Emancipation89 said:

Yeah the ones who always talk like "Oh I miss the old Prince, he's not the same person anymore, everything he puts out these days is nothing but shit" -_- Ugh. But the thing is most of them are obsessed enough to at least sit in front of a computer and spend hours just to talk shit about Prince on this website. DAILY!!! I guess they're beyond obsessed that they just can't let it go...So in a way, they're real fans . They just can't admit or don't realize how obsessed they are.

don't be a fucking smart arse. there are loonies so sycophantic that if prince walked on stage into the spotlight, dropped his trousers, bent over and wiped his arsehole, then took the sheet of shitty toilet paper and threw it into the crowd, they'd trample children to death to get it. now go and listen to 2010 and i'll go listen to around the world in a day, i reckon most folk would agree i've got the better deal.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

Emancipation89 said:

Yeah the ones who always talk like "Oh I miss the old Prince, he's not the same person anymore, everything he puts out these days is nothing but shit" -_- Ugh. But the thing is most of them are obsessed enough to at least sit in front of a computer and spend hours just to talk shit about Prince on this website. DAILY!!! I guess they're beyond obsessed that they just can't let it go...So in a way, they're real fans . They just can't admit or don't realize how obsessed they are.

don't be a fucking smart arse. there are loonies so sycophantic that if prince walked on stage into the spotlight, dropped his trousers, bent over and wiped his arsehole, then took the sheet of shitty toilet paper and threw it into the crowd, they'd trample children to death to get it. now go and listen to 2010 and i'll go listen to around the world in a day, i reckon most folk would agree i've got the better deal.

Yay! My favorite album

robertgeorgeakabob said:

Emancipation89 said:

Yeah the ones who always talk like "Oh I miss the old Prince, he's not the same person anymore, everything he puts out these days is nothing but shit" -_- Ugh. But the thing is most of them are obsessed enough to at least sit in front of a computer and spend hours just to talk shit about Prince on this website. DAILY!!! I guess they're beyond obsessed that they just can't let it go...So in a way, they're real fans . They just can't admit or don't realize how obsessed they are.

don't be a fucking smart arse. there are loonies so sycophantic that if prince walked on stage into the spotlight, dropped his trousers, bent over and wiped his arsehole, then took the sheet of shitty toilet paper and threw it into the crowd, they'd trample children to death to get it. now go and listen to 2010 and i'll go listen to around the world in a day, i reckon most folk would agree i've got the better deal.

No, I WILL be a fucking smart arse here. No need for exaggeration. U find those who like EVERYTHING Prince does annoying as fuck and I find those who complain about EVERYTHING Prince does these days beyond annoying. Deal with it.

powersoul99 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

thankyou! i barely like anything he's done since '96, i think his live shows are stale and lazy and he's an egocentric arsehole, so some would say i'm a "hater". but on the other hand, i have 58 ticket stubs from '88-'98 and i play his music virtually every day. i think that qualifies me as a "fan"! i mean, if people insist on putting "everybody loves me" appreciation threads up, or "which do u prefer? sign o the times or planet earth?" then what do these numptys expect to hear?

many thanks for your well thoughtout, reasoned, intelligent response.

Emancipation89 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

don't be a fucking smart arse. there are loonies so sycophantic that if prince walked on stage into the spotlight, dropped his trousers, bent over and wiped his arsehole, then took the sheet of shitty toilet paper and threw it into the crowd, they'd trample children to death to get it. now go and listen to 2010 and i'll go listen to around the world in a day, i reckon most folk would agree i've got the better deal.

