Thread started 08/06/11 11:04amBoySimon |
The split screen When Doves Cry video... I do hope that Prince has since sacked the person who considered this a good look. He obviously hadn't fired him by the time the official video of the Purple Rain Tour was made, but I sincerely that Prince had a sit down chat with the guy and handed him his P45.
The video is SO spoiled, so destroyed by a botched attempted at SFX it's untrue.
One of the most iconic moments in music history ruined by a video editor's ambition.
Is there a version of the video out there without the split screen; where you can see Prince dance and Wendy perform the guitar solo? |
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Reply #1 posted 08/06/11 12:01pm
TheDigitalGard ener |
This show (as you may already know) was broadcast on tv before it gained an official release.
The broadcast version did not have the mirror/split image during When Doves Cry.
Afaik the broadcast version is not in general circulation.
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Reply #2 posted 08/06/11 1:06pm
unique 
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TheDigitalGardener said:
This show (as you may already know) was broadcast on tv before it gained an official release.
The broadcast version did not have the mirror/split image during When Doves Cry.
Afaik the broadcast version is not in general circulation.
i have the when doves cry section without the mirroring. as it's just the one track no-one has bothered putting the rest of the show on dvd. i can't remember if there were other camera angle differences between broadcast and release, like the lovesexy live |
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Reply #3 posted 08/06/11 1:10pm
TheDigitalGard ener |
unique said:
TheDigitalGardener said:
This show (as you may already know) was broadcast on tv before it gained an official release.
The broadcast version did not have the mirror/split image during When Doves Cry.
Afaik the broadcast version is not in general circulation.
i have the when doves cry section without the mirroring. as it's just the one track no-one has bothered putting the rest of the show on dvd. i can't remember if there were other camera angle differences between broadcast and release, like the lovesexy live
I have it too (the one track), but the quality is not that great.
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Reply #4 posted 08/06/11 2:02pm
armpit 
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BoySimon said:
I do hope that Prince has since sacked the person who considered this a good look. He obviously hadn't fired him by the time the official video of the Purple Rain Tour was made, but I sincerely that Prince had a sit down chat with the guy and handed him his P45.
The video is SO spoiled, so destroyed by a botched attempted at SFX it's untrue.
One of the most iconic moments in music history ruined by a video editor's ambition.
Is there a version of the video out there without the split screen; where you can see Prince dance and Wendy perform the guitar solo?
It's a bad special effect sure, but it actually works in the video. That's my favorite part. "I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day |
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Reply #5 posted 08/06/11 8:25pm
BoySimon |
No, no, no... it's horrible! The off centre nature split makes it worse.
Brownmark's lacklustre dancing is also quite funny to watch... it's like, "Ok, look I'll walk this way, then spin my arm and then throw both arms in the air... OK, now I'll walk this way, spin my and throw... oh, the song's still going on... I'd better do it again... I haven't walked this way yet... Hey, how come Wendy gets to play guitar and not to this dance...? Oh, look, Prince nearly fell over... that's funny... Shit, I'd better spin my arm again..."
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Reply #6 posted 08/06/11 8:26pm
BoySimon |
Oh, and thanks for those who have pointed out that a non-split screen version of the Syracuse concert exists... I must go a-hunting! |
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Reply #7 posted 08/06/11 8:35pm
SoulAlive |
I love the split screen! It might look silly now,but in 1984 it was really cool."When Doves Cry" is one of Prince's best videos. |
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Reply #8 posted 08/06/11 8:38pm
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BoySimon said:
No, no, no... it's horrible! The off centre nature split makes it worse.
Brownmark's lacklustre dancing is also quite funny to watch... it's like, "Ok, look I'll walk this way, then spin my arm and then throw both arms in the air... OK, now I'll walk this way, spin my and throw... oh, the song's still going on... I'd better do it again... I haven't walked this way yet... Hey, how come Wendy gets to play guitar and not to this dance...? Oh, look, Prince nearly fell over... that's funny... Shit, I'd better spin my arm again..."

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Reply #9 posted 08/06/11 8:53pm
TheFreakerFant astic 
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babyjubilation said:
BoySimon said:
No, no, no... it's horrible! The off centre nature split makes it worse.
Brownmark's lacklustre dancing is also quite funny to watch... it's like, "Ok, look I'll walk this way, then spin my arm and then throw both arms in the air... OK, now I'll walk this way, spin my and throw... oh, the song's still going on... I'd better do it again... I haven't walked this way yet... Hey, how come Wendy gets to play guitar and not to this dance...? Oh, look, Prince nearly fell over... that's funny... Shit, I'd better spin my arm again..."

I think the worst vid is prob the one for SOTT - those graphics look so amateur and simple now. |
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Reply #10 posted 08/06/11 9:09pm
Spinlight 
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I don't mind the stupid split screen or the cheezball graphics on SOTT, but I cannot stand the clothing, colors, or editing on 3 Chains o Gold. |
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Reply #11 posted 08/06/11 9:15pm
abigail05 |
The split screen is on the edge of being annoying, but it's so psychedelic and 60's to me that I can't help but love it. |
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Reply #12 posted 08/06/11 9:47pm
unique 
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Spinlight said:
I don't mind the stupid split screen or the cheezball graphics on SOTT, but I cannot stand the clothing, colors, or editing on 3 Chains o Gold.
that was the 90s. if you remember it you weren't there |
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Reply #13 posted 08/07/11 7:18am
802 |
What makes it annoying is that you have to put up with it for 8 FUCKING MINUTES!!!!!!!  |
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Reply #14 posted 08/07/11 6:41pm
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So I haven't seen this live video, but I remember reading in DMSR that Prince was the one who found the mirror-effect on the original video and went crazy with it.
