November 4, Joe Louis Arena , Detroit
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My first and still fav Prince poster I use to listen to the 45 of 17 Days over and over again-nice thread. | |
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04 NOV, 1984 ::::: Detroit, MI, USA – Joe Louis Arena
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October 1984 | |
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Hey, thanks for these "era" threads - I learned A LOT. I kinda of feel like I know what it must have been like to live those eras as a young adult, and understand how fresh & exciting it was at the time. I've been reading up/catching up on this era in music generally (other bands, artists) and it seems like it was an exciting time. Things seem to have changed in the late 90s generally, the whole music industry and even our popular culture. I've read articles about it in Slate and other magazines. I remember as a kid that "doves cry" was played a lot, and I had a creepy feeling when he crawled out of that bathtub and strutted down those spiral steps - it was nasty, and yet, I couldn't peel my eyes away. It seemed "wrong," like I knew I didn't want my parents to know I was watching this, but I didn't know why. Also remember older kids playing "erotic city" on the stereo outside at SDA youth gym night, and they were uncomfortable when I came outside, and I knew somehow that SDA kids oughtn't hear this stuff! and I didn't [want to] like that creepy voice, and yet I was mesmerized. It's like Aristotle said, "the aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance" - I didn't know what the song was about, but somehow I understood; the song, even without words, conveys the feelings, the inward significance. I have young kid memories of Madonna, MJ and other artists too, but they didn't have that same transgressional feeling, even if they were doing the same things like mixing the sacred & profane, being androgynous or being sexual. Anyway, thanks! | |
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Welcome 2 the Dawn
I always thought of it as DANGEROUS SEXUALITY
even the music sound dangerous: an example is the guitar solo/piece during Computer Blue when Wendy is on her knees, it sounds dangerous
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To be a new hardcore Prince fan back then and being a new one now are two completely separate things. Back then, you were a part of a purple hysteria unlike any other. Now, you'd need to go back to the music of that era and have your own purple hysteria, because it's damn sure not going to happen from anything he releases these days or be in the public like that anymore. | |
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Yes - DANGEROUS is a good word. That beginning of "When Doves Cry," you feel like "something" gonna happen, right to the edge of comfort-discomfort. Also, erotic city, w/o any lyrics, still sounds like ... well, what it's about. I think this quality about him is partly why I can't tell anyone around here that I like his music b/c I get strange "eww"-like reactions and I feel immediately judged. Btw, those other 1984 best album nominees - all seem better than Lionel Ritchie's - what happened there? They picked the safest one. Also, the tour dates on this one, wow so many! - it's like the fan's review of Prince's opening of Rick James: the fan wondered, the audience is totally spent, how can they (the performers) do this every night, over & over in countless cities? That amazes me, not just about Prince, but other performers too. I saw a video of him doing an awesome "Purple Rain" just this summer, I'm thinking this must be the millioneth time he's sung it, but he had so much energy & emotion! | |
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Prince @ 1st Avenue 8.3.1983 Benefit Concert
Prince @ 1st Avenue 8.3.1983 Benefit Concert For The Minnesota
Dance Theater Company 1.Let's Go Crazy
2.When You Were Mine (Dirty Mind) 3.A Case Of You (cover) 4.Computer Blue 5.Delirious (1999) 6.Electric Intercourse 7.Automatic (1999) 8.I Would Die 4 U /Baby I'm A Star 9. Little Red Corvette (1999) 10.Purple Rain 11.D.M.S.R (1999) The 1983 concert took place at First Avenue in Minneapolis. A year later when the club was featured in Purple Rain (the movie), the venue would be changed forever. In 1983 however, it was perfect for hosting a newly minted Prince & The Revolution. Prince had been performing with some of the band members for a while, but the show was the debut of guitarist Wendy Melvoin who would continue with the band until their dissolution in 1986.
But back on track – the 1983 show (August 3rd, to be more exact) was the first public live performance of Prince & The Revolution. The concert was a benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater Company. It was also the first time the band would perform several of what would become their signature tracks, most importantly Purple Rain.