No, I WILL be a fucking smart arse here. No need for exaggeration. U find those who like EVERYTHING Prince does annoying as fuck and I find those who complain about EVERYTHING Prince does these days beyond annoying. Deal with it.

you've just admitted you're a smart arse, truest thing you've said, and the worrying thing is i don't think i was exaggerating. deal with it

robertgeorgeakabob said:

Emancipation89 said:

No, I WILL be a fucking smart arse here. No need for exaggeration. U find those who like EVERYTHING Prince does annoying as fuck and I find those who complain about EVERYTHING Prince does these days beyond annoying. Deal with it.

you've just admitted you're a smart arse, truest thing you've said, and the worrying thing is i don't think i was exaggerating. deal with it

Yeah because someday Prince really will walk on stage into the spotlight, drop his trousers, bend over and wipe his asshole, then take the sheet of shitty toilet paper and throw it into the crowd. And yeah, people WILL trample children to death to get it. U just keep telling yourself that and thinking you're at least better than those non-exsiting fanatics who are living in your head.

Oh good, another pissing contest on who's the biggest fan.

TheDigitalGardener said:

People are entitled to criticize what or who they want to.

To even think that someone can only be a "real fan" if they do not complain is a very narrow minded and worrying attitude, it's not healthy and it's not realistic.

And don't even think about saying that people complain about "everything" because if you actually pay attention you will find that that too is untrue and an unrealistic comment.

Good day.

...I think you see what you want to see, because honestly - when I first started hanging out here years ago, I was taken aback at just HOW frequently and viciously Prince fans bash Prince.

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community. Again - I think most people are in agreement that worshipping any musical artist and thinking they can do no wrong is absolutely lame - so that isn't what I'm speaking on. I'm not saying people shouldn't have the right to disagree with comments Prince makes, or give their honest views when it comes to the music - if you don't like something, you don't like it, and have every right to express that.

I'm speaking on the fact that 80 percent of the time I come to this section, the general tone is extremely, extremely negative toward Prince; going beyond mere disagreement to outright insulting, berating, attacking.... if the header of this site didn't say 'fan community', I'd have never guessed in a million years that you guys consider yourselves 'fans' - that's how hostile you guys come across. I've never gone onto any other fan forum and witnessed fans talking shit about the artist all.the.time, at this level of viciousness.

If I were Prince and read this place, I'd just throw up my hands and not give a fuck, pump you guys for as much money as I possibly could, then tell you to go fuck yourselves.

Emancipation89 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

you've just admitted you're a smart arse, truest thing you've said, and the worrying thing is i don't think i was exaggerating. deal with it

Yeah because someday Prince really will walk on stage into the spotlight, drop his trousers, bend over and wipe his asshole, then take the sheet of shitty toilet paper and throw it into the crowd. And yeah, people WILL trample children to death to get it. U just keep telling yourself that and thinking you're at least better than those non-exsiting fanatics who are living in your head.

i said "if" prince did it. you've just said he "will" do it. u haven't quite mastered sarcasm have u? u dig the hole and throw yourself in it and i'll just fill it in.

ps i wasn't making a point about prince, i was making it about u. thankyou, goodnight, much love from terry tibbs.

TylerHippie said:

They're are a lot of shit talking about people who critize Prince. They have the right to do it, at the end of the day, their a Prince fan. Get over it. I'm pretty sure everyone critized Rave and "Family Name", "The Arms Of Orion", "Wedding Feast" and 'Poom Poom". So shut up.

With that said, I have not complained about anything Prince has done since I've been a fan.

Why don't you shut your ignorant mouth up? Who says criticizing/complaining is not allowed at all? At least I'm talking about people who CONSTANTLY talk shit about Prince with the attitude of "He's finished. Long time ago. He's been musically dead for more than 15 years". I just don't get why they STILL waste their time coming to this website, listening to his new album just to talk shit.

So in your definition of a "real fan," people can't find fault with him at all? Sorry, but that doesn't wash. There is very obviously a range of fandom here, from the crazy zealots who think Prince can do no wrong, will name their children after characters in his songs & convert to his religion. They're the type who when you ask "What was Prince's worst song ever?" will answer "None of they above! He's the awesomest!" There are folks who got into Prince at various periods of his career & have come & gone & come back again based on their interest in that point of his career with little or no regard for his more recent output. And there are those who became disenchanted with the guy at some point, for whatever reason (there are no small number of reasons), but still appreciate his work. Negativity is part of reality.

armpit said:

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community.

