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Thread started 07/04/11 12:12am

mydrawers

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The rhyme or reason to the 10 track 1999 release...

Did you know... that when 1999 was first released on CD, the track "DMSR" was omitted? The original CD version of the album was cut, omitting "D.M.S.R.". There is a disclaimer on the back cover of the original compact disc pressing that reads "To enable the release of 1999 as a single compact disc, the song DMSR has been omitted from the original LP edition".

Now, here's the thing: there was never any need in the first place to omit DMSR because the disc would have STILL been WELL under the 74 minute (at the time) limit for CD's, had 1999 been released on a single disc in it's entirety!!!!!!!!

Now, here's another thing: for the sake of arguement, IF they did have to omit a track from 1999, why omit one of the strongest tracks (DMSR) instead of omitting by far the weakest track, the abysmal "FREE"?

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

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Reply #1 posted 07/04/11 12:14am

armpit

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..."Free" is abysmal? eek

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Reply #2 posted 07/04/11 12:17am

802

armpit said:

..."Free" is abysmal? eek

Yes it is.

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Reply #3 posted 07/04/11 12:23am

jpnyc

Maybe early CD players weren't always up to spec and the labels had to play it safe.

But you are right about Free. That awful song should still be in the vault.

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Reply #4 posted 07/04/11 12:34am

Timmy84

They took out DMSR? For what?!

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Reply #5 posted 07/04/11 1:18am

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mydrawers said:

Did you know... that when 1999 was first released on CD, the track "DMSR" was omitted? The original CD version of the album was cut, omitting "D.M.S.R.". There is a disclaimer on the back cover of the original compact disc pressing that reads "To enable the release of 1999 as a single compact disc, the song DMSR has been omitted from the original LP edition".

Now, here's the thing: there was never any need in the first place to omit DMSR because the disc would have STILL been WELL under the 74 minute (at the time) limit for CD's, had 1999 been released on a single disc in it's entirety!!!!!!!!

Now, here's another thing: for the sake of arguement, IF they did have to omit a track from 1999, why omit one of the strongest tracks (DMSR) instead of omitting by far the weakest track, the abysmal "FREE"?

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

First, standard CDs in 1982 were 60 minutes, not 74. Second, WB asked Prince which song to drop; he chose DMSR.

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Reply #6 posted 07/04/11 1:21am

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MKevon said:

First, standard CDs in 1982 were 60 minutes, not 74. Second, WB asked Prince which song to drop; he chose DMSR.

nod believe that is the correct answer

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Reply #7 posted 07/04/11 1:32am

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mydrawers said:

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

Really? I nearly chucked mine. lol

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Reply #8 posted 07/04/11 1:41am

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TheEnglishGent said:

mydrawers said:

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

Really? I nearly chucked mine. lol

I think i have about 3 of them, where i've ordered them for the 11 track and they came as the 10 track version, i think it's as rare as Exodus. (not much)

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Reply #9 posted 07/04/11 1:50am

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802 said:

armpit said:

..."Free" is abysmal? eek

Yes it is.

...Sacrilege. lol

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Reply #10 posted 07/04/11 2:12am

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bigd74 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Really? I nearly chucked mine. lol

I think i have about 3 of them, where i've ordered them for the 11 track and they came as the 10 track version, i think it's as rare as Exodus. (not much)

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It's not that rare.

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Reply #11 posted 07/04/11 2:15am

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armpit said:

802 said:

Yes it is.

...Sacrilege. lol

I dunno, I think it's rather insufferable too lol

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Reply #12 posted 07/04/11 2:30am

imago

I bought a copy of the CD in Germany without DMSR, but no disclaimer was on it.

I took me a few weeks to realize it because I was really into the symbol album at that time (it had just been released a couple of months), but wanted to acquire 1999.

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Reply #13 posted 07/04/11 2:59am

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mydrawers said:

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

It is? I've got one to sell, if so... However, I can't imagine it being that rare given it was on the market for years.

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Reply #14 posted 07/04/11 3:04am

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jtfolden said:

mydrawers said:

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

It is? I've got one to sell, if so... However, I can't imagine it being that rare given it was on the market for years.

It's not.

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Reply #15 posted 07/04/11 4:22am

Shafty

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TheEnglishGent said:

mydrawers said:

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

Really? I nearly chucked mine. lol

I never knew this either. I still have a copy of the 10 tracker too.

I always wished DMSR was the album opener, and 1999 the closer - but that's for another thread biggrin

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Reply #16 posted 07/04/11 5:38am

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I had one, sold it years ago for $5.00.

Then this year I saw one used for $.50 and I scooped it up for the collectability factor. Don't think it will ever be worth big $$, I just like having stuff.

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Reply #17 posted 07/04/11 10:41am

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Damn. And I sold mine to daPrettyman!! You played me dude!! lol

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Reply #18 posted 07/04/11 11:05am

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First, I love Free!!! ALways have and always will wink

Second, I was lucky enuf to find a copy of the 10 track in a record store. Think I got it for like $7, I was happy smile

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Reply #19 posted 07/04/11 11:08am

Timmy84

To anyone who hates "Free":

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/Fj4B5.gif[/img:$uid]

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Anyways lol that's stupid they took out DMSR just for minutes. That don't make sense.

