N.P.G. in the motherf**kin house N.P.G. in the mother f**kin house...everytime...

abigail05 said:

meisme said:

What the hell is gay about the NPG. Grow the fuck up and stop using bullshit prejudice talk like that. I believe in free speech but damn. Are you that prehistoric?

There is another meaning of "gay" not really having to do with homosexuality. It means having a silly stance or posture that should be embarassing, if the beholder only knew. I suppose the opposite of this gay is cool.

No abigail05 the original meaning meant happy, it was never silly posture embarassing.

In the last few years it's been used by a younger generation as a put down, from clothing to an expression. I've never heard gay as meaning cool

aiden3121 said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Lol!!

That, and because Daphne (who I originally asked the question of) said that she hardly ever listens to the "Revolution era stuff", and she called the performances with the NPG "exciting" (a W2A show vs a Parade show is NOT even a contest) as if the performances with the Revolution are not.

The "Revolution era stuff" is from 1980-1986. How can you NOT listen jams from that era?!?!??? That's the music that clearly marked him as a genius. I'm not talking "ommercially viable or popular either. I said "genius"! No one listens to Newpower Soul and thinks "genius". LMAO! Hell, the same for Planet Earth, Indigo Nights, 20Ten, Musicology, Rave...shall I go on, Aiden?

So, to me - and maybe I'm wrong on this - this says that this young lady just recently got into Prince and listened to more recent stuff first and foremost, mainly 'cause it is the most recent. And, she couldn't be an old-school Prince fan and never listen to the Revolution era's music.

I agree with you that a Parade show kills a W2A show. i have listened to the Revolution era plenty and the Revolution is most definitely not from 80 to 86. Its 83 to 86 the 80 to 82 band werent the Revolution. The Revolution era had jams but as i said before the Revolution werent as influential on Prince as some fans think. Lisa and Wendy contributed but the others hardly had any input at all the songs were pretty much Prince compositions and Lisa and Wendy added bits. The NPG from 93 to 96 (Up to Chaos and Disorder), had a telepathy it seemed with each other. The NPG of the mid 90s was the best band Prince ever had and i would love to see that lineup again. As for those albums you listed i agree they arent genius, The Revolution albums are better but what about The Symbol Album, Come, The Gold Experience? Tell me those arent genius albums. Lotusflow3r is genius too, some people think TRC is too but im not big on that one.

Yet everyone makes it like the NPG was the same from 1990-2011

And the noituloveRevolution was very influentials in many ways. Prince had a comradere with the band from the 1978-1986 that influenced Prince on a real level, even though he became a superstar via Purple Rain 1984 those were the only people that really were a part of his life before 'hollywood' hit. Prince worked out with these people, went to movies, played joke at the airport, lived with Lisa and they did laundry together. They had influences on the image of the band and the sound some more than others. These were people who helped Prince create 'Purple Music' because they did not bring their own defined careers to the table that people did after 1989

Eric Leeds was also influential with Prince and Susannah even moreso

But Sheila E & the Time as a band would have to be mentioned as well as Vanity

OldFriends4Sale said:

abigail05 said:

There is another meaning of "gay" not really having to do with homosexuality. It means having a silly stance or posture that should be embarassing, if the beholder only knew. I suppose the opposite of this gay is cool.

No abigail05 the original meaning meant happy, it was never silly posture embarassing.

In the last few years it's been used by a younger generation as a put down, from clothing to an expression. I've never heard gay as meaning cool

you completely misread my post, but whatever. Gay did originally mean happy and that was best, wasn't it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

aiden3121 said:

I agree with you that a Parade show kills a W2A show. i have listened to the Revolution era plenty and the Revolution is most definitely not from 80 to 86. Its 83 to 86 the 80 to 82 band werent the Revolution. The Revolution era had jams but as i said before the Revolution werent as influential on Prince as some fans think. Lisa and Wendy contributed but the others hardly had any input at all the songs were pretty much Prince compositions and Lisa and Wendy added bits. The NPG from 93 to 96 (Up to Chaos and Disorder), had a telepathy it seemed with each other. The NPG of the mid 90s was the best band Prince ever had and i would love to see that lineup again. As for those albums you listed i agree they arent genius, The Revolution albums are better but what about The Symbol Album, Come, The Gold Experience? Tell me those arent genius albums. Lotusflow3r is genius too, some people think TRC is too but im not big on that one.