Everyone knows the song. Play the first few chords and you’ll have everyone around you singing along. But in 1983 that wasn’t the case. Instead you had a capacity crowd silenced by the song’s first performance. This is one of only a handful of bootlegs of this track that does not have the crowd going nuts; instead they listen to the song and literally see history in the making. Obviously they can’t sing along, the song is new. So instead they listen; Seeing Prince at his absolute rawest in a tiny club with bad sound, sweating his ass off for the Minnesota Dance Theater Company. And melting off faces with one of his best guitar solos.
This live show made up the basis for several Purple Rain tracks, including the title track, I Would Die 4 U and Baby I’m A Star. Prince’s vocals are spot on with how you know them – because they were recorded from a mobile truck outside of First Avenue. Add in a few overdubs and there you have it, one of the best selling albums of the 80s.
Regardless of how you view Prince now, back then one thing was clear – his name was Prince, his favorite color was purple, and he was a bad motherfucker.
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That show was AWESOME! And where the heck is my DVD of it? Hey loudmouth, shut the fuck up, right? | |
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5.1.1985 Cow Palace San Francisco. 4 Dates at the Cow Palace
A Case of You & Still Waiting performed
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That was a different kind of rawness, those kinds of shows for some reason is when Prince shined the most. Of course this one is classicaly & historically 1 of a kind.
I love the dark outfit that's the opposite of the one he wore during Let's Go Crazy in PR
The lights make it appear as Prince is wearing a radioactive purple shirt. He comes to the mic too early, and briefly backs away, his eye-make up dark patches in a deep purple stage light, sweat glimmering on his cheekbones, and his hair asymmetrical and tumbling over his eyes, just like Wendy. Her smile, his seriousness, they complement one another, brother and sister, nothing sexual. The gig is a benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater. Prince and the Revolution are taking dance lessons and their tutor suggests the gig as a way of supporting the financially challenged theatre; because Prince is a local lad, born and raised in Minneapolis, a city he will always come back to, he agrees to play. In 1983, Prince is an international star, thanks to 1999 and Little Red Corvette. He has released five albums in five years, from when he was eighteen years old. He has so many songs he forms other bands like The Time and Vanity 6 to play them, he is an impresario and a producer and he is also only twenty-three years old, not so far away from the poor black kid who stood outside McDonald’s just to smell the food he couldn’t afford. His instinct for self-reliance, his tendency to be dictatorial, has been blindsided by these two sophisticated young women, Wendy and, on her keyboards, her lover, Lisa; for the first time in his life, he will collaborate in a meaningful way.
For Wendy, Lisa and Prince, this time is like going to college. They hang out together, play each other music. Lisa has a great sound system in her car, and she takes Wendy and Prince for a drive. The two young women introduce Prince to music he has never heard before – Gustav Mahler, the English pastoral of Vaughan Williams, the experiments of Joni Mitchell and Peter Gabriel. It’s an education for him.
The crowd at First Avenue, their faces straining against one another, receive the brief benediction of a wavering spotlight: to them, Purple Rain doesn’t sound like any song that Prince has played before: the tight electronic funk, his harsh and weird sex songs, the soul ballads in which he asks for forgiveness – Purple Rain is something new, something different. They don’t know how to react. In fact the crowd is so muted that when this recording is prepared for the album, the engineer loops some crowd noise taken from a football game to give it some life. What do great songs sound like the first time we hear them? Can you remember that feeling? When Bob Dylan heard The Animals’ version of House of the Rising Sun, he got out of the car and ran around it again and again he was so excited. The first time you hear a great song is so rare, and it can never be repeated; watching the crowd during this first performance of Purple Rain, I see that look on a few faces, a silent shocked awe. On the twenty-seven other recordings of Purple Rain in my iPod, the moment the first chord is strummed, the crowd cheer, acknowledging the anthem. They become a congregation, keen to be guided through the Purple Rain, and that has its ecstasies, even if it involves cigarette lighters held aloft, and hands waved in the air. But to hear silence flowing back from the audience, no singalong because they don’t know the words, is to eavesdrop on the shock of the new.