And had you ever seen Prince's level of hostility towards his fanbase in any other artist?

Just askin'...

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[Edited 8/1/11 5:17am]

armpit said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

People are entitled to criticize what or who they want to.

To even think that someone can only be a "real fan" if they do not complain is a very narrow minded and worrying attitude, it's not healthy and it's not realistic.

And don't even think about saying that people complain about "everything" because if you actually pay attention you will find that that too is untrue and an unrealistic comment.

Good day.

...I think you see what you want to see, because honestly - when I first started hanging out here years ago, I was taken aback at just HOW frequently and viciously Prince fans bash Prince.

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community. Again - I think most people are in agreement that worshipping any musical artist and thinking they can do no wrong is absolutely lame - so that isn't what I'm speaking on. I'm not saying people shouldn't have the right to disagree with comments Prince makes, or give their honest views when it comes to the music - if you don't like something, you don't like it, and have every right to express that.

I'm speaking on the fact that 80 percent of the time I come to this section, the general tone is extremely, extremely negative toward Prince; going beyond mere disagreement to outright insulting, berating, attacking.... if the header of this site didn't say 'fan community', I'd have never guessed in a million years that you guys consider yourselves 'fans' - that's how hostile you guys come across. I've never gone onto any other fan forum and witnessed fans talking shit about the artist all.the.time, at this level of viciousness.

If I were Prince and read this place, I'd just throw up my hands and not give a fuck, pump you guys for as much money as I possibly could, then tell you to go fuck yourselves.

Hasn't he already done this? anyway although some of the hate is not needed Prince does leave himself wide open. There a some people who come here JUST to hate which i don't see the point, and we have lost some good peolp along the way due to this.

armpit said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

People are entitled to criticize what or who they want to.

To even think that someone can only be a "real fan" if they do not complain is a very narrow minded and worrying attitude, it's not healthy and it's not realistic.

And don't even think about saying that people complain about "everything" because if you actually pay attention you will find that that too is untrue and an unrealistic comment.

Good day.

...I think you see what you want to see, because honestly - when I first started hanging out here years ago, I was taken aback at just HOW frequently and viciously Prince fans bash Prince.

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community. Again - I think most people are in agreement that worshipping any musical artist and thinking they can do no wrong is absolutely lame - so that isn't what I'm speaking on. I'm not saying people shouldn't have the right to disagree with comments Prince makes, or give their honest views when it comes to the music - if you don't like something, you don't like it, and have every right to express that.

I'm speaking on the fact that 80 percent of the time I come to this section, the general tone is extremely, extremely negative toward Prince; going beyond mere disagreement to outright insulting, berating, attacking.... if the header of this site didn't say 'fan community', I'd have never guessed in a million years that you guys consider yourselves 'fans' - that's how hostile you guys come across. I've never gone onto any other fan forum and witnessed fans talking shit about the artist all.the.time, at this level of viciousness.

If I were Prince and read this place, I'd just throw up my hands and not give a fuck, pump you guys for as much money as I possibly could, then tell you to go fuck yourselves.

therein lies the problem, he's been doing it for years. you're right, people see what they wanna see, including u. how many fansites have u been on of an artist with a 35 year career, let alone an artist as diverse and contradictory as prince? none i would guess. with the body of work prince has put out its ridiculous to think his fans are gonna reach a general concensus.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

Emancipation89 said:

Yeah because someday Prince really will walk on stage into the spotlight, drop his trousers, bend over and wipe his asshole, then take the sheet of shitty toilet paper and throw it into the crowd. And yeah, people WILL trample children to death to get it. U just keep telling yourself that and thinking you're at least better than those non-exsiting fanatics who are living in your head.

i said "if" prince did it. you've just said he "will" do it. u haven't quite mastered sarcasm have u? u dig the hole and throw yourself in it and i'll just fill it in.

ps i wasn't making a point about prince, i was making it about u. thankyou, goodnight, much love from terry tibbs.

lol Yeah because when I said "he will" do all that shit you've said, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Really, I wasn't. Like, REEEEALLY.