Yet everyone makes it like the NPG was the same from 1990-2011

And the noituloveRevolution was very influentials in many ways. Prince had a comradere with the band from the 1978-1986 that influenced Prince on a real level, even though he became a superstar via Purple Rain 1984 those were the only people that really were a part of his life before 'hollywood' hit. Prince worked out with these people, went to movies, played joke at the airport, lived with Lisa and they did laundry together. They had influences on the image of the band and the sound some more than others. These were people who helped Prince create 'Purple Music' because they did not bring their own defined careers to the table that people did after 1989

Eric Leeds was also influential with Prince and Susannah even moreso

But Sheila E & the Time as a band would have to be mentioned as well as Vanity

Here here, OF4S! There is just no comparing the rapport and musical chemistry the Revolution had with Prince with the "rapport" that ANY version of the NPG had with him.

The only version of the NPG that didn't feel like they were a bunch of anonymous session players was the early to mid-90s that included Sonny T (since he was from back in the day) and Michael B. But even they can't compare to the Revolution, let alone the SOTT/Lovesexy band!

Let's face it...the NPG is only a group of talented musicians without much chemistry and synergy. They're vanilla, not matter how good on their individual instruments they may be. They just sound like a well-trained Prince cover band.

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Spinlight said:

It's half and half. I listen to the 1981-1985 records a lot. Not so much things like Around the World In A Day, but Controversy, The Time's records, 1999, Purple Rain, Parade. However, Lotusflower is fucking genius, Rainbow Children is lost on most people but it is one of my favorites, and Emancipation and Newpower Soul (as a fourth disk since its the same damn music) are vital to my being.

Again, though, as far as live stuff is concerned... The NPG blows the Revolution completely and utterly away.

OMG! Dude, did you just list New Power Soul as something you LIKED listening to????!?!! And to think, you were one of my favorites.

Hahaha. I'm not gonna lie, I loved NPS when it came out and I can still go back to it and listen to at least half the record... Which is good for "recent" Prince music. Some of that stuff was good enough to replace tracks on Emancipation. "Come On", "The One", "Mad Sex", "Wasted Kisses", "When U Love Somebody", and "Newpower Soul"?? You can't say those aren't great songs!

alexnvrmnd777 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Yet everyone makes it like the NPG was the same from 1990-2011

And the noituloveRevolution was very influentials in many ways. Prince had a comradere with the band from the 1978-1986 that influenced Prince on a real level, even though he became a superstar via Purple Rain 1984 those were the only people that really were a part of his life before 'hollywood' hit. Prince worked out with these people, went to movies, played joke at the airport, lived with Lisa and they did laundry together. They had influences on the image of the band and the sound some more than others. These were people who helped Prince create 'Purple Music' because they did not bring their own defined careers to the table that people did after 1989

Eric Leeds was also influential with Prince and Susannah even moreso

But Sheila E & the Time as a band would have to be mentioned as well as Vanity

Here here, OF4S! There is just no comparing the rapport and musical chemistry the Revolution had with Prince with the "rapport" that ANY version of the NPG had with him.

The only version of the NPG that didn't feel like they were a bunch of anonymous session players was the early to mid-90s that included Sonny T (since he was from back in the day) and Michael B. But even they can't compare to the Revolution, let alone the SOTT/Lovesexy band!

Let's face it...the NPG is only a group of talented musicians without much chemistry and synergy. They're vanilla, not matter how good on their individual instruments they may be. They just sound like a well-trained Prince cover band.

I always looked at the SOTT band as bittersweet, because 1/2 of them were in the ext Revolution during the Parade years and of course Sheila E was a protege during the Purple Reign and I missed here 'solo' act. 1987 mean serious downsizing. Jill Jones even though she had a release was absent from the Prince scene. The SOTT band was still riding off the waves of the Revolution, most of the SOTT album/music being made with the Revolution

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Spinlight said:

It's half and half. I listen to the 1981-1985 records a lot. Not so much things like Around the World In A Day, but Controversy, The Time's records, 1999, Purple Rain, Parade. However, Lotusflower is fucking genius, Rainbow Children is lost on most people but it is one of my favorites, and Emancipation and Newpower Soul (as a fourth disk since its the same damn music) are vital to my being.

Again, though, as far as live stuff is concerned... The NPG blows the Revolution completely and utterly away.

OMG! Dude, did you just list New Power Soul as something you LIKED listening to????!?!! And to think, you were one of my favorites.

