kewlschool said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

again, (and it's so weird that i'm on his side about something) what Prince is trying to say is that the game has changed so much that even what he did recently distribution wise with PE, 20ten and Lotusflow3r isn't going to work anymore.

He can't go and pick the label that's going to give him the best deal anymore because very soon there aren't going to BE any record labels.

There's going to be Apple and Google. And Apple DOES NOT NEGOTIATE. the rate is what it is, take it or leave it. Prince knows he won't win.

Some what agreed but it comes down to who owns the radio market. That's how record labels forced their control of the market. But when Apple or Google emerge as the new music labels (which they will) artists will sign with them. Then Apple will either buy out some radio stations or come up with the *Iradio to push their artists. The old labels will go bankrupt-sale their back catalogues to apple or(both) google.

*Iradio trademark and copyright kewlschool

no one listens to radio anymore.

it's also a dying medium.

cars are already coming with stereo systems that have hard drives so you can load your own music to listen to, or you'll stream from your device via Bluetooth or connect your device directly.

He is just creating hype, a way to generate sales, and "no plans to record another album" is a much better headline than "there's no choice"

he's right the record industry is messed up...but not for him! He has continued to make money off of his cd's even when everyone says they suck and nobody buys them.

[Edited 6/24/11 11:24am]

ButterscotchPimp said:

And with Apple's dominance in the device market, it's no big surprise that iTunes is the biggest music retailer on the planet. and what's left of the major music industry pretty much has no choice but to play ball with Apple. their recent announcement of "iTunes Plus" is really exciting and will also most likely signal the death of the music industry as we knew it.

For a modest $25 a year you will now have access to your entire music library whereever you go. So if you have 40,000 songs, even if you paid for 5,000 of them with iTunes they're going to scan and upload everything else in your library so you can access it anywhere from any Mac, iPod, iPhone or iPad. if you ripped it in a lesser quality, iTunes is going to upgrade it to a better quality. if it's a song that iTunes doesn't have (rarities, outtakes, etc) they're going to upload it and add it to your library only.

as a music fan, that's amazing. for record labels and musicians, it's a nightmare. Apple is basically insuring that you will only purchase and manage your music with them.

I guess I don't understand how this is substantially different from how iTunes works now (other than the part about having it work anywhere with multiple devices--I get how that is different, as well as the sound-quality upgrade). But in terms of uploading content to iTunes, isn't it similar--I have burned CDs to my hard drive, downloaded songs from iTunes and other places, and I've put all of them into iTunes. Under the iTunes Plus model, would I still be able to download a song from Amazon or somewhere else and load it right into iTunes?

ButterscotchPimp said:

kewlschool said:

Some what agreed but it comes down to who owns the radio market. That's how record labels forced their control of the market. But when Apple or Google emerge as the new music labels (which they will) artists will sign with them. Then Apple will either buy out some radio stations or come up with the *Iradio to push their artists. The old labels will go bankrupt-sale their back catalogues to apple or(both) google.

*Iradio trademark and copyright kewlschool

no one listens to radio anymore.

it's also a dying medium.

cars are already coming with stereo systems that have hard drives so you can load your own music to listen to, or you'll stream from your device via Bluetooth or connect your device directly.

I was just hearing a story (on the radio ) that radio is not dying, that all the time people spend in their cars does actually translate to hours spent listening to the radio.

Also, under any model of the music industry, what is stopping an artist (Prince or anyone else) from putting up a website and offering downloads and/or CDs and/or vinyl or whatever else they want to sell at a fair price? Yes, some people will share the music illegally. That's too bad, but oh, well.

Prince is just a control freak, if nothing goes his way, he complains that he's not a part of it anymore. It's nothing new. That's why it doesn't shock me that he's turned the other cheek as far as the internet goes but now he's saying "all mediums suck so I ain't releasing shit anymore". He just wants people's reactions even if it's all negative. He don't care about "piracy" as much as some folks wanna believe he does.

SquirrelMeat said:

Jokes aside with the new interview, the main thing for me is the decision (if its even true) that he won't release anymore records.