It was nice talking to a delusional asshole. Good night to you too. Love, 20ten.

(Because when I said "I find those who talk shit about EVERYTHING Prince does these days ANNOYING, I secreatly meant I will listen to 20ten and not listen to Around the World in a Day. Just like you said ;D)

Emancipation89 said:

TylerHippie said:

They're are a lot of shit talking about people who critize Prince. They have the right to do it, at the end of the day, their a Prince fan. Get over it. I'm pretty sure everyone critized Rave and "Family Name", "The Arms Of Orion", "Wedding Feast" and 'Poom Poom". So shut up.

With that said, I have not complained about anything Prince has done since I've been a fan.

Why don't you shut your ignorant mouth up? Who says criticizing/complaining is not allowed at all? At least I'm talking about people who CONSTANTLY talk shit about Prince with the attitude of "He's finished. Long time ago. He's been musically dead for more than 15 years". I just don't get why they STILL waste their time coming to this website, listening to his new album just to talk shit.

I see robergeorgeakabob pissed you off. But you need to relax.

Umm, and people who only listen to his stuff from 78-95, is just as much a fan than you are.

they're listening to 17 years worth of music. That's a fan in my eyes. If they spent their money

on his albums, they have the right to complain.

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armpit said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

People are entitled to criticize what or who they want to.

To even think that someone can only be a "real fan" if they do not complain is a very narrow minded and worrying attitude, it's not healthy and it's not realistic.

And don't even think about saying that people complain about "everything" because if you actually pay attention you will find that that too is untrue and an unrealistic comment.

Good day.

I'd have never guessed in a million years that you guys consider yourselves 'fans' - that's how hostile you guys come across.

I hear what you are saying and I agree with some of it. But really, how many people do you see coming on here and displaying genuine hatred (and) or hostility? I think if some people were really truthful they would not find that many.

Maybe some peoples idea of being hostile is completley different to that of others, though I guess thats a different topic altogether.

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TylerHippie said:

Emancipation89 said:

Why don't you shut your ignorant mouth up? Who says criticizing/complaining is not allowed at all? At least I'm talking about people who CONSTANTLY talk shit about Prince with the attitude of "He's finished. Long time ago. He's been musically dead for more than 15 years". I just don't get why they STILL waste their time coming to this website, listening to his new album just to talk shit.

I see robergeorgeakabob pissed you off. But you need to relax.

Umm, and people who only listen to his stuff from 78-95, is just as much a fan than you are.

they're listening to 17 years worth of music. That's a fan in my eyes. If they spent their money

on his albums, they have the right to complain.

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Re-read my thread. I said they ARE fans. The only thing I've said was they're obsessed.

The reason I said U SHUT YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH UP is because you said SHUT UP to people who get pissed off by the never-ending negativity of the man. Who said they don't have the right to complain?

vitriol said:

armpit said:

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community.

And had you ever seen Prince's level of hostility towards his fanbase in any other artist?

Just askin'...

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[Edited 8/1/11 5:17am]

And have you ever heard of a person called Morrissey?

Just askin'...

Emancipation89 said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

i said "if" prince did it. you've just said he "will" do it. u haven't quite mastered sarcasm have u? u dig the hole and throw yourself in it and i'll just fill it in.

ps i wasn't making a point about prince, i was making it about u. thankyou, goodnight, much love from terry tibbs.

lol Yeah because when I said "he will" do all that shit you've said, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Really, I wasn't. Like, REEEEALLY.

It was nice talking to a delusional asshole. Good night to you too. Love, 20ten.

(Because when I said "I find those who talk shit about EVERYTHING Prince does these days ANNOYING, I secreatly meant I will listen to 20ten and not listen to Around the World in a Day. Just like you said ;D)

yeah but when i said that you should do what i said that you should do when i said it, i didn't REEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAALLLLY think that when i said what u should say you'd say what i thought you'd REEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLYYYY think i thought i said listen to 2010. in fact when i said what i thought about what u thought i said i REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY thought i said what u were saying that i'd said what i didn't say but thought it was being said was that u thought u had said what i'd said but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY u thought u said u thought around the world in a day was crap. is that the point you're making????