The lyrics of Purple Rain suggest the singer has wronged someone, harmed them inadvertently. In the context of the Purple Rain film that someone is Prince’s girlfriend; in fact, in a rather literal outtake from the film, Prince and his girlfriend have sex in a barn at dawn, and the water streaming down from the roof sheathes her naked skin, which is then struck by the dawn rays, so that she appears to be bathing in a kind of purple rain. Music video directors in the 1980s could be very literal; if Bonnie Tyler sang “turn around bright eyes”, then we would see a boy with very bright eyes turning around.
What does purple represent to Prince? Purple is a gateway colour, a transition from one stage to the next, the colour of dusk and dawn, magic hour between day and night. Purple is also a mix of pink and blue, a boy and a girl. I’m not a woman, I’m not a man. I am something you will never understand. Prince casts himself as androgynous as a tactic of seduction, a conventional hetero offer with a side order of feminine sensitivity, or at least, what a twenty three year considers to be sensitivity. Purple is also the colour of royalty, and he is a Prince. The sub-editors of the Sun will pun Purple Rain into Purple R.e.i.g.n. Or is it the purple of Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze? All of these possible meanings are burnt away by the guitar. The solo is a messianic ejaculation, an absolving, annihilating ecstasy. The sky was all purple and there were people running everywhere, sang Prince, predicting the millennial panic of 1999. He even wrote a song called Ronnie Talk To Russia Before It’s Too Late, a trite bit of rockabilly agit-pop that called for Ronald Reagan to negotiate with the Soviet Union, a sentiment he was to express more succinctly in the high-pitched childish voice in 1999 that asked, “Mommy, why does everyone have a Bomb?” The sky is all purple because it is on fire, and what follows is a quenching of that destruction.
Purple Rain is the redemptive baptism on the night of the apocalypse, forgiveness for the terrible sins committed by the singer and by us. Prince is clear that we are all implicated. Times are changing. It’s time we all reached out for something new, and that means you too. He is our messiah, so he tells us in another song on the album, I Would Die 4 U. You say you want a leader but you can’t seem to make up your mind I think you better close it and let me guide you to the Purple Rain.
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i think this may be the greatest sentence ive ever read Bogey and Bacall, peanut butter and jelly, Wall being on fucking point, is "classic" dipshit. An iphone is top shelf technology. Get it straight. This thing is 4g. -Wall the great | |
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Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Come on, kiss the gun Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun
Sex Shooter
I need U 2 get me off CHORUS: I need U 2 pull my trigger, baby CHORUS Come on, kiss the gun Sex shooter Listen.. I'm a sex shooter Come on, kiss the gun, guaranteed 4 fun {x4} Come on, kiss the gun No girl's body can compete with mine Come on, kiss the gun Sex shooter All the nasty people sing it All the nasty people sing it! Fellas, take it home, uh Brenda? (Uh huh?) Susan? (Uh huh?) New York? (Uh huh?) New York? (Uh huh?)
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This photo should have been the cover 2 the Purple Rain single
The crowd at First Avenue, their faces straining against one another, receive the brief benediction of a wavering spotlight: to them, Purple Rain doesn’t sound like any song that Prince has played before: the tight electronic funk, his harsh and weird sex songs, the soul ballads in which he asks for forgiveness – Purple Rain is something new, something different. They don’t know how to react. In fact the crowd is so muted that when this recording is prepared for the album, the engineer loops some crowd noise taken from a football game to give it some life. What do great songs sound like the first time we hear them? Can you remember that feeling?
The first time you hear a great song is so rare, and it can never be repeated; watching the crowd during this first performance of Purple Rain, I see that look on a few faces, a silent shocked awe. On the twenty-seven other recordings of Purple Rain in my iPod, the moment the first chord is strummed, the crowd cheer, acknowledging the anthem. They become a congregation, keen to be guided through the Purple Rain, and that has its ecstasies, even if it involves cigarette lighters held aloft, and hands waved in the air. But to hear silence flowing back from the audience, no singalong because they don’t know the words, is to eavesdrop on the shock of the new.