Just so ya know... |
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Reply #15 posted 08/07/11 7:00pm
DecaturStone |
I wish Prince would let Warner release the Live video for those of who want it. I don't care if the split screen is there or not
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Reply #16 posted 08/07/11 7:16pm
unique 
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DecaturStone said:
I wish Prince would let Warner release the Live video for those of who want it. I don't care if the split screen is there or not
it was released officially on video and laserdisc by warners
and more recently it was released on dvd. checkout amazon. it's got a stupid name like prince alive or something |
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Reply #17 posted 08/07/11 10:06pm
DecaturStone |
unique said:
DecaturStone said:
I wish Prince would let Warner release the Live video for those of who want it. I don't care if the split screen is there or not
it was released officially on video and laserdisc by warners
and more recently it was released on dvd. checkout amazon. it's got a stupid name like prince alive or something
dont play with my emotions  |
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Reply #18 posted 08/08/11 2:15am
babyjubilation |
CerpinTaxt said:
So I haven't seen this live video, but I remember reading in DMSR that Prince was the one who found the mirror-effect on the original video and went crazy with it.
Just so ya know...
iI betcha he has a mac and goes crazy with the photobooth app like a little child 
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Reply #19 posted 08/08/11 2:59pm
alphastreet |
It doesn't bother me. I was a kid in the 80's when I discovered the video and used to laugh really hard when Prince was screaming and then started "spinning and disappeared" I'll always love it for that and can never grow out of it |
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Reply #20 posted 08/08/11 4:32pm
prime 
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SoulAlive said:
I love the split screen! It might look silly now,but in 1984 it was really cool."When Doves Cry" is one of Prince's best videos.
Right. It was 1984 and back than it was a tight video. Actually, today it still isn't that bad compared to other videos he has made. I didn't realize it was a special camera until I got older, so I thought the concert was amazing (I was 6 at the time).
Think about it....is Thriller that great of a video (today)? In 1983 it was shown every 5 mins on Mtv.... Prime aka The Kid
"I need u to dance, I need u to strip
I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips
I need u to grind like Ur working for tips
And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE" |
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Reply #21 posted 08/08/11 4:58pm
afro75 
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BoySimon said:
I do hope that Prince has since sacked the person who considered this a good look. He obviously hadn't fired him by the time the official video of the Purple Rain Tour was made, but I sincerely that Prince had a sit down chat with the guy and handed him his P45.
The video is SO spoiled, so destroyed by a botched attempted at SFX it's untrue.
One of the most iconic moments in music history ruined by a video editor's ambition.
Is there a version of the video out there without the split screen; where you can see Prince dance and Wendy perform the guitar solo?
Get the book "Video Slut", by Sharon Oreck. She produced a lot of major music videos during the "Golden Age". Her book goes into great and hilarious detail about the filming of the "When Doves Cry" video. Apparently during post-production, Prince had the director fired and started playing around the video SFX. So maybe Prince should've fired himself, 
The book is funny and extremely snarky towards some of the big stars she worked with. As evidenced by the Amazon.com reviews, that has gotten under the skin of some Michael Jackson fans,  ~Using the Fat Albert emoticon 'cause no one else is...  ~ |
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Reply #22 posted 08/08/11 11:57pm
Spinlight 
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unique said:
Spinlight said:
I don't mind the stupid split screen or the cheezball graphics on SOTT, but I cannot stand the clothing, colors, or editing on 3 Chains o Gold.
that was the 90s. if you remember it you weren't there
Wat? I'm not even sure what that means. Regardless of it "being the 90s" - its hideous and it was always pretty hideous. |
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Reply #23 posted 08/09/11 4:12pm
abigail05 |
afro75 said:
BoySimon said:
I do hope that Prince has since sacked the person who considered this a good look. He obviously hadn't fired him by the time the official video of the Purple Rain Tour was made, but I sincerely that Prince had a sit down chat with the guy and handed him his P45.
The video is SO spoiled, so destroyed by a botched attempted at SFX it's untrue.
One of the most iconic moments in music history ruined by a video editor's ambition.
Is there a version of the video out there without the split screen; where you can see Prince dance and Wendy perform the guitar solo?
Get the book "Video Slut", by Sharon Oreck. She produced a lot of major music videos during the "Golden Age". Her book goes into great and hilarious detail about the filming of the "When Doves Cry" video. Apparently during post-production, Prince had the director fired and started playing around the video SFX. So maybe Prince should've fired himself, 
WDC may be a "spoiled" video by the standards of pro videographers, but as a fan I completely get it. I don't really give a shit if I can't see Wendy play her solo. It was an exciting, psychedelic time for Prince, and pretty much everything he did rocked. Do I think Hendrix would have dug it? I do. |
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Reply #24 posted 08/12/11 11:40am
BoySimon |
Yeah, no; it's just been in MTV Clasic again and it looks absolutely awful. Sorry. |
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