Emancipation89 said:

TylerHippie said:

I see robergeorgeakabob pissed you off. But you need to relax.

Umm, and people who only listen to his stuff from 78-95, is just as much a fan than you are.

they're listening to 17 years worth of music. That's a fan in my eyes. If they spent their money

on his albums, they have the right to complain.

[Edited 8/1/11 5:22am]

Re-read my thread. I said they ARE fans. The only thing I've said was they're obsessed.

The reason I said U SHUT YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH UP is because you said SHUT UP to people who get pissed off by the never-ending negativity of the man. Who said they don't have the right to complain?

Umm, what thread?

Your basically saying that they don't have the right. How do you know that they are not satisfied

with anything he did since 95'? They're showing how let down they are by complaining.

prince likes fams not fans .. fan is short for fanatic .. fam is short for family .. family will love you even if you hire a horrible lite jazz keyboardist to shit all over your timeless music and family will tell you to your face .. fans just blow smoke up your ass

robertgeorgeakabob said:

Emancipation89 said:

lol Yeah because when I said "he will" do all that shit you've said, I wasn't being sarcastic at all. Really, I wasn't. Like, REEEEALLY.

It was nice talking to a delusional asshole. Good night to you too. Love, 20ten.

(Because when I said "I find those who talk shit about EVERYTHING Prince does these days ANNOYING, I secreatly meant I will listen to 20ten and not listen to Around the World in a Day. Just like you said ;D)

yeah but when i said that you should do what i said that you should do when i said it, i didn't REEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAALLLLY think that when i said what u should say you'd say what i thought you'd REEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLYYYY think i thought i said listen to 2010. in fact when i said what i thought about what u thought i said i REEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLYYYYYYY thought i said what u were saying that i'd said what i didn't say but thought it was being said was that u thought u had said what i'd said but REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYY u thought u said u thought around the world in a day was crap. is that the point you're making????

:applause: Try just a bit harder. You're almost there. You almost got it. Don't give up!!!

vitriol said:

armpit said:

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community.

And had you ever seen Prince's level of hostility towards his fanbase in any other artist?

Just askin'...

[Edited 8/1/11 5:17am]

[Edited 8/1/11 5:17am]

You guys are delusional . I love the way the Prince fan community likes to collectively pretend they're these whimpering little innocents, always getting shat on and stepped on by big bad Prince, when honestly, the majority of the time it's usually you guys antagonizing and disrespecting him in some way first. And don't say I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, I remember the whole 'PFU!' campaign the forums started, which led to Prince verbally bitchslapping all of us in a song.

Or how the other day really bad sound problems forced him to end a show early and jackasses flooded the boards shitting on Prince for it. I would've told you all to go fuck yourselves and cancelled the next show, or went ahead and showed up and phoned it in just to get the money out of your pockets; Prince did like a three-hour rehearsal, busting his ass to make sure the sound was on point and then went on stage and performed his ass off. He's a better person than me, I'm telling you.

If you always shit on someone, you can't be surprised if sometimes they get fed up and shit on you right back.

TylerHippie said:

Emancipation89 said:

Re-read my thread. I said they ARE fans. The only thing I've said was they're obsessed.

The reason I said U SHUT YOUR IGNORANT MOUTH UP is because you said SHUT UP to people who get pissed off by the never-ending negativity of the man. Who said they don't have the right to complain?

Umm, what thread?

Your basically saying that they don't have the right. How do you know that they are not satisfied

with anything he did since 95'? They're showing how let down they are by complaining.

What thread? This freaking thread below.

Emancipation89 said:

Yeah the ones who always talk like "Oh I miss the old Prince, he's not the same person anymore, everything he puts out these days is nothing but shit" -_- Ugh. But the thing is most of them are obsessed enough to at least sit in front of a computer and spend hours just to talk shit about Prince on this website. DAILY!!! I guess they're beyond obsessed that they just can't let it go...So in a way, they're real fans . They just can't admit or don't realize how obsessed they are.

