Hi, sorry if this is "fact common known"...

After this Brit awards in (Feb./March?) 1995, Prince was on the front page of New Musical Express:

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And there was a review of The Gold Experience (half a year before the final release in sep. 1995),

the tracklist included Days Of Wild, but with a sour comment from the reviewer, he wrote something like Days Of Wild was the worst track on the album, a very bad rap attemt - something like that.

MAYBE - at least that's what I think - this was the reason Prince decided to remove this funky track from TGE...

[Edited 7/23/11 2:03am]

I was so disappointed that this song wasn't included on the album.I think it's Prince's best,most convincing hip-hop number.It puts "P Control" to shame.

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^ one guy from the Britpop band Blur wrote "Dave" on his cheek, he thought he was ssoooo funny

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^ tHE pic AT RIGHT:

one guy from the Britpop band Blur wrote "Dave" on his cheek,

he thought he was ssoooo funny..

[Edited 7/21/11 6:53am]

This from http://www.princevault.co...ys_Of_Wild

"This studio version was included as the sixth track on an untitled early-1994 album (likely an early configuration of The Gold Experience). It was then included as the fourth track (second song) on a March, 1994 configuration of The Gold Experience, and was kept as the fourth track (second song) on a May, 1994 configuration, as well as the seventh track (fifth song) on a 13 October, 1994 configuration. It was removed for the final release, with little explanation. Mayte was quoted as saying Prince had "other plans" for the track, but it is unclear what these plans were."

^ Thanks TDG:

Strange cuz NME have Days Of Wild as the 5th track, see pic above.

But a NME typo:.... "Days Of Wind"...

The BLUR guy...

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(Slightly off topic)

I remember a story (possibly from the NME) about the Brits that year, apparently Dave Rowntree and other people sat at the Blur table began throwing bread rolls at Prince's table after his "perfectly free" speech.

Later, Rowntree and other Blur members turned up at one of Prince's aftershows at the Astoria(?) and wanted to gain entry. Prince ordered security not to let them in but before they were turned away Blur were handed a cardboard box, when Rowntree opened the box it contained 6 bread rolls.

^I don't know how true that story is but it's a good one.

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the studio version is weak and wimpy, however live (especially the wttbe version) it kicked arse.

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the studio version is weak and wimpy, however live (especially the wttbe version) it kicked arse.

I agree. I have a feeling that he probably thought the same thing.

anyone here take part in the GE tape tree?

OnlyNDaUsa said:

anyone here take part in the GE tape tree?

What was that?

daPrettyman said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

anyone here take part in the GE tape tree?

What was that?

before it came out, prince said he was never going to release it... so someone put together a tape and we made copies and mailed them to each other. I made 5 copies and mailed them out 2 to the UK.

TheDigitalGardener said:

(Slightly off topic)

I remember a story (possibly from the NME) about the Brits that year, apparently Dave Rowntree and other people sat at the Blur table began throwing bread rolls at Prince's table after his "perfectly free" speech.

Later, Rowntree and other Blur members turned up at one of Prince's aftershows at the Astoria(?) and wanted to gain entry. Prince ordered security not to let them in but before they were turned away Blur were handed a cardboard box, when Rowntree opened the box it contained 6 bread rolls.

^I don't know how true that story is but it's a good one.

^ yeah...

Nice story: Prince versus Blur 1995

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[Edited 7/23/11 2:06am]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

daPrettyman said:

What was that?

before it came out, prince said he was never going to release it... so someone put together a tape and we made copies and mailed them to each other. I made 5 copies and mailed them out 2 to the UK.

Oh, ok!

SoulAlive said:

I was so disappointed that this song wasn't included on the album.I think it's Prince's best,most convincing hip-hop number.It puts "P Control" to shame.

Yes,

I the studio version too.

I think the first time I heard it was The Beautiful Experience tv special in the fall of 1994,

Shown on Danish DR1 TV - I was really trippin to this track......

Of course it's fantastic played live, but the studio version rocks too.

One of the best tracks of the 1990's.

daPrettyman said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the studio version is weak and wimpy, however live (especially the wttbe version) it kicked arse.

I agree. I have a feeling that he probably thought the same thing.

I disagree that it's weak and whimpy, I think it had a more techno and laid back "too cool for school vibe". It wasn't trying to be shouting and belting out a rap, it was more like the attitude that he was sitting on a throne chilled out and transmitting from the future.

Out of the live ones I've heard, the original live one is the best, but has a completely different attitude than the studio one, it's belted out loud and big.

I think it got more and more boring as the live one became a standard of the years, because it floated somewhere in between the two extremes and got more conventional on the arrangement.

He should have had the studio version on Gold, that album would be that much better in my opinion. Like really cool. Take out We March, and put in "Days of Wild".

thedance said:

one guy from the Britpop band Blur wrote "Dave" on his cheek,

he thought he was ssoooo funny..

Can't you get the images any bigger? I'm sure folks on Mars would like to read the article, too.

I never liked the studio version anyway...

TheDigitalGardener said:

This from http://www.princevault.co...ys_Of_Wild

"This studio version was included as the sixth track on an untitled early-1994 album (likely an early configuration of The Gold Experience). It was then included as the fourth track (second song) on a March, 1994 configuration of The Gold Experience, and was kept as the fourth track (second song) on a May, 1994 configuration, as well as the seventh track (fifth song) on a 13 October, 1994 configuration. It was removed for the final release, with little explanation. Mayte was quoted as saying Prince had "other plans" for the track, but it is unclear what these plans were."

