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Reply #60 posted 08/03/11 8:37pm

sweething

lol I became enthralled with the song itself, didn't compare it to fury have to listen again.

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Reply #61 posted 08/04/11 4:59am

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KeithyT said:

TylerHippie, you see that Google Custom Search box up there in the top right?

Type Fury Hendrix into it and have a read of some of the resulting org threads. You are not as alone as you might think from the responses on here so far...

Thank you. I don't fully hear it, but the same depressed people have to spit their crap as they're behind a screen and can exercise their demons that way. No way would people be this rude face to face. The stupidity of the internet. Lastly, he hears it, others do too...it's all idiosyncratic.

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Reply #62 posted 08/04/11 5:01am

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[Edited 8/4/11 5:02am]

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Reply #63 posted 08/04/11 5:06am

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vitriol said:

TylerHippie said:

They sound the same.

eek

[img:$uid]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/bigjim99/qtip.jpg[/img:$uid]

This whole picture/gif response crap....i mean wtf?! It's useless, embarrassing and childish. Go to Music: Other Artists and post that shit. Also, cotton sticks actually damage your ears more than clean them, maybe that's why you're unable to hear good music today, if this is any indication of you.
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Reply #64 posted 08/04/11 5:38am

TylerHippie

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WetDream said:

vitriol said:

eek

[img:$uid]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/bigjim99/qtip.jpg[/img:$uid]

This whole picture/gif response crap....i mean wtf?! It's useless, embarrassing and childish. Go to Music: Other Artists and post that shit. Also, cotton sticks actually damage your ears more than clean them, maybe that's why you're unable to hear good music today, if this is any indication of you.

cool Your schooling them.

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Reply #65 posted 08/04/11 6:01am

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WetDream said:

vitriol said:

eek

[img:$uid]http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb79/bigjim99/qtip.jpg[/img:$uid]

This whole picture/gif response crap....i mean wtf?! It's useless, embarrassing and childish. Go to Music: Other Artists and post that shit. Also, cotton sticks actually damage your ears more than clean them, maybe that's why you're unable to hear good music today, if this is any indication of you.

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/ji022d.gif[/img:$uid]

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Reply #66 posted 08/04/11 6:16am

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black man + guitar = cliched hendrix comparisons. wink

Add to that, the blues (and rock blues) follow very similar patterns. Traditional Blues is a I-IV-V, and although rock-blues moves the structure around a bit more the solo patterns are typically on the minor pentatonic scale.

Pop songs follow similar patterns as well - like a I-V-vi-IV. Following is a very funny video demonstrating a HUGE list of songs following this pattern (all transposed to the key of E, so the pattern would be E-B-C#m-A ) - starts off silly, so give it a chance until the music starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

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[Edited 8/4/11 6:18am]

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Reply #67 posted 08/04/11 6:28am

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TylerHippie said:

Timmy84 said:

Nope. lol

Exactly.

The confusion I think on this conversation is the word 'sound'. Black and White only 'sounds' like Alphabet street due to the construction and layout of the song, which is not uncommon. The 'sound' relating to instrumentation, delivery, style and lyric really couldn't 'sound' more different. You could say that Alphabet St sounds like a ton of other songs that were written in the same pattern, but in reality, it doesn't really.

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Reply #68 posted 08/04/11 6:31am

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vman4639 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

black man + guitar = cliched hendrix comparisons. wink

Add to that, the blues (and rock blues) follow very similar patterns. Traditional Blues is a I-IV-V, and although rock-blues moves the structure around a bit more the solo patterns are typically on the minor pentatonic scale.

Pop songs follow similar patterns as well - like a I-V-vi-IV. Following is a very funny video demonstrating a HUGE list of songs following this pattern (all transposed to the key of E, so the pattern would be E-B-C#m-A ) - starts off silly, so give it a chance until the music starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

[Edited 8/4/11 6:17am]

[Edited 8/4/11 6:18am]

Sorry, hadn't read your post, which was rather more detailed, but I think says the same thing wink

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Reply #69 posted 08/04/11 7:51am

vman4639

jasontate said:

vman4639 said:

Add to that, the blues (and rock blues) follow very similar patterns. Traditional Blues is a I-IV-V, and although rock-blues moves the structure around a bit more the solo patterns are typically on the minor pentatonic scale.

Pop songs follow similar patterns as well - like a I-V-vi-IV. Following is a very funny video demonstrating a HUGE list of songs following this pattern (all transposed to the key of E, so the pattern would be E-B-C#m-A ) - starts off silly, so give it a chance until the music starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I

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[Edited 8/4/11 6:18am]

Sorry, hadn't read your post, which was rather more detailed, but I think says the same thing wink

OK - so I just listened and tried to figure out structurally where TylerHippie is hearing a similarity. I am away from my guitar (at work) - so I hope this is correct. I did a little searching and I think I am at least close.

Hendrix "All Along the Watchtower" is in C#m, and pretty much follows: C# B A B (although he is typically tuned down a half step).

Prince "Fury" can be considered in Gm, and pretty much follows: Gm7 F Cm7 Gm7 F

So although the chord patterns are different (I vii vi vii) vs (I vii iv I vii) both use a jump from the root (I) to the seventh (vii). This used over and over does creat a certain vibe and may be what TylerHippie is hearing......

