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Thread started 07/15/11 3:44am

Heidi

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Morrissey - read this and tell me if this reminds you of someone we know?

Throwing out his own fans – has Morrissey finally lost it?

After a 5,000-mile trip from LA to Copenhagen, a Morrissey fansite owner was looking forward to seeing his favourite artist in concert. Instead he was refused entry and given a lifetime ban

That joke isn't funny any more ... Morrissey throws fansite owner out of concert.

As bad gig experiences go, you'll have a tough time beating David Tseng – who, earlier this week, flew more than 5,000 miles from Los Angeles to Copenhagen only to be surrounded by security, kicked out without refund and later told (via a public statement) that the artist he had devoted his life to had banned him from his concerts. "You know what you did," he was told as security marched him out. "Er, I don't," he replied.

He might have had an inkling, though. Tseng is the owner of Morrissey-Solo.com (or "so low", as the singer calls it) – a popular fansite he has been running for nearly 15 years and whose extremities of love and loathing have earned it a contentious reputation. As one fan recently put it: "Moz once sang that it takes strength to be gentle and kind, but that's not the mentality of the trolls who comment on Solo." It's safe to say Morrissey isn't a member.

The singer recently took to the stage with a "FUCK MORRISSEY-SOLO.COM" T-shirt, while his spokesman declared war this week: "Mr Tseng, via his poisonous website, has caused so much intentional distress to Morrissey and Morrissey's band over the years that Mr Tseng is not welcome at any Morrissey shows."

Tseng told the Guardian he was shocked: "I've never intended to cause distress to Morrissey or his band. I post little commentary on the site, preferring to leave the discussion to site users – he seems to blame me for his fans' opinions. I don't agree with every post on there but I believe in free speech – I don't like to censor, which is something he is supposedly against.

"It's a control thing. If he doesn't have control of the site then he doesn't like it – he wants to knock it down. I think it's because he's having trouble getting a record deal so he's looking for someone to blame. He's frustrated."

The main issue, Tseng says, seems to be vitriolic criticism of Morrissey's "stagnant" new material and a backing band that some fans think needs desperately to be changed. The recent move to ban Tseng, however, has been seen as an attack not only on him, but on fans in general. It marks a turning point in what has been a weird time for Morrissey, when he doesn't have a record deal yet never seems to be out of the press (a cynic would say the two are related).

Producers, support acts, record labels, managers, session musicians, former band members, politicians, celebrity chefs – 30 years into his career, Morrissey has fallen out with them all. Yet fans have remained fervent followers whose devotion is beyond measure. They not only buy the lacklustre reissues he insists never chart, go to the gigs he cancels at a whim and stick with him after questionable comments, they're also the same fans who kept posting on websites such as Morrissey-Solo.com during his "wilderness years" between 1997 and 2003 when no record label would touch him – a prospect he may face now. To fall out with them is not only – as a certain dog did recently – biting the hand that feeds but possibly the moment where Morrissey has finally lost it.

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Reply #1 posted 07/15/11 4:01am

KeithyT

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Not the same at all Prince's T-shirts tend to say "Eff NPGMC.com" or "Eff lotusflow3r.com"

NOTE: that was purely for comedic purposes. I had no problem with either site, ...unlike Prince. No I must stop. lol

Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #2 posted 07/15/11 4:08am

802

Yes this reminds me of someone we know. Morrissey is Prince in disguise.

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Reply #3 posted 07/15/11 5:00am

unique

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moz also cancelled his show last nite

i can just imagine prince wearing a "fuck tha org" t shirt and band members with the same written down sleeves and legs of their clothing. it would then end up a new quad disc concept album about hating his fans and webshites

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Reply #4 posted 07/15/11 5:23am

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unique said:

moz also cancelled his show last nite

i can just imagine prince wearing a "fuck tha org" t shirt and band members with the same written down sleeves and legs of their clothing. it would then end up a new quad disc concept album about hating his fans and webshites

I look forward to it. Pissed off Prince releases better music than loved-up-jehova Prince

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Reply #5 posted 07/15/11 5:24am

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Reminds me that there are trolls on all websites that like to post negativity and lame ass rude comments...such as this thread which is a dumbfounded attempt to link Morrisey's actions to something P has done or will do. Dumbfounded.

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Reply #6 posted 07/15/11 6:30am

NouveauDance

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Ha-ha, artists really shouldn't read fan forums if they can't handle it - Dunno why they think getting on their soapbox about it is a good idea, it just makes them look petty.

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Reply #7 posted 07/15/11 7:11am

imago

Morrissey sucks as a solo artist. I like about 20% of his solo material, and I *love* none of it.

Prince isn't anything like Morrissey. I doesn't sue his fans over having his feelings hurt. He's

being cuntish over money and ideals. Morrissey's just being a big 'ol nelly queen, not that

suing your fans is justified under either motive.

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Reply #8 posted 07/15/11 8:18am

erik319

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thepope2the9s said:

Reminds me that there are trolls on all websites that like to post negativity and lame ass rude comments...such as this thread which is a dumbfounded attempt to link Morrisey's actions to something P has done or will do.