Sure it could be another thowaway statement, but it is clear his output is slowing down, and it doesn't look like there will be a 2011 album. I am in the minority and still enjoy the new albums, but judging by Prince's own reaction to promotion or live play, I think I possibly like 20ten more than him.

Do you think we should take his comments on face value, and assume that pirates are to blame?

Do you think Prince is using the pirates as an excuse to hide his disappointment in sales?

Do you think the fire has just gone out in his belly?

Do you think that JW and Larry are just eating away at him?

Personally, I think he is using the piracy argument to hide the fact that less people are buying his records than ever before. He blatantly contradicts his own arguement in the interview. He says he can't make any money because of pirates, yet he says the people making money are Apple. A legitimate pay for service. So money can be made, but not the way Prince wants.

I think Prince has a problem with the likes of Apple because they are effectively a record label, blocking Prince from the consumer. He has failed to realise that his own handling of direct consumer sales was a disaster (ie Lotusflower online).

Also, Prince has spent the last few years avoiding pirates by launching albums on a single day through publications. What has obviously gone wrong with that model? It seemed to work and he was again labelled as a pioneer. I guess is the papers won't give Prince the money he expects, as less people are interested in his CD's that ever before. He has cheapened his product, just like the crtitics warned at the time.

Then there is the most obvious route. Go back to giving the new music with a concert ticket. No need for pirates. Fresh jelly, straight to the fans. But he doesn't want to.

Has he simply lost his mojo? Is he frustrated with the success of his own past?

What do you think?

No.

1) Its about control and not being taken advantage of (in his definition of those terms) and

2) He come to see/use religion as a way to justify his living outside of what the world wants of him and that buys him the space he wants to live life on his terms while at the same time giving him the impression/understanding that while he's living life on his own terms he's not necessarily alone because his religious community is one of parriahs.

Timmy84 said:

daPrettyman said:

I've been thinking about this same thing for the last few hours (after reading the interview).

To me, if Prince is tired of the digital revolution (like he says he is), he should find other ways to release music. I personally think he should release a new album on vinyl only. No cds or any other format other than vinyl. Don't have an mp3 code in it or anything. That way, he would make a statement to the world and we will see how many copies he sells.

I really think he could do well doing this.

Also, if people are going to pirate the music, they will have to "work" to do it.

If he had really wanted to thumb his nose at the digital scene, he should've released 20Ten on vinyl but he didn't do that, now did he?

I don't think 20Ten should have ever been released. It is among my least favorite Prince albums of all time. I just can't make it through that mess.

Back to the topic at hand...I think he could find ways to be profitable by selling music through traditional means. I really think he is wining because radio won't play his stuff. If that's the case, he should start his own station (like Stevie Wonder) and play what he wants on it.

Stevie's station is "radio free" and they play hits and non-hits from different artists. Stevie also pulls out his own album trax. I don't understand why P can't do something like that.

Haven't read the whole interview but a couple thoughts in response to the post...

Piracy & the new business model is definitely hurting legacy acts whose new records don't make the charts. Prince is in roughly the same boat as Neil Young, an artist with a big fan base that goes back a long time, whose best work is probably behind him but who still makes records that his fan base usually considers to be worth getting.

In 2003 Neil's album "Greendale" came out & got pretty strong reviews. He toured all summer in the US and ended up selling about 300,000 copies without any kind of radio hit or music video.

Last year, Neil released an album called "Le Noise" which also got strong reviews. He toured the US, in somewhat smaller venues, but for about the same amount of time. This album sold 50,000 copies.

The albums are equally good, in fact Le Noise is probably better. The fan base hasn't changed much, he still draws about the same in concert. And yet the sales of a well-received new album are one-sixth the amount they were 8 years ago.

Ouch.

Now how Prince chooses to respond is his own business. If he had an album of jamming new stuff that he was itching to get heard, I have to imagine he'd find a way to get it out there and at least make back his cost of recording it. I did hear some cool new songs at the LA run! I hope he changes his mind at some point. If not oh well.

