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This is all about it, right there. | |
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WOW!!!!! Lookin 4ward 2 it!!!!!
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Raspberry Beret- | |
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Didnt Prince say after Purple Rain that every1 was xpecting Purple Rain 2??? so he wanted 2 off in a totally diferent direction & it would b very far from Purple Rain!!!Around The World In A Day is my fave album after PR eye just understood what he was trying 2 do with A.T.W.I.A.D & was hooked!! Dave Is Nuttier Than A Can Of Planters Peanuts...(Ottensen) | |
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Remember, a lot of corny, or weird for the sake of being weird stuff was considered cool in the 80's. I don't mean ironic, but actually cool. You may have laughed at Prince's high heels, or him licking his fingers, but the rest of the puzzling non-sensical Prince stuff was really hip at the time. He could have done annnnnnything and got away with it. Then he did.
So ATWIAD comes out without any real transition, and it was almost too puzzling. People could follow Erotic City/Another lonely Christmas at least, but this wasn't what any Prince fan wanted. Nobody was like " I hope he brings in sitar, and goes all 60's sounding".
Then he's got a couple songs which are undeniable pop, like Pop Life, which was the one song nobody could hate it seems, and then Raspberry Beret, which was almost too...happy. Plus he's in the video smiling in a cloud suit, and it was like, what happened to the brooding in a lace blouse with the Hendrix hair? I think a lot of people had a love-hate thing for the record. It's just aged well.
He lost Black radio entirely, when there were still Soul and r&b stations, without much crossover. Then again, if you're Prince, every time you flipped to a Black station you would hear Chaka Khan singing your song all day long, but we didn't know that. Black radio really couldn't keep up after 1999 anyway. They were clinging on to "Controversy" but never bothered to listen to the words, I guess.
What I most remember about ATWIAD was you thought he was going somewhere with it. You thought he was telling stories with a direction, and you would get some resolution, or he was creating a movement. Now we just recognize Prince and "symbolism" is to be taken with a grain of salt... but nobody knew that then.
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Prince was on top of his game then and ATWIAD proved that. | |
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Absolutely. Great record, still holds up.
I was thrilled when the Rolling Stone cover/interview came out around that time. | |
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uh I can't say he lost Black radio entirely. Because he didn't loose Black fans entirely. I seen Parade concerts in the US was predominately black faces loving the Parade/Around the World in a Day/1999 music
Where I live the 'Black Station' is/was WDKX 104, and Raspberry Beret America Pop Life Hello the Ladder She's Always in My Hair got lots of regular airplay. the whole album was played in its entirety.
the Family album got serious airplay on that station: Screams of Passion, High Fashion, Mutiny, Nothing Compares 2 U
Sheila E's A Love Bizarre, Sister Fate & Dear Michelangelo got lots of air play too
Old Friends 4 Sale was played as a 'promo' for the new Prince movie, New Position, Girls & Boys, Kiss, Love or Money, Under the Cherry Moon, AnotherLover... & Sometimes It Snows In April were constantly on the playlist
From what I know back then, Black music was anything a "black" person did. Come on PR was a rock album and Let's Go Crazy, the Beautiful Ones, Computer Blue, Darling Nikki Purple Rain was seriously played. Another Lonely Christmas to this very did is still played a few times a day on Christmas | |
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Great post...The irony is black radio and his black fans came back to him with the SOTT album...When I was growing up in Chicago you couldn't escape "Sign O' The Times," "Housequake," "Adore" and "If I Was Your Girlfriend" on black radio stations....By the time Diamonds & Pearls came around, it was almost a reverse...Prince's black fans were back in force, while his rock fans kind of turned their back on him..... | |
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Original album cover treatment by Jim Warren: [img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/fangebay/ORG/ATWIADbyJimWarren1985.jpg[/img:$uid]
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(60) EXT. GLADE AND BARN -- DAWN | |
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April 1985 @ S.I..R Studio | |
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Nice cover by Jim Warren. Hahaha @ that GIF. | |
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... great thread
Peace ... & Stay Funky ...
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After reading and having a few questions, I asked the management to clarify a few things and was told simply to "Use your imagination". So I did.
Half way through the painting I was asked to fly me and the painting from California to Cincinnati in freezing cold weather as Prince had given instructions that the first thing he wanted to see when he woke up was my painting.
So off I flew, the half finished painting sitting in the seat next to me. While I waited in my hotel room in Cincinnati, two bodyguards came to get the painting to show Prince, returning the next day with instructions to "finish it" (This was before the Internet Age as you can tell). So I finished it and handed it over to management.
Two weeks later I was told, again very simply, "He Loved it". - Jim Warren | |
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So if the "Around The World In A Day" album cover wasn't animated, it would look like this? | |
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WDKX isn't a normal station, then or now, it's independent and Black owned.....but you're right, Black radio didn't turn their backs on Prince immediately, they still played the OLD records, and they still played Sheila E. and tried to promote his other projects like The Family...and sure, some stations did a big first day release event where they played the whole record, but on what universe was Computer Blue, Darling Nikki, or America getting routine airplay next to A Love Bizarre? Erotic City got more airplay than anything off ATWIAD. Raspberry Beret got play, but it stuck out like a sore thumb with the violins. The Ladder's gospel sounds weren't right either, because these stations had specific hours for soul and gospel. Speaking of which, the soul stations weren't the same as the R & B station in major markets. | |
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I much prefer it. | |
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Probably the most misunderstood of his 1980's albums (outside of Lovesexy).