Or - I could be completely wrong - just having some fun trying to figure it out.....

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Reply #70 posted 08/04/11 7:56am

imago

I immediately thought of Hendrix when I heard this song on SNL.

He didn't even bother to make cover it up--it's very obviously Hendrix influenced.

What makes it non-Hendrix like is the production and the synth.

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Reply #71 posted 08/04/11 8:25am

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Everyone agrees that Delirious sounds like Hound dog thought, right fryingpan

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Reply #72 posted 08/04/11 8:40am

vman4639

jasontate said:

Everyone agrees that Delirious sounds like Hound dog thought, right fryingpan

Actually I had not heard that before - but based on your post I guess that's a common one. You can hear it - same chords....

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Reply #73 posted 08/04/11 9:35am

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vman4639 said:



jasontate said:




vman4639 said:




Add to that, the blues (and rock blues) follow very similar patterns. Traditional Blues is a I-IV-V, and although rock-blues moves the structure around a bit more the solo patterns are typically on the minor pentatonic scale.



Pop songs follow similar patterns as well - like a I-V-vi-IV. Following is a very funny video demonstrating a HUGE list of songs following this pattern (all transposed to the key of E, so the pattern would be E-B-C#m-A ) - starts off silly, so give it a chance until the music starts.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I


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[Edited 8/4/11 6:18am]





Sorry, hadn't read your post, which was rather more detailed, but I think says the same thing wink




OK - so I just listened and tried to figure out structurally where TylerHippie is hearing a similarity. I am away from my guitar (at work) - so I hope this is correct. I did a little searching and I think I am at least close.



Hendrix "All Along the Watchtower" is in C#m, and pretty much follows: C# B A B (although he is typically tuned down a half step).



Prince "Fury" can be considered in Gm, and pretty much follows: Gm7 F Cm7 Gm7 F



So although the chord patterns are different (I vii vi vii) vs (I vii iv I vii) both use a jump from the root (I) to the seventh (vii). This used over and over does creat a certain vibe and may be what TylerHippie is hearing.....



Or - I could be completely wrong - just having some fun trying to figure it out.....




[Edited 8/4/11 8:28am]



Your almost right!

But do you notice how after every verse, both songs kick into "overdrive"(I'm talking about vibe/speed)?
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Reply #74 posted 08/04/11 11:09am

Xibalba

TylerHippie said:

They sound the same.

falloff

No....they don't.

neutral

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Reply #75 posted 08/04/11 5:20pm

Timmy84

Spinlight said:

WetDream said:

This whole picture/gif response crap....i mean wtf?! It's useless, embarrassing and childish. Go to Music: Other Artists and post that shit. Also, cotton sticks actually damage your ears more than clean them, maybe that's why you're unable to hear good music today, if this is any indication of you.

[img:$uid]http://i53.tinypic.com/ji022d.gif[/img:$uid]

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Reply #76 posted 08/04/11 9:52pm

derrick31

TylerHippie said:

funkaholic1972 said:

I don't think they sound the same, but I can definately hear a Hendrix influence in Fury. And yes, the Lotusflower album has a few very strongly Hendrix influenced tracks too.

Maybe what I'm trying to say is that they have the same structure. No words during the chorus.

They both solo during the chorus.

No

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Reply #77 posted 08/05/11 10:41am

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Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

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falloff

lol Seriously? U ALL STILL HERE? Haha

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Reply #78 posted 08/05/11 11:02am

Gohi

TylerHippie said:

Spinlight said:

So do people stricken with down's syndrome.

Not at all.

Yeah they do.

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Reply #79 posted 08/05/11 11:09am

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Gohi said:

TylerHippie said:

Not at all.

Yeah they do.

I'm quit positive they don't.

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Reply #80 posted 08/05/11 11:12am

Gohi

TylerHippie said:

Gohi said:

Yeah they do.

I'm quit positive they don't.

lol

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Reply #81 posted 08/05/11 4:17pm

derrick31

KeithyT said:

TylerHippie, you see that Google Custom Search box up there in the top right?

Type Fury Hendrix into it and have a read of some of the resulting org threads. You are not as alone as you might think from the responses on here so far...

They were wrong too.

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Reply #82 posted 08/05/11 8:47pm

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derrick31 said:

KeithyT said:

TylerHippie, you see that Google Custom Search box up there in the top right?

Type Fury Hendrix into it and have a read of some of the resulting org threads. You are not as alone as you might think from the responses on here so far...

They were wrong too.

yeahthat

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Reply #83 posted 08/06/11 8:53am

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Saying Fury is a version of All along the watch tower is like saying Johnny Bravo is someones version of Bugs Bunny. Yeah...they all have a couple of similar elements but are all DISTINCTLY different and unique in a VAST number of ways.

I could possibly say Animal Kingdom(I HATE this song btw...i never pass a chance to say so either...it's my life mission to have ALL copies destroyed) is Prince's version of Sex Machine(Sly Stone). But IT'S NOT. They use a similar tone modulation, ...but thats as FAR a it goes. One might want to say the bass line in Sex Machine(Sly Stone) inspired The Ride. Whats more factual is that they're BOTH fairly typical blues bass expressions.

Next thing that's gonna happen in this thread is somone then drawing a conclusin that The Ride and Animal Kingdom are remixes of the same song. Bullocks.

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