Your Princevault quote is pretty much on point (well, Princevault IS very reliable,so... ) ...but I think there was an article or rather an interview in Uptown magazine where a guy I knew back then (Andre) interviewed Mayte and she said something in the vein of "Prince wasn´t very happy with the studio versions because none of them captured the energy of the live version", something to that effect.

I think the Princevault guys are referring to that interview. But I don´t remember the issue and I can´t look it up right now.

And he´s right.....the live versions DO sound better than the studio version. My favorite version is the one from "The Beautiful Experience" . The same can be said about "Now!".

I think the Gold Experience, as good as it is, could have been a much stronger album. The cover art looked much better in its original form as seen on the Letterman show, and the original configuration was better,too. The production is a tad too sterile for my taste, and most fans were already spoiled by hearing the very powerful live renditions way before the album was finally released.

I would love to hear that bootleg with the rawer sounding, unpolished versions of the Gold Experience songs. That leak was almost a decade ago and I still haven´t found those rawer sounding takes. Also would love to hear the rock version of "Space".

ufoclub said:

daPrettyman said:

I agree. I have a feeling that he probably thought the same thing.

I disagree that it's weak and whimpy, I think it had a more techno and laid back "too cool for school vibe". It wasn't trying to be shouting and belting out a rap, it was more like the attitude that he was sitting on a throne chilled out and transmitting from the future.

Out of the live ones I've heard, the original live one is the best, but has a completely different attitude than the studio one, it's belted out loud and big.

I think it got more and more boring as the live one became a standard of the years, because it floated somewhere in between the two extremes and got more conventional on the arrangement.

He should have had the studio version on Gold, that album would be that much better in my opinion. Like really cool. Take out We March, and put in "Days of Wild".

I think the studio version has it's good points, but I prefer the live version.

I love the studio version it kicks ass!

My guess is that, in addition to Prince preferring the live version of DoW, he didn't want to give the song to WB. Prince has said that The Gold Experience was made by his "semi-free self". By the time WB agreed to release it, Prince was looking forward to being totally free. I always thought he considered the song extra special and wanted to keep it for himself, i.e., own the master.

Mayte said he had other plans for the song, and he did end up releasing it himself, twice: the Crystal Ball version, and the Montreal single.

fms said:

My guess is that, in addition to Prince preferring the live version of DoW, he didn't want to give the song to WB. Prince has said that The Gold Experience was made by his "semi-free self". By the time WB agreed to release it, Prince was looking forward to being totally free. I always thought he considered the song extra special and wanted to keep it for himself, i.e., own the master.

Mayte said he had other plans for the song, and he did end up releasing it himself, twice: the Crystal Ball version, and the Montreal single.

That makes sense.

daPrettyman said:

robertgeorgeakabob said:

the studio version is weak and wimpy, however live (especially the wttbe version) it kicked arse.

I agree. I have a feeling that he probably thought the same thing.

I think this is the reason too, pure speculation, but maybe this is why there's only been a rehersal version of Rebirth Of The Flesh released too.

TheDigitalGardener said:

(Slightly off topic)

I remember a story (possibly from the NME) about the Brits that year, apparently Dave Rowntree and other people sat at the Blur table began throwing bread rolls at Prince's table after his "perfectly free" speech.

Later, Rowntree and other Blur members turned up at one of Prince's aftershows at the Astoria(?) and wanted to gain entry. Prince ordered security not to let them in but before they were turned away Blur were handed a cardboard box, when Rowntree opened the box it contained 6 bread rolls.

^I don't know how true that story is but it's a good one.

thedance said:

Hi, sorry if this is "fact common known"...

After this Brit awards in (Feb./March?) 1995, Prince was on the front page of New Musical Express:

[img:$uid]http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8646/nme1995.jpg[/img:$uid]

And there was a review of The Gold Experience (half a year before the final release in sep. 1995),

the tracklist included Days Of Wild, but with a sour comment from the reviewer, he wrote something like Days Of Wild was the worst track on the album, a very bad rap attemt - something like that.

MAYBE - at least that's what I think - this was the reason Prince decided to remove this funky track from TGE...

It made it to the Crystal Ball album...

thedance said:

SoulAlive said:

I was so disappointed that this song wasn't included on the album.I think it's Prince's best,most convincing hip-hop number.It puts "P Control" to shame.

Yes,

I the studio version too.

I think the first time I heard it was The Beautiful Experience tv special in the fall of 1994,

Shown on Danish DR1 TV - I was really trippin to this track......

Of course it's fantastic played live, but the studio version rocks too.

One of the best tracks of the 1990's.

I was at the Beautiful Experience party/concert and that was the first time the song was played, actually the first for many from that show. Great times!

OnlyNDaUsa said:

daPrettyman said:

What was that?

before it came out, prince said he was never going to release it... so someone put together a tape and we made copies and mailed them to each other. I made 5 copies and mailed them out 2 to the UK.

Yes Day of Wild is his all time best "rap" track...I agree and wish I had a good copy of it..need to get an mp3 of the Beautiful Experience version I guess.

Because the only Minneapolis rapper worse than Tony M. is Prince. It might be his best rap song, but that's kind of like me releasing my best rap song—nobody should have to suffer through it.