As stated earlier, the man was on point at this time and the album was a welcome departure from PR.
My all time favorite Prince ballad (Condition of the Heart) is on here and minus the 800 lb gorilla that preceded it (Purple Rain), i would have been much more popular. Stylistically a fun, artsy album that hinted at what was to come with Parade. "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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In some ways, I still think it is his funkiest album, and oddly his most personal.
It's insular and paranoid in a way that creeps me out... there's a tension to the music.
I think that much of what I consider to be Prince's eccentricity is best displayed on ATWIAD, he sort of creates his own vocabulary. Images of color, perception of faith and sexuality, his place in the world of music.
It's hard for me to turn other people onto it, but for the Prince fans, well, you feel it. | |
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No that believed in playing all styles, plus theere was a lot of fusion going on in music during the 1980's a lot of the minneapolis sound was being duplicated and a lot of rock/rnb fusion or jazz and pop fusion etc.
Yes WDKX did play Darling Nikki and Computer Blue on a regular bassis, and America definatley. If Let's Go Crazy go serious air play why wouldn't America?
Also MJackson's albums got non stop air play and songs like Beat It is a rock song. the radio station used to do music battles like playing MJ music vs Prince and people would vote in
I mean I lived it so I know what I'm talking about. They still play 'live recordings' of Prince music at certain times of the night. I've heard version of Purple Rain live that I still don't know where it came from | |
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Yeah, even thought the title track, and a few other tracks were my favorites, I still couldn't listen to that album for a long time, because I remembered a lot of the songs sounding like the song "God" ...but of course, that was just that tension thing you're talking about.
Worse are the live renditions of songs I have always loved, like Around the World in a Day, in medley with Christopher Tracey's Parade. It's just uncomfortable in the attempt to strip it of tension entirely and sound like a television theme song. | |
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Okay well if that's how you remember it, I'm not going to burst your bubble and I wasn't in Rochester, NY.
..but the rest of Black radio wasn't playing all styles. A lot of them wouldn't even play certain kinds of hip hop.
Eddy Grant was considered a breakthrough on Black radio too. It was that far from being free form, and that damn format oriented back then.
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About a month ago I put this album on at work, and as I was working alone and unbothered at the time, it took me back to remembering when I first heard it. Wonderful vibe to the entire album - it really is a journey of sorts, in tone and feel if nothing else.
'Temptation' still surprises me to this day - I think it has to be THE single darkest thing Prince has ever recorded. Well, that I've heard anyway. | |
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absolutely love this album, amazing vibe... prince sang raspberry beret at the 3rd nsj concert & had this cartoon segment playing on the back screen during that time. nostalgia heaven! | |
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The world is a big place, the radio station here was definately playing any kind of style of music by 'black' artist. No bubble to burst. No where did I say this was happening all over the world. BUT if this 1 black station out of 1000's played it then there might have been a few more.
I didn't make a general statement. I responded to your general statement that Black station weren't ... and that black people weren't .... which is not true. When I went to school (Junior) high all the Black kids were singing "Raspberry Beret, the kind you find in a 2nd hand store"
I mean Purple Rain is hardly "BlaCk music" its not RnB it's not "funk" it's strongly rOck but it got played on this station on a regular rotation. Before I even had the album I had a few tapes where I was able to record the whole album from the station.
WDKX as tame as rap was back then they would only play rap after 11pm. And every year they still play Prince's Another Lonely Christmas every Christmas a between 12 midnight to 12midnight
The one thing I did appreciate about that station back then was they gave us a wide range of music styles which opened me up to all kinds of music. So maybe they were the ONLY station in the nation that did that, but I'm glad they did.
It's a very generalized statement for you to say the 'rest of Black radio' like you heard all of them across the nation. Like all black people think alike from coast to coast. Again if there was 1 104 WDKX then there prob were others
Raspberry Beret Pop Life America the Ladder She's Always In My Hair Girl Hello
got regular spin rotation on 104 WDKX in Rochester, NY
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Cool to see some Rochester folks up in here. Yeah DKX used to rock Prince big time back then. I remember them rocking tracks from ATWIAD the day it dropped. They would also rock the Bsides going back to Gotta Stop Messin About on up to the Bsides from ATWIAD. Prince got major play here. OldFriends4Sale said:
uh I can't say he lost Black radio entirely. Because he didn't loose Black fans entirely. I seen Parade concerts in the US was predominately black faces loving the Parade/Around the World in a Day/1999 music
Where I live the 'Black Station' is/was WDKX 104, and Raspberry Beret America Pop Life Hello the Ladder She's Always in My Hair got lots of regular airplay. the whole album was played in its entirety.
the Family album got serious airplay on that station: Screams of Passion, High Fashion, Mutiny, Nothing Compares 2 U
Sheila E's A Love Bizarre, Sister Fate & Dear Michelangelo got lots of air play too
Old Friends 4 Sale was played as a 'promo' for the new Prince movie, New Position, Girls & Boys, Kiss, Love or Money, Under the Cherry Moon, AnotherLover... & Sometimes It Snows In April were constantly on the playlist
From what I know back then, Black music was anything a "black" person did. Come on PR was a rock album and Let's Go Crazy, the Beautiful Ones, Computer Blue, Darling Nikki Purple Rain was seriously played. Another Lonely Christmas to this very did is still played a few times a day on Christmas | |
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