ANOTHER ANGLE Cool, gray dawn. He's in a dead sleep on the floor, his arms outstretched, his legs twisted beneath him. His Father's outline seemingly rests by his side... Just then the basement window begins to glow with SUNLIGHT. It inches slowly across the floor, then sweeps him majestically, bathing him in its warmth. He wakes slowly, stretches his limbs like an opening flower. After a moment he sits up, shades his eyes... The basement is littered with debris. The destruction is complete, but in the midst of it lies his Father's music. The yellow parchment is scattered about glowing in the sunlight... Something seems to flash across his mind. he stands, moves quickly down the hallway to the antechamber... Suddenly we HEAR a TAPE REWINDING. After a moment...MUSIC and we immediately recognize it as Lisa's and Wendy's SONG. It plays a moment, then snaps off abruptly. He stands locked in thought, then sits behind the piano, hunts for the first few notes of Lisa's and Wendy's song... | |
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Dearly beloved If U don't like the world U're living in CHORUS: We're all excited, but we don't know why CHORUS Come on, baby Are we gonna let de-elevator bring us down? Dr. Everything'll Be Alright will make everything go wrong He's coming! Take me away!
© 1984 Controversy Music - ASCAP
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The sweat of your body covers me. Can u picture this, my darling? An ocean of violets engulf our persons. A bird screams. At 1st, I think it's u and u thought it was me. Oh, if only violets could talk. Insecurities. Do u know who u are? Then it doesn't matter who screamed 1st. Did it matter who ate of the apple 1st? The end result was negative. Can u pass me the pepper? Why, because u told me salt was bad 4 me. I thought u liked eggs. I thought u liked me. Well, eggs are the only thing I can make besides a baby. Why do u look at me like that? What are u thinking? I know u better than u think I do. There's this purple suspicion that lurks in the anals of my mind that u and I are alike in more ways than 6. Can u relate? oh yeah? Then what's the difference between a beautiful man and an ugly man with money? Nothing - as far as you're concerned. Do u still want 2 spend the night? Good. Come on. U said u would wash my hair. Shall we go swimming 1st? U can't swim. Wonderful. "I'll teach u 2 swim, I'll teach u 2 try, I'll teach u 2 laugh, but not 2 cry. I'll teach u 2 trust me when u think I lie, I'll teach u 2 love me until we die." It's from a song I wrote. Do u believe that? U do? Well, I lied. I just made it up. Pretty good, huh. It's not nice 2 lie. I think we're on the right track. Shall I wash u 1st or shall u wash me?
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Cool thread, this is were it all began for me 27yrs ago...
These are some clippings from UK music mags Smash Hits & No 1.
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If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014 | |
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This is so true...right down to "everyday rain." I think everyone thinks of Prince when they hear the song, "Ventura Highway," too. It's an uphill climb to the finish line. | |
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OMG I lUvE these the last one is my favorite. Love that line "The Rain Never Stops" I tried to tell someone that threads like these will always turn up new members/old members with new stories untold stories and pictures. Thanks U 4 Sharing them | |
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This thread gets four and a
Oh yeah congrats on being mod, OldFriends.
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Here is one more of these ads, they are not in great condition as they adorned my bedroom wall for a long time before getting shelved. I used have tons of stuff like this but most of it got destroyed about 10 yrs ago when a new roof was being put on what was my bedroom.
[img:$uid]http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc5/level11/Clippings/princelivead.jpg[/img:$uid] If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014 | |
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Oh yeah, just managed to get that gig downloaded, took all day, but how, something like this is worth it...listening to Purple Rain in the ears of a virgin, wow, i had forgotten what that was like...
one can be objective or subjective about music...but with Prince?... If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014 | |
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NICE, when I got a hold of that one I was crazy with excitement, this 1 show tops all in historic excitement, U can feel the greatness about to take place This is the 1 version I can listen to anytime
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Big Chick Bobby Z & Prince | |
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