SoulAlive said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Damn, really?

Wasn't it the girl who appeared in MJ's "The Way You Make Me Feel" video? She hung out with Prince and said that there was no sex involved.

It might be...I read portions of her book online and she talked a lot about Prince.

-Very Tricky' question.

-Prince is made up of.., parts, and there is a part and WHERE in his life, he is a Conservative.

Yes...through the albums you can see this in the background...

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes...through the albums you can see this in the background...

^-

-Very observant!

-I see it in his movies too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-That is why 'Flim is very important in Prince's life.

MyJobIz2beCute said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes...through the albums you can see this in the background...

^-

-Very observant!

-I see it in his movies too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-That is why 'Flim is very important in Prince's life.

Yes....even if it takes the form of backward masking saying 'The Lord Is Coming Soon' to counter act the sexual lyrics..

[Edited 8/18/11 13:16pm]

derrick31 said:

NouveauDance said:

He's always been a religious nutter, so yeah.

You see his freedom mantras mainly pertained to himself, not anyone else.

He's not a religious nutter. Liberals always deem those with strong Christian beliefs as crazy. Liberals aren't as open minded as they claim to be, especially those on the West and East coast of the U.S. They are only open to those who agree with them.Prince is like most Americans, liberal on some issues and conservative on others.

Have you been paying attention, he's CLEARLY a religious nutter. We're not just talking about your common or garden Christian who occasionally nips into church for a couple of weeks when they need to get a kid in the local catholic school - the guy is a fruitcake.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

^-

-Very observant!

-I see it in his movies too!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-That is why 'Flim is very important in Prince's life.

Yes....even if it takes the form of backward masking saying 'The Lord Is Coming Soon' to counter act the sexual lyrics..

[Edited 8/18/11 13:16pm]

^-

-I am fasinated with Prince and film.

-I have that audio of the movie, with Prince and Apollonia before they 'do it,' where the tape frame and the sounds that come out, it is backwards, well i KNOW what Jill Jones is saying!!

-She says so much, but the part that GETS ME EVERYTIME is, "I want to go to Heaven, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL!"

-I am blowN away!

-I can be here for hours talking about it!

[Edited 8/18/11 13:41pm]

MyJobIz2beCute said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes....even if it takes the form of backward masking saying 'The Lord Is Coming Soon' to counter act the sexual lyrics..

[Edited 8/18/11 13:16pm]

^-

-I am fasinated with Prince and film.

-I have that audio of the movie, with Prince and Apollonia before they 'do it,' where the tape frame and the sounds that come out, it is backwards, well i KNOW what Jill Jones is saying!!

-She says so much, but the part that GETS ME EVERYTIME is, "I want to go to Heaven, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL!"

-I am blowN away!

-I can be here for hours talking about it!

[Edited 8/18/11 13:41pm]

I never heard that played back from the film...sounds fascinating.

I love the backward masking on Darlin Nikki and in Girl...although never found out what is said in Girl...

TheFreakerFantastic said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

^-

-I am fasinated with Prince and film.

-I have that audio of the movie, with Prince and Apollonia before they 'do it,' where the tape frame and the sounds that come out, it is backwards, well i KNOW what Jill Jones is saying!!

-She says so much, but the part that GETS ME EVERYTIME is, "I want to go to Heaven, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL!"

-I am blowN away!

-I can be here for hours talking about it!

[Edited 8/18/11 13:41pm]

I never heard that played back from the film...sounds fascinating.

I love the backward masking on Darlin Nikki and in Girl...although never found out what is said in Girl...

^-

-That is why Prince music is so important, his life is broken up in sections.

-Sooo many messages!!

-So MANY.

Prince sure wouldnt be the First Black Celeb that leans more toward the Conservative side VS Liberal. Brian Mcknight is also a Conservative. I feel Prince is "Independent" on his Views about Life, Religion & Politics..

This is a very interesting read and takes me so many places. I also think Prince was liberal in some situations but very conservative in some. When you look at the lyrics of Uptown he says : "Where I come from, we don't let society tell us how it suppose to be...Our clothes, Our hair, we don't care; it's all about being there."

With that one might find that to be liberal; but it could also mean that he thought society would tell them not to acknowledge God, etc.

I don't know but as someone perfectly said...Prince is like most Americans, liberal on some issues and conservative on others.