And yeah I wouldn't take his logic & reasoning too seriously. Dude tells George Lopez he wants to prevent cover tunes from being played, then the next day does six covers in his own set. His comments are for entertainment purposes only.

this is no dig at Prince but I am always asking my brother and friends "didn't we always have piracy?" I remember being broke as fuck and not buying my first album til I was 16, we used to tape songs off the radio and tape albums, anything to get to the music. Even now, i don't have the 20 bucks for new cd's and rarely buy any. If the music is good people will do anything to get it, if it's not they won't lift a finger. I didn't start buying Prince albums until well after I'd heard lots of stuff from friends and family.

ButterscotchPimp said:

kewlschool said:

Some what agreed but it comes down to who owns the radio market. That's how record labels forced their control of the market. But when Apple or Google emerge as the new music labels (which they will) artists will sign with them. Then Apple will either buy out some radio stations or come up with the *Iradio to push their artists. The old labels will go bankrupt-sale their back catalogues to apple or(both) google.

*Iradio trademark and copyright kewlschool

no one listens to radio anymore.

it's also a dying medium.

cars are already coming with stereo systems that have hard drives so you can load your own music to listen to, or you'll stream from your device via Bluetooth or connect your device directly.

That's not necessarilly true.

What you're saying is true if you live in a major city, but for someone in Smalltown, USA, they still get their new music from traditional radio. Sure, Pandora, SiriusXM, etc are there, but the majority of the people are still listening to radio.

Bottom line is that there will always be some new way of getting new music. Prince just needs to stop talking to the press about the digital revolution. He winds up saying things like "the internet is dead" etc.

Isn't every form of entertainment (except maybe movies) facing similar circumstances? The most popular TV shows have far fewer viewers than the average episode of Laverne & Shirley did in the '70s. Top 10 books sell miniscule numbers compared to ages past. With far greater access to an overwhelming amount of entertainment, the numbers are spread out much thinner. Maybe artists of every kind have to make their peace with that.

Efan said:

Also, under any model of the music industry, what is stopping an artist (Prince or anyone else) from putting up a website and offering downloads and/or CDs and/or vinyl or whatever else they want to sell at a fair price? Yes, some people will share the music illegally. That's too bad, but oh, well.

I totally agree.

My problem with an artist like Prince is that he would try to charge some outrageous amount for an album if he did that. I mean, charging $77 for 3 cds on his own site is waaayyy overpriced. Not to mention charging $25 for a cassette of Kamasutra or $15 for a cassette single (NYC Cassette).

Efan said:

Isn't every form of entertainment (except maybe movies) facing similar circumstances? The most popular TV shows have far fewer viewers than the average episode of Laverne & Shirley did in the '70s. Top 10 books sell miniscule numbers compared to ages past. With far greater access to an overwhelming amount of entertainment, the numbers are spread out much thinner. Maybe artists of every kind have to make their peace with that.

They're gonna have to. It's a new ballgame now. All their protests about saving this and that are falling on deaf ears. It just makes them sound old and Prince is definitely sounding like one of those "I remember when I wore that Jheri Curl" type of motherfuckers now.

Efan said:

Isn't every form of entertainment (except maybe movies) facing similar circumstances? The most popular TV shows have far fewer viewers than the average episode of Laverne & Shirley did in the '70s. Top 10 books sell miniscule numbers compared to ages past. With far greater access to an overwhelming amount of entertainment, the numbers are spread out much thinner. Maybe artists of every kind have to make their peace with that.

I think so, I've heard successful authors bitching about the revolution and saying they won't sell spindles. Most of it is just greed and/or narcissism of which there is no shortage in the arts. Most of these guys already made their money and their mark, the guys to really feel for are the ones on the cusp who will never really be able to get over this hump.

Efan said:

Isn't every form of entertainment (except maybe movies) facing similar circumstances? The most popular TV shows have far fewer viewers than the average episode of Laverne & Shirley did in the '70s. Top 10 books sell miniscule numbers compared to ages past. With far greater access to an overwhelming amount of entertainment, the numbers are spread out much thinner. Maybe artists of every kind have to make their peace with that.

Yep.

I think a lot of it has to do with there are so many options for people to choose from. We used to only have 3 major networks that determined all of the television for the country. Now we have hundreds of channels that all offer different types of programming.