Not once I've said they don't have the right to complain. My point is they're so obsessed that they go around and make comments about how disappointed they are and have been for 15 years, and they STILL listen to new albums even AFTER saying "everything he does these days is shit, and future albums will be shit as well"

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purplesocks said:

You know you're a real fan when you bother signing up for a website called prince.org

Emancipation89 said:

TylerHippie said:

What thread? This freaking thread below.

Emancipation89 said:

Yeah the ones who always talk like "Oh I miss the old Prince, he's not the same person anymore, everything he puts out these days is nothing but shit" -_- Ugh. But the thing is most of them are obsessed enough to at least sit in front of a computer and spend hours just to talk shit about Prince on this website. DAILY!!! I guess they're beyond obsessed that they just can't let it go...So in a way, they're real fans . They just can't admit or don't realize how obsessed they are.

Not once I've said they don't have the right to complain. My point is they're so obsessed that they go around and make comments about how disappointed they are and have been for 15 years, and they STILL listen to new albums even AFTER saying "everything he does these days is shit, and future albums will be shit as well"

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First, that's not a thread, it's a comment aka reply.

Second, people listen to his new stuff to try to get into it, and not be stuck in the Warner Bros years. And what else are they supposed to listen to? And most of the those people who are not happy with his new stuff, tend to stay in his Warner years.

Third, I haven't heard one person say any of his future projects are going to be shit. That's a lie.

vitriol said:

armpit said:

This level of hostility towards an artist by their own fanbase, is something I've never ever witnessed before in any other fan community.

And had you ever seen Prince's level of hostility towards his fanbase in any other artist?

Just askin'...

Very good point.Let's face it,Prince doesn't always treat his own fans with respect.In order to receive respect,one has to give it.If there really is a "level of hostility" towards Prince by his own fans,ask yourself why.He brings alot of this stuff on himself.

TylerHippie said:

Emancipation89 said:

First, that's not a thread, it's a comment aka reply.

Second, people listen to his new stuff to try to get into it, and not be stuck in the Warner Bros years. And what else are they supposed to listen to? And most of the those people who are not happy with his new stuff, tend to stay in his Warner years.

Third, I haven't heard one person say any of his future projects are going to be shit. That's a lie.

First, oh f you're right, sorry for confusing you by saying that was a "thread". That's a reply.

Second, What else are they supposed to listen to? They can easily move on to other artists and stop listening to Prince. But since they don't do that, I see them as obsessed fans. (AGain, I'm talking about the ones who talk shit about EVERY DAMN THING Prince does/has been doing for 2 decades.)

Thirdly, Some said "He's been musically dead since (certain album)." I interpret this as "He's future work will be shit as well"

Emancipation89 said:

TylerHippie said:

First, that's not a thread, it's a comment aka reply.

Second, people listen to his new stuff to try to get into it, and not be stuck in the Warner Bros years. And what else are they supposed to listen to? And most of the those people who are not happy with his new stuff, tend to stay in his Warner years.

Third, I haven't heard one person say any of his future projects are going to be shit. That's a lie.

First, oh f you're right, sorry for confusing you by saying that was a "thread". That's a reply.

Second, What else are they supposed to listen to? They can easily move on to other artists and stop listening to Prince. But since they don't do that, I see them as obsessed fans. (AGain, I'm talking about the ones who talk shit about EVERY DAMN THING Prince does/has been doing for 2 decades.)

Thirdly, Some said "He's been musically dead since (certain album)." I interpret this as "He's future work will be shit as well"

1. Die hard fans don't stop being a artist fan because he's not meeting their standards. And I'm sure no one has been complaining about Prince for 20 years. Your just going crazy now.

2. How saying "He's been musically dead since (certain album)". Count toward his future albums?

You think when people heard Graffiti Bridge they were saying his future albums are going to suck?