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Reply #20 posted 07/04/11 11:40am

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Timmy84 said:

To anyone who hates "Free":

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/Fj4B5.gif[/img:$uid]

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Anyways lol that's stupid they took out DMSR just for minutes. That don't make sense.

ikr?? they coulda took Let's Pretend We're Married off or something other than the funky DMSR

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Reply #21 posted 07/04/11 11:41am

Timmy84

ecstasy said:

Timmy84 said:

To anyone who hates "Free":

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/Fj4B5.gif[/img:$uid]

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Anyways lol that's stupid they took out DMSR just for minutes. That don't make sense.

ikr?? they coulda took Let's Pretend We're Married off or something other than the funky DMSR

Or better, they could've left the entire album alone. razz

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Reply #22 posted 07/04/11 11:43am

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Timmy84 said:

ecstasy said:

ikr?? they coulda took Let's Pretend We're Married off or something other than the funky DMSR

Or better, they could've left the entire album alone. razz

haha, touche' my friend biggrin

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Reply #23 posted 07/04/11 12:41pm

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bigd74 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Really? I nearly chucked mine. lol

I think i have about 3 of them, where i've ordered them for the 11 track and they came as the 10 track version, i think it's as rare as Exodus. (not much)

cool

I didn't buy it on CD until it was issued intact on CD.

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Reply #24 posted 07/04/11 12:43pm

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Timmy84 said:

To anyone who hates "Free":

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/Fj4B5.gif[/img:$uid]

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Anyways lol that's stupid they took out DMSR just for minutes. That don't make sense.

Hater gone hate and Free is still gonna suck.

That's the way of the world. wink

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Reply #25 posted 07/04/11 12:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

ecstasy said:

ikr?? they coulda took Let's Pretend We're Married off or something other than the funky DMSR

Or better, they could've left the entire album alone. razz

Not when they only had 60 minutes to work with.

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Reply #26 posted 07/04/11 12:59pm

Timmy84

SUPRMAN said:

Timmy84 said:

To anyone who hates "Free":

[img:$uid]http://i.imgur.com/Fj4B5.gif[/img:$uid]

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Anyways lol that's stupid they took out DMSR just for minutes. That don't make sense.

Hater gone hate and Free is still gonna suck.

That's the way of the world. wink

Whatever you say. talk to the hand razz

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Reply #27 posted 07/04/11 1:18pm

mydrawers

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MKevon said:

mydrawers said:

Did you know... that when 1999 was first released on CD, the track "DMSR" was omitted? The original CD version of the album was cut, omitting "D.M.S.R.". There is a disclaimer on the back cover of the original compact disc pressing that reads "To enable the release of 1999 as a single compact disc, the song DMSR has been omitted from the original LP edition".

Now, here's the thing: there was never any need in the first place to omit DMSR because the disc would have STILL been WELL under the 74 minute (at the time) limit for CD's, had 1999 been released on a single disc in it's entirety!!!!!!!!

Now, here's another thing: for the sake of arguement, IF they did have to omit a track from 1999, why omit one of the strongest tracks (DMSR) instead of omitting by far the weakest track, the abysmal "FREE"?

All of this said, the original 10 track version of 1999 is a very highly sought after collectable by Prince collectors.

[Edited 7/4/11 0:13am]

First, standard CDs in 1982 were 60 minutes, not 74. Second, WB asked Prince which song to drop; he chose DMSR.

Where are you getting your information, and do you have a link to back it up? Not to be argumenative, but 74 minutes was chosen as the CD running time from the giddy-up, due to the fact (ALLEGEDLY) that one of Beethoven's symphonies ran exactly that amount of time.

Even still... 1999 was NOT released in on CD 1982. There were only actually a handful of CD's released in 1982. Pink Floyd's "Wish you were here" was one of those. 1999 was not released on CD, IIRC, until around 1985 (or certainly 1984 at the earliest....I'm checking into this).

Also, I remember when 1999 was first released on CD reading about it in the magazine "Digital audio and compact disc review", and they noted even at the time that the omission of DMSR was inexplicable, considering there would have been plenty of room to spare even if it had been included.

[Edited 7/4/11 13:20pm]

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Reply #28 posted 07/04/11 1:19pm

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Of course, with tthe time limites, the better solution would have been.....

Disc 1

1999

Little red corvette

Delirious

Lets pretend we're married

DMSR

Automatic

Something in the Water

Free

Disc 2

Lady Cab Driver

All the Critics love you in NY

International Lover

Irresistable Bitch

Horny Toad

How Come U don't call me anymore

Little Red Corvette (Dance Mix)

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Reply #29 posted 07/04/11 1:22pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Of course, with tthe time limites, the better solution would have been.....

Disc 1

1999

Little red corvette

Delirious

Lets pretend we're married

DMSR

Automatic

Something in the Water

Free

Disc 2

Lady Cab Driver

All the Critics love you in NY

International Lover

Irresistable Bitch

Horny Toad

How Come U don't call me anymore

Little Red Corvette (Dance Mix)

Agreed, this would have been awesome, but I should point out that there were no time limits in regard to releasing 1999 on 1 CD in it's entirety.

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