I myself am not liberal on all issues, (Most issues I am...) I have my own set of convictions, but I certainty don't press them on every one without questions. My convictions by no means excludes everyone else who does not see it my way.

While obviously GOD is a major part of his music and life, I don't think that is a bad thing. It sometimes seems; believing in God is all of a sudden a bad thing. It can be bad when it's pushed and inconsiderate of other faiths. (Which is why the Jehovah Witness's aren't received well because they are essentially condemn anyone else who does not accept their "truth")

I myself rather wish it was like 'I Wish U Heaven'. "If I say 11, u can see it's 7..Still I wish U heaven". That is the way I think it should be in many cases. BUT when he became more "conservative" or rather a Jehovah witness it became more...

'1+1+1 Is 3'

In which he said " This is how it's going to be, if you want to be with me, AIN'T NO ROOM FOR DISAGREE BECAUSE 1+1+1 IS 3.

Then he seemed to be making a distinction; making it clear since 1+1+1 is 3, There ain't no room for questions. If you don't like it..LEAVE..

Haha..

So I mean this whole thread is very interesting I learned somethings I did not know. Such as him possibly being a republican and supporting Ronald Regan...I MEAN WOW! That comes as a surprise I need to dig in that deeper..lol. I did not see it like that. It's all interesting. But I mean it's controversy!

I know that a lot of what he did and does is to be questioned...He is still a walking contradiction!

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

^-

-What year was this, what was he promoting, a record?

MyJobIz2beCute said:

^-

-What year was this, what was he promoting, a record?

Rave Un2 the Joy fantastic was the album he was promoting.

Bitch gets on TRL live and starts talking about how cool his upcoming show as goign to

be because he would have Chaka friggen Khan and Larry Graham there.

and before some asshole starts in on the fact that they're legends, my point is

what was Prince expecting from going on TRL and talking about oldschool shit.

Did he even know who his audience would be?

[Edited 8/18/11 20:16pm]

imago said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

^-

-What year was this, what was he promoting, a record?

Rave Un2 the Joy fantastic was the album he was promoting.

Bitch gets on TRL live and starts talking about how cool his upcoming show as goign to

be because he would have Chaka friggen Khan and Larry Graham there.

and before some asshole starts in on the fact that they're legends, my point is

what was Prince expecting from going on TRL and talking about oldschool shit.

Did he even know who his audience would be?

[Edited 8/18/11 20:16pm]

^-

-The Devil was sure laughing at me that day!

imago said:

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

Is he not being himself or is he just trying to put his "best face" forward? Think of it like a job interview. You're doing your best to impress the interviewer so in some ways you may not show your true self. Let's say for example you normally curse during general conversation. You obviously can't do that in an interview....so in essence you're not being your true self....

Or maybe it's just that we all have more than one "true" self and we can use whichever one is needed for the occasion.

-

-

Shaolin325 said:

imago said:

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

Is he not being himself or is he just trying to put his "best face" forward? Think of it like a job interview. You're doing your best to impress the interviewer so in some ways you may not show your true self. Let's say for example you normally curse during general conversation. You obviously can't do that in an interview....so in essence you're not being your true self....

Or maybe it's just that we all have more than one "true" self and we can use whichever one is needed for the occasion.

-

-

^-

-You know, i have seen some interviews of Prince and he gets into some trance, his eyes seem to go off into space or something.

imago said:

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

I think I remember this! I think Prince's looks after Carson's comments seemed to me to be the nervous type too. Like "oh shit, did I just do that?" Yeah one of the few times he lost his cool. That always struck me as weird coming from Prince too.

imago said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

^-

-What year was this, what was he promoting, a record?

Rave Un2 the Joy fantastic was the album he was promoting.

Bitch gets on TRL live and starts talking about how cool his upcoming show as goign to

be because he would have Chaka friggen Khan and Larry Graham there.

and before some asshole starts in on the fact that they're legends, my point is

what was Prince expecting from going on TRL and talking about oldschool shit.

Did he even know who his audience would be?

[Edited 8/18/11 20:16pm]

Obviously not if he thought the kids on MTV actually knew who the hell he was talking about.

Militant said:

not this again.

I think, like a great deal of us, Prince thinks liberally on certain issues and conservatively on others.

Sometimes things, or people, or events, happen to us that makes us change to a different way of thinking one way or the other.

imago said:

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

I remember that interview, I taped it. But I didn’t perceive it quite like that.