The same can be said for radio/music. As someone pointed out earlier, radio is not the same because you have cell phones that can play virtually any station that streams, satellite radio, and cars that are equipped with harddrives. People have options now.

I still don't buy the argument that there won't be record companies anymore. An artist doesn't really need a record company to release music, but they come in handy when it comes to marketing and promotion more than anything.

and let us not forget, artists love to point fingers when their stuff is not successful, it's either the company's promotional shortcomings or anything other than their new stuff not being as good.

daPrettyman said:

Efan said:

Isn't every form of entertainment (except maybe movies) facing similar circumstances? The most popular TV shows have far fewer viewers than the average episode of Laverne & Shirley did in the '70s. Top 10 books sell miniscule numbers compared to ages past. With far greater access to an overwhelming amount of entertainment, the numbers are spread out much thinner. Maybe artists of every kind have to make their peace with that.

Yep.

I think a lot of it has to do with there are so many options for people to choose from. We used to only have 3 major networks that determined all of the television for the country. Now we have hundreds of channels that all offer different types of programming.

The same can be said for radio/music. As someone pointed out earlier, radio is not the same because you have cell phones that can play virtually any station that streams, satellite radio, and cars that are equipped with harddrives. People have options now.

I still don't buy the argument that there won't be record companies anymore. An artist doesn't really need a record company to release music, but they come in handy when it comes to marketing and promotion more than anything.

Yeah I think people are too bold to say that they will die. It won't, yeah it'll probably be in conglomerates but there's still new labels popping up. I was shocked myself when I discovered the new artists signing with labels with weird but interesting names. The world is different and the older guys are pissed. So I'm not shocked Prince would even go this route. I guess it was kinda expected considering his issues with control.

All of Prince's problems seem to be connected. One starting point is that he doesn't just want to be a successful musician. He wants to be a super-wealthy rock star who can afford to record an infinite number of videos and songs that will never be released; who can rent a multi-million dollar mansion and paint everything purple just for the hell of it; who can give huge checks to charities and be worshipped as an icon of philanthropy; etc. But he can't sustain that lifestyle from releasing new music, or even remasters, given the state of the music industry. So he looks to live shows for the big money. But it's hard to really pack the house when you have no new album, your old albums haven't been remastered (except on vinyl), and you have no record label to promote you. Also, he can't get his financial affairs in order, probably because he doesn't trust music industry professionals to manage things for him. So he blames his fans and turns to religion or conspiracy theories or whatever.

The man needs therapy.

Prince is obviously a talented jerk with a "Napoleon complex". There's no need to defend his actions whatsoever. The guys been lost for years, & doesn't seem to know how to find himself again. It's hard to root for him on any of this stuff. He owes nothing but live shows in his opinion right now, so take it or leave it. All [mostly] everyone does on here is complain about his new music anyway. Most of you should be happy about this decision....[I was fine with getting new music personally]

...Oh, & btw, It's the fans fault for [mostly] all of this. [it is too]

Prince is a fella from the past, from the 20th Century. As I've said many times before, he "died" in 2000 and "resurrected" the following year. This "new" man is still weirder and more stubborn than the one who proceeded him. The Internet is dead? Whatever Prince. As long as he refuses to embrace stuff like iTunes, etc. he will be the eternal outcast...without new albums, talkin' about the good old days, about the Islamic countries, about the JW...just "touring" the States and then some scattered european gigs, which will be, likely, cancelled...

bleak scenario, if you ask me...

the 3121 days were a friggin' mirage ...

that said, he will probably "release" (don't know how) a new album in 2012...

... if Prince stopped recording recording right now and never released another album, he's set his bar and made his mark in the history of music. I don't think he lost his 'mojo', though. I've been a admirer of his music since 1996 so I'm a lil late to the party and have to re-live the moments of the past thru fam that's been there since day one.

IMHO he hasn't lost his 'mojo', he's just coastin' now. There may not be nothin' more to say besides just performin' at live venues. I 'PRAY' there's more new music and albums but, only time'll tell.

SquirrelMeat said:

Jokes aside with the new interview, the main thing for me is the decision (if its even true) that he won't release anymore records.

