Everyone talks about if/when/how Prince should release more material. Weather it's more studio stuff (new OR old) or it is releasing his live shows like Phish or Pearl Jam.

The bottom line is, Prince does not care about his fans. All he cares about is his payroll. EVERYONE has said he should release EVERYTHING, but to no avail.

If he did do this, it would not only put bootleggers like Sabotage and the others out of business for good; but it would actually be WORTH PAYING MONEY FOR HIS CLUB!

What Prince fan would not pay $10-$20 for a new Prince album? How about for each live show?

But he would rather play the hurt, slave musician.

This is the same guy who pulled the release of the Black Album days before release.

Tihs is the same guy who got bored with Sign "O" the Times and therefore gave up on what COULD have been his second best selling album.

This is the same guy who spent almost $1,000,000 on a Carmen Electra video!?!?!

This is the same guy who changed his name to a freakin' symbol, and because of it, became a public laughing stock.

This is the same guy who speaks in non-sensical lines to a simple yes or no question.

This is the same guy who wrote "slave" on his cheek for years to get the public to feel sorry for the little freakish symbol sportin millionaire.

This is the same guy who can't get someone to even operate the NPGMC, so "members" can get their orders.

This is the same guy who can't understand why he can't get a camel in Minnesota at 3:00am in the middle of January!

Do I need to go on?

This will not EVER happen. Prince will NEVER do the right thing EVER!

Go ahead people sound off! Am I that wrong, right on, or way off base?

Remember this is just MY opinion.

:UZI: RIAA

'nuff said.

chookalana said:

Fuckin' funny.

Prince always has and I believe always will just do his own thing. Which is cool.

Ahhh, don't be so mad! Prince is a strange guy who makes strange decisions, but on the other hand, what about the music? Eventhough he might not listen to his fans like we want him to, I bet he has good reasons for that. And if not, well, then just listen to his music!

yep he's a freakin' weirdo.

but, that's part of why i like him.

We asked for a piano album: We got a piano album
We asked for a live album: We got a live album(s)
We asked for minimal overdubs: Very little overdubs indeed...

He listens. A bit, a tiny bit...but still.

chookalana said:

That's IT!! Commit his ass!!!

Yes! I love it chookalana i back you 100% i seat hear day in and day out listen to fam's talk so highly of prince like prince was God man we need more fam's like you to put the pressure on prince to put out good music he still can empty room is proof the rainbow children is prince weakest lyrical album ever yes ever i have been a fam for 20yr's went to the ona this past yr. was blown away by the santana medley only to not show up on the ona live which makes me wonder about the dvd coming out will anything be left off from the vegas show i should'nt feel this way people talk so high on prince like he is up for a grammy this yr.

rg770 said:

WTF?!? I can't fucking read that!

Cloudbuster said:

I still don't understand that camel-thing...what does it mean?

I get a kick out of Prince fans buying into calling themselves "fams". You don't treat family the way Prince treats his fans. How many of you would fall over if your Mom started charging you a $100 to join her club?

SassyPants said:

I don't get your argument. Prince shouldn't charge his fans to buy his music?
Club members or not, somehow he has to pay for the expensive costs of mass producing the CD's he sells, producing the music, pay his band members, keep Paisley going, etc etc.

Obviously, he is fairly wealthy, but he's be poor in 5 yrs if he suddenly started paying for everything out of his own pocket without charging anyone.

BTW, if any one of my family members is over 18 and still living in my mother's home she'd sure as hell be charging rent to be in her 'club'.

XNY said:

YES! BRILLIANTLY PUT...THANK U
always want want want and no give give give...,...

XNY said:

i'm sayin...

anyway--the "will never listen" statement sounds...welp, spoiled brat-ish as phuc. the brotha can't be everything 2 everyone. true, he's notorious 4 rippin folks right the phuc off, but dayum....





chump change edit.
[This message was edited Wed Feb 12 9:06:29 PST 2003 by Handclapsfingasnapz]

Everything chookalana said makes perfect sense. Name change, slave thing, chaotic releases, NPGMC...
I totally agree... with the title too. P will never listen to his fans and he'll go on with his foolish moves, but we'll keep on loving him anyway, won't we?

XNY said:

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Point is Prince charges you to join the club and oftentimes charges you for the music on top of that fee. Oftentimes, the club members pay more than the regular record-buying public. Example - I direct-ordered "Crystal Ball" for $60 through 1-800-NEW-FUNK. I saw it in a store months before I received mine and for $10 less. Same thing happened to NPGMC members with the One Night Alone box set. I'm not opposed to artists getting paid, but he got rid of his major label representation and it quickly became a lot more expensive to be a Prince fan. His personal cut went up (bravo for him), but so did the prices. Unfortunately, the quality, frequency and service went down. The ones who get gouged are the dedicated, hardcore fans -- not the casual record buyer. That, in my opinion, is no way to treat "family." P.S. I don't live at home. I spend too much time at your mama's.