Carson called a lot of “today’s” music (as of ’99) disposable, to which Prince asked “What’s disposable music?” with a playfully quizzical smile on his face. I feel Prince was being a bit of a defender of all music if not a supporter (I don’t think he cared for the word ‘disposable’). Then when Carson explained what he meant: ‘Prince music’ is long-lasting and everything else on TRL is here today, gone tomorrow, Prince (imo) playfully puts MTV on blast by asking “You don’t promote this disposable music?” again, with a smile on his face. And that’s when Carson gave the bartender/Jack & Coke analogy. Prince thought about it went “Ooooh, okay, alright” or something to that effect. I think Prince thought this was a clever response, although not exactly the one he would’ve liked to explore. So he left it at that.

In a TRL retrospective (I think that’s what it was) Carson was talking about this interview and felt odd when Prince asked him about promoting disposable music, but was real proud of his Jack & Coke retort. But I feel Carson sort of missed the heart of Prince’s point: He wasn’t questioning Carson Daly himself, he couldn’t care less about Carson Daly; He was questioning MTV. And since Carson described what ‘disposable’ music was to Prince, then why would MTV promote ‘disposable’ music.

But no, in my opinion, I didn’t perceive any smugness from Prince, or any smackdown from Carson Daly. Prince was just in the ‘playful wise man’ role and Carson took it slightly odd, but good-natured.

-Has Prince ever worn a bowtie?

_could you picture him in one?

-That would be some kind of Hot Topic in here.

bigbrother said:

People say how much Prince has changed since he became a JW but I suspect that he has always been a conservative at heart. The rebel of the Dirty Mind -1999 years was simply him putting on an act to stir up attention, which he has admitted in interviews ("a lot of bike-riding nude", I believe were his words).

Anybody else feeling this and if yes, does it affect your opinion of him?

I would guess Prince conducts himself, like the rest of us, in a manner consistent with the foundation constructed by his/our early environment. Minnesotta being in the north-midwest is certainly no California nor is it Mississippi. Conservative in the true sense does not seem like Prince.

I think Prince exhibits good family values, thoughtful citizenry, American Pride, entreprenurial skill and overall consideration for fellow man. He's also an entertainer. Its a fine line.

x

[Edited 8/22/11 0:16am]

sweething said:

bigbrother said:

People say how much Prince has changed since he became a JW but I suspect that he has always been a conservative at heart. The rebel of the Dirty Mind -1999 years was simply him putting on an act to stir up attention, which he has admitted in interviews ("a lot of bike-riding nude", I believe were his words).

Anybody else feeling this and if yes, does it affect your opinion of him?

I would guess Prince conducts himself, like the rest of us, in a manner consistent with the foundation constructed by his/our early environment. Minnesotta being in the north-midwest is certainly no California nor is it Mississippi. Conservative in the true sense does not seem like Prince.

I think Prince exhibits good family values, thoughtful citizenry, American Pride, entreprenurial skill and overall consideration for fellow man. He's also an entertainer. Its a fine line.

x

[Edited 8/22/11 0:16am]

^-

-That's interesting.

-I have always felt that Prince was MOST conservative when it came TO family values.

-Very much so.

-Like he would be the kind of guy that would demand that it be so.

_maybe I think this because of the two marriages that well, didn't work out so to speak.

MyJobIz2beCute said:

-Has Prince ever worn a bowtie?

_could you picture him in one?

-That would be some kind of Hot Topic in here.

Uh uh. Bowties look ugly on anybody (unless you're Marvin Gaye or something then that's cool I guess). I can't imagine Prince wearing a bowtie. I couldn't imagine him wearing one, especially the '70s ones where it's stark black under white ruffled shirts. YUCK.

KDN said:

imago said:

Prince has been in the closet about a great number of things.

The main thing is that nobody knows Prince.

I mean, when he's being interviewed, what you're seeing is a 'character' that

he portrays.

The one time I saw anything even remotely close to being 'real' was when he

slightly broke from character on MTV's TRL with Carson Daily.

Carson complimented Prince by saying "In a time of plastic music, yours truly

stands the test of time."

Prince must have misunderstood what Carson was trying to say, and live

on national television, he says, "What? What does that mean." with a real

catty expression.

Carson explained to him that much of current music was designed to be

quickly consumed and thrown away.

Prince then responds, with, "And you wouldn't have anything to do with that?"

with a very smug expression.