What's a dumbfounded attempt?

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Reply #9 posted 07/15/11 8:50am

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Nope! P doesnt kick memebers of the Org out of his shows, he probably wouldnt even recognize 90% of us @ a show, I know some people like 2 think P browses the Org quite frequently, but thats just non-sense.

Plus P will kindly take our money & lets us stay. I would have fought 2 get my money back, if I was that guy, However P probably would find this article entertaining, and say Morrissey had every right 2 kick that fan out lol

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"How Can I Stand To..Stay Where I Am? Poor Butterfly Who..Dont Understand." P
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Reply #10 posted 07/15/11 11:15am

Llanishenlad

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Morrissey is a wank-hole nuff said

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Reply #11 posted 07/15/11 11:52am

UmustB

He is a vegetarian-I respect him for that!

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Reply #12 posted 07/15/11 12:04pm

ufoclub

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Prince and Morrissey were rumored to have worked on stuff together many years ago. (before 1994).

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Reply #13 posted 07/15/11 1:45pm

The1592

NouveauDance said:

Ha-ha, artists really shouldn't read fan forums if they can't handle it - Dunno why they think getting on their soapbox about it is a good idea, it just makes them look petty.

Yep, a bit pathetic that such a big star would care so much about what some people on the internet say. Taking the time to create a t-shirt and stage a public protest against a fan site is just insane.

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Reply #14 posted 07/15/11 2:05pm

Militant

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Petty.

This comment on that actual site was interesting...

I dont think David Tseng can be blamed for the fact that many of the fans Morrissey attracts have a lot of pent up and free-floating anger and hate. That's a reflection of Morrissey himself (or at least one side of him), not a reflection of David Tseng.

Morrissey fans can seem nice enough in person, but online they often become monsters. This was true of every Morrissey online forum that was not strictly controlled. It was true before this site existed, back in the days of Usenet. It was true back in the days of AOL message boards. This site used have a lot more nasty stuff going on back before the moderators worked hard to put the sickest and most infamous trolls in check.

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Reply #15 posted 07/16/11 10:14am

vitriol

For me, Morrissey has always been an idiot.

I loved The Smiths, but his solo output was I-want-but-I-can't.

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Reply #16 posted 07/16/11 11:00am

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The1592 said:

Taking the time to create a t-shirt and stage a public protest against a fan site

Prince just makes songs about it (PFUnk). lol

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #17 posted 07/17/11 12:23pm

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When you put yourself out there, you open yourself up to criticism. And in a free society, especially with an anonymous forum such as the internet, you can expect some people to be nasty beyond the point of constructive criticism.

Anyone who gets their panties in a wad over it and tries to control what people can say or sues to shut them up is simply a fascist.

Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #18 posted 07/17/11 12:40pm

Timmy84

Least Prince don't throw his fans out for no damn reason. lol

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Reply #19 posted 07/17/11 3:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

Least Prince don't throw his fans out for no damn reason. lol

Yet

"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #20 posted 07/17/11 3:39pm

Timmy84

errant said:

Timmy84 said:

Least Prince don't throw his fans out for no damn reason. lol

Yet

lol

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Reply #21 posted 07/19/11 10:01am

dalsh327

I was going to say Axl Rose.... it turned out that there was a correspondence from Morrissey to Merck, who also manages GNR, and his legal team sent a letter to the webmaster saying to get the letter off or else.

Odds are, someone in Merck's camp was up to no good if it happened to be Axl and Morrissey, and stole it. Or if he's doing it to mess with them.

And on one of the GNR sites, they almost put a bunch of files, emails, etc before Axl's legal team almost shut the site down.

Axl and Morrissey have cut their shows short because of how security was dealing with their fans, and as soon as a water bottle hit them, they stopped the show and called it a night.

I just think Prince handles his fans at shows in a whole other different way. Axl had it coming to him because he created riots over his stupid tantrums years ago. People will just pay a lot of money to start taunting him. Morrissey's been known to cut shows short or not go on stage because he found out they were selling hot dogs.

It's just a matter of fansites using common sense and not putting personal correspondence in the forums. That's what Wikileaks is for. If you have legal info, send it off to someone who has lawyers that can fight back, and let them put it out. Then the fan run site can post a link to it and not have to deal with the consequences. All they'd have to do is kill the link.

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Reply #22 posted 07/26/11 7:39pm

Flip

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ItsGonnaBLonely said:

Nope! P doesnt kick memebers of the Org out of his shows, he probably wouldnt even recognize 90% of us @ a show, I know some people like 2 think P browses the Org quite frequently, but thats just non-sense.

Plus P will kindly take our money & lets us stay. I would have fought 2 get my money back, if I was that guy, However P probably would find this article entertaining, and say Morrissey had every right 2 kick that fan out lol

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if i remember correctly wasnt there a few shows at paisley park where they had people taking surveys about Uptown magaizine and if they said they received it they werent allowed in??

i wanna say this was in early 90s around gold...

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