Why would Prince listen to his fans? We're a bunch of losers anyway

ian said:

damn skippy...

Im not a losser speak for yourself

rg770 said:

grabs red correction pen...that's with one 's', man!!!

rg770 said:

AMEN

chookalana said:

Look in the mirror and ask yourself what you've done with your life.


- The Enemy Is You

His antics were amusing in the past because in the end you could laugh it off and say "but look at the amazing music he's creating".

Nowdays I can't really even say that.

I like a track or two here and there but thats about it.

A fan: "Hey prince of the robot release a har rock album

-I will

-For free ok, like the rest of your stuff

-I will... And the electronic brain blows...

No Bors and Sistas Prince is human... What would you do in his position and for Grod's sake stop complaining sometimes it goes far beyond the lands of understanding and common sense...

chookalana said:

sniff sniff...this thread smells a lil fishy as in chum as in BAIT but what the heck...I'm hungry!
I think you have waded out far too deep! you should swim paralle with the waves and you'll be able to touch ground in no time, don't panic, just swim parallel, every thing will be alight!
I'm sorry...I don't mean to pick on you...I was only trying to have some fun! LOL ok ok enough already.
come on man! those are some pretty harsh words to say bout someone you DO NOT personally know! yeah, we can sit here all day saying Prince doesn't do this or that or does do this or eat that! ugh! bottom line is you really can't say Prince doesn't care about his fans...cause you don't know that for a fact. Just like I can't really say, for fact, that you don't appreaciate what music you do have, just by reading your post. Right?
What has he not released that you really want? go ahead...say it! ya neva know..he just might listen to ya

XNY said:

No, what I am saying is that if you are going to charge people $100 for joining a club. You better make sure they get what you promised. You know, Pre-releases on ONA Live (pre-release means BEFORE it is sold in stores), release the albums you promoted, and give your fans (there's not that many left in the world) what they want and what they are told.

HE HAS TO CHARGE FOR HIS CLUB. That's not what is in question here. IF HE DIDN'T, HE COULD NOT SURVIVE.

What I am saying if he gave us what we asked for, HE WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY $$$

:UZI: RIAA

'nuff said.

Shorty said:

Okay, first of all I REALLY DO APPREACIATE HIS MUSIC. I listen to more Prince than everything else combined.

What I am trying to convey is Prince HATES bootleggers, Phish, The Gratefull Dead, Dave Matthews, alot of bands support bootlegging. If Prince does not support them (it's his right) give his fans what THEY WANT and Sabotage would not exist. Simple as that.

Are you going to by a Prince Soundboard Live recording, or an average to poor sounding audience recording from Mr. Bootlegger?

Problem solved, and now Prince is making all the money, much more money than ever, and NOT Sabotage.

And your fans will be happy as a sponge on Jennifer Love Hewitt's wet bathing body.

RIAA

'nuff said.

Get over it now because you are NEVER going to be happy. Even if Prince were to release whatever you wanted you find a reason to complain. You'll complain that the funkiest song on the cd doesn't have a good guitar solo then you'll compain about the hardest rocking track not being funky enough. You'll caomplain about the artwork, or how long it took to arrive in the mail, or how there were no singles or videos released for the album, you'll complain about no tour or insufficient promotion. You'll complain that it wasn't commercial enough for a Grammy nomination but if he were nominated for a Grammy you'd accuse him of selling out. You should learn to appreciate what you have and be thankful that the greatest singer/song writer/musician in history is here NOW in our lifetime to experience and enjoy first hand. If you don't like the way he operates or the music he makes then DON'T LISTEN anymore.

Life is simple, the LittlePill way.

abierman said:

'An Evening With Kevin Smith'

Available on DVD. He talks about meetin and working with Prince. It's from that.

chookalana said:

Co-sign, except change change Jennifer Love Hewitt to Gwen Stefani...

Seriously, the Grateful Dead built a non-commercial EMPIRE and a rabid loyal fanbase with this exact approach. They ENCOURAGED soundboard recordings at their shows, gave a different one every night and never cow-towed to MTV, radio stations or record companies. They had the most loyal and dedicated fanbase in the world, sold out everywhere they played, made millions and never came close to being as polished or as developed musically as Prince is.

"Free the music"
[This message was edited Wed Feb 12 10:33:52 PST 2003 by herb4]

chookalana said:

I didn't say you didn't apprecaite his music, I said it wouldn't be right for me to say that about you because I don't know you personally. get it?
ok...well, I agree that I would love him to release more live material..that is not what I had a problem with. I had a problem with you saying Prince doesn't care about his fans, he only cares about the money, to which I was trying to say that you really don't know him personally so you shouldn't say Prince doesn't care about his fans. He may not have released every single thing every single fan ever wanted...but that does not mean he doesn't care. it also doesn't mean he does.
I think the ONA Live set is a step in the right direction...right? what do you think?
It's one thing to want the man to release more live music..it's entirely another thing to put words in his mouth because you're not happy with the output.