....at which point Carson gave him a smackdown essentially saying that he

was like a bartender. Whatever the callers ordered, he served. He may not

like the drink he's serving, but it's what they ordered.

Prince appeared really shifty and nervous during the smackdown. It was

VERY VERY unfomfortable to watch.

It was one of the only times I've ever seen Prince put in his place.

I remember that interview, I taped it. But I didn’t perceive it quite like that.

Carson called a lot of “today’s” music (as of ’99) disposable, to which Prince asked “What’s disposable music?” with a playfully quizzical smile on his face. I feel Prince was being a bit of a defender of all music if not a supporter (I don’t think he cared for the word ‘disposable’). Then when Carson explained what he meant: ‘Prince music’ is long-lasting and everything else on TRL is here today, gone tomorrow, Prince (imo) playfully puts MTV on blast by asking “You don’t promote this disposable music?” again, with a smile on his face. And that’s when Carson gave the bartender/Jack & Coke analogy. Prince thought about it went “Ooooh, okay, alright” or something to that effect. I think Prince thought this was a clever response, although not exactly the one he would’ve liked to explore. So he left it at that.

In a TRL retrospective (I think that’s what it was) Carson was talking about this interview and felt odd when Prince asked him about promoting disposable music, but was real proud of his Jack & Coke retort. But I feel Carson sort of missed the heart of Prince’s point: He wasn’t questioning Carson Daly himself, he couldn’t care less about Carson Daly; He was questioning MTV. And since Carson described what ‘disposable’ music was to Prince, then why would MTV promote ‘disposable’ music.

But no, in my opinion, I didn’t perceive any smugness from Prince, or any smackdown from Carson Daly. Prince was just in the ‘playful wise man’ role and Carson took it slightly odd, but good-natured.

Hmm... I do remember Prince asking those type of questions. It did seem kinda odd idk I have to look for it again in the near future.

Timmy84 said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

-Has Prince ever worn a bowtie?

_could you picture him in one?

-That would be some kind of Hot Topic in here.

Uh uh. Bowties look ugly on anybody (unless you're Marvin Gaye or something then that's cool I guess). I can't imagine Prince wearing a bowtie. I couldn't imagine him wearing one, especially the '70s ones where it's stark black under white ruffled shirts. YUCK.

-You are right, well maybe,

-I like bowties, like satin striped ones,

-But on Prince?

-I don't know but I do LOVE ties!

-I wonder if Prince wore a bowtie to his Prom?

-

MyJobIz2beCute said:

Timmy84 said:

Uh uh. Bowties look ugly on anybody (unless you're Marvin Gaye or something then that's cool I guess). I can't imagine Prince wearing a bowtie. I couldn't imagine him wearing one, especially the '70s ones where it's stark black under white ruffled shirts. YUCK.

-You are right, well maybe,

-I like bowties, like satin striped ones,

-But on Prince?

-I don't know but I do LOVE ties!

-I wonder if Prince wore a bowtie to his Prom?

-

Prince never went to prom, I don't think. Least to my knowledge.

Timmy84 said:

MyJobIz2beCute said:

-You are right, well maybe,

-I like bowties, like satin striped ones,

-But on Prince?

-I don't know but I do LOVE ties!

-I wonder if Prince wore a bowtie to his Prom?

-

Prince never went to prom, I don't think. Least to my knowledge.

^-

-Are you serious?!!

-Dam!

-I didn't know that.

MyJobIz2beCute said:

sweething said:

I would guess Prince conducts himself, like the rest of us, in a manner consistent with the foundation constructed by his/our early environment. Minnesotta being in the north-midwest is certainly no California nor is it Mississippi. Conservative in the true sense does not seem like Prince.

I think Prince exhibits good family values, thoughtful citizenry, American Pride, entreprenurial skill and overall consideration for fellow man. He's also an entertainer. Its a fine line.

x

[Edited 8/22/11 0:16am]

^-

-That's interesting.

-I have always felt that Prince was MOST conservative when it came TO family values.

-Very much so.

-Like he would be the kind of guy that would demand that it be so.

_maybe I think this because of the two marriages that well, didn't work out so to speak.

sorry, I have to laugh because "family values" is not really a term just for conservative republican types -- although they've made it that -- when I say "family values" I mean back in the day------------taking care of ones famly was first and foremost that's how we lived. People were concerned with society and their neighboors, not so much into materialistic things Moms and Dads biggest and best contribution were their children --- today, not so much.