Actually, that post kind of makes me like him more. I've always loved Newpower Soul, and I like when somebody else is brave enough to say they love it.

And to answer the OP, The NPG. My favorite band was probably Gold era NPG, although I love Rhonda Smith, so maybe Emancipation era NPG. I dislike Renato, so not ONA era, and I very much dislike the Whitney Houston backup singers, so not the current NPG, but definitely the 90s NPG. I never much cared for the Revolution's sound. Maybe it's just that I don't like 80s pop music - who knows?

Anyway, I'm not sure which era I listen to most, I'd say it's pretty even, but my favorite is 93-99 (The era most people hate.)

Spinlight said:

mydrawers said:

Spin, which era do you find yourself listening to more??

It's half and half. I listen to the 1981-1985 records a lot. Not so much things like Around the World In A Day, but Controversy, The Time's records, 1999, Purple Rain, Parade. However, Lotusflower is fucking genius, Rainbow Children is lost on most people but it is one of my favorites, and Emancipation and Newpower Soul (as a fourth disk since its the same damn music) are vital to my being.

Again, though, as far as live stuff is concerned... The NPG blows the Revolution completely and utterly away.

I am VERY intrigued by this comment that "New Power Soul" is the same (type of) music as "Emancipation". I've always really, really liked Emancipation - that is, that the music is "cut from the same cloth, and I really LOVE "New Power Soul".

Next time I listen to Emancipation though, I'm going to listen to it in a new light: as an extention of the "New Power Soul" sound (in reverse actually... u know what I mean).

[Edited 7/2/11 20:38pm]

mydrawers said:

Spinlight said:

It's half and half. I listen to the 1981-1985 records a lot. Not so much things like Around the World In A Day, but Controversy, The Time's records, 1999, Purple Rain, Parade. However, Lotusflower is fucking genius, Rainbow Children is lost on most people but it is one of my favorites, and Emancipation and Newpower Soul (as a fourth disk since its the same damn music) are vital to my being.

Again, though, as far as live stuff is concerned... The NPG blows the Revolution completely and utterly away.

I am VERY intrigued by this comment that "New Power Soul" is the same (type of) music as "Emancipation". I've always really, really liked Emancipation - that is, that the music is "cut from the same cloth, and I really LOVE "New Power Soul".

Next time I listen to Emancipation though, I'm going to listen to it in a new light: as an extention of the "New Power Soul" sound (in reverse actually... u know what I mean).

[Edited 7/2/11 20:38pm]

They have almost identical production values and everything. At the time of NPS' release, the wider criticism was that the album felt like a half baked 4th emancipation disc... TO me, I think it distills some of the better aspects of Emancipation (though Emancipation is such a huge album that its easy to nitpick, IMO).

Dave1992 said:

Either could never do what the other has done. The Revolution was one of the best bands of all time (all configs.), but so was the 1993-1995/2001-2003 NPG.

The NPG band from TRC to Musicology was a VERY tight band, extremely talented, and polished. I don't think any of Prince's other bands could touch that band, with the exception of the Sign of the Times band. Most configurations of The Revolution couldn't play at the level of that NPG band. However, Prince wrote better songs while with the Revolution.

[Edited 7/3/11 0:37am]

I really enjoyed their musical diversity as well as the personality they brought to the band. I took my daughter to see Nick Jonas and the Administration last year, and it was VERY enjoyable to see Sonny, Michael and Tommy in concert again.

aiden3121 said:

I love both but definitely 93 to 95 NPG is my all time favourite lineup Michael B, Sonny T, Tommy Barbarella, Morris Hayes and you could add Levi too. I find myself listening to the late 80s through to the mid 90s most and lotusflower

4everyours said:

I really enjoyed their musical diversity as well as the personality they brought to the band. I took my daughter to see Nick Jonas and the Administration last year, and it was VERY enjoyable to see Sonny, Michael and Tommy in concert again.

aiden3121 said:

I love both but definitely 93 to 95 NPG is my all time favourite lineup Michael B, Sonny T, Tommy Barbarella, Morris Hayes and you could add Levi too. I find myself listening to the late 80s through to the mid 90s most and lotusflower

Meant for this to be down here not above the quote. oops

NPG for sure. My fav album for now is Diamonds n Pearls, but it still changes with The Gold Experience and The Love Symbol. So my fav era is '91 - '95