members and other more known artists.

Most non-musicians are just ignorant to the fact that ALL artists are heavily inspired by others.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

^ What plain stupid to deny Prince would ever 'borrow' anything, yes I agree.

See my post above!

Which, of course, makes it plain stupid that you are trying to make the point in the first place

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