Sure it could be another thowaway statement, but it is clear his output is slowing down, and it doesn't look like there will be a 2011 album. I am in the minority and still enjoy the new albums, but judging by Prince's own reaction to promotion or live play, I think I possibly like 20ten more than him.

Do you think we should take his comments on face value, and assume that pirates are to blame?

Do you think Prince is using the pirates as an excuse to hide his disappointment in sales?

Do you think the fire has just gone out in his belly?

Do you think that JW and Larry are just eating away at him?

Personally, I think he is using the piracy argument to hide the fact that less people are buying his records than ever before. He blatantly contradicts his own arguement in the interview. He says he can't make any money because of pirates, yet he says the people making money are Apple. A legitimate pay for service. So money can be made, but not the way Prince wants.

I think Prince has a problem with the likes of Apple because they are effectively a record label, blocking Prince from the consumer. He has failed to realise that his own handling of direct consumer sales was a disaster (ie Lotusflower online).

Also, Prince has spent the last few years avoiding pirates by launching albums on a single day through publications. What has obviously gone wrong with that model? It seemed to work and he was again labelled as a pioneer. I guess is the papers won't give Prince the money he expects, as less people are interested in his CD's that ever before. He has cheapened his product, just like the crtitics warned at the time.

Then there is the most obvious route. Go back to giving the new music with a concert ticket. No need for pirates. Fresh jelly, straight to the fans. But he doesn't want to.

Has he simply lost his mojo? Is he frustrated with the success of his own past?

What do you think?

He is not making any money off of the recordings and I think he has no chance of getting a deal at least not on his terms.

bobzilla77 said:

Haven't read the whole interview but a couple thoughts in response to the post...

Piracy & the new business model is definitely hurting legacy acts whose new records don't make the charts. Prince is in roughly the same boat as Neil Young, an artist with a big fan base that goes back a long time, whose best work is probably behind him but who still makes records that his fan base usually considers to be worth getting.

In 2003 Neil's album "Greendale" came out & got pretty strong reviews. He toured all summer in the US and ended up selling about 300,000 copies without any kind of radio hit or music video.

Last year, Neil released an album called "Le Noise" which also got strong reviews. He toured the US, in somewhat smaller venues, but for about the same amount of time. This album sold 50,000 copies.

The albums are equally good, in fact Le Noise is probably better. The fan base hasn't changed much, he still draws about the same in concert. And yet the sales of a well-received new album are one-sixth the amount they were 8 years ago.

Ouch.

Now how Prince chooses to respond is his own business. If he had an album of jamming new stuff that he was itching to get heard, I have to imagine he'd find a way to get it out there and at least make back his cost of recording it. I did hear some cool new songs at the LA run! I hope he changes his mind at some point. If not oh well.

And yeah I wouldn't take his logic & reasoning too seriously. Dude tells George Lopez he wants to prevent cover tunes from being played, then the next day does six covers in his own set. His comments are for entertainment purposes only.

I think thats really good point.

But in Prince's case, he's now feeling the back end of his own fight. Legacy acts wanted to break away and get a bigger cut. Prince, Radiohead etc. At the time, there was a critisism that it would stop investment in new artists, and that the established acts were looking after themselves and sticking two fingers up to the businesses that helped them make it.

A few years on, and new acts are coming through. Controlled more than ever by big business. Radiohead continue to make money with good products and partnerships with retail.

Prince? He has literally burned all the bridges with his control obession. He has cut off revenue opportunities from a great deal of promoters, labels and scorned artists.

Didn't he said in the Lopez tonight interview that he ''recording too much'' or something?

He said that he is ''recording rehab'' but that doesn't mean that he wouldn't record anymore.. I think that's been taking a bit out of context in the guardian interview. And if he really said that, I wouldn't really believe it, so many artists said this, and look they still came back with a new album. Music is his blood, and he knows it.

electricberet said:

All of Prince's problems seem to be connected. One starting point is that he doesn't just want to be a successful musician. He wants to be a super-wealthy rock star who can afford to record an infinite number of videos and songs that will never be released; who can rent a multi-million dollar mansion and paint everything purple just for the hell of it; who can give huge checks to charities and be worshipped as an icon of philanthropy; etc. But he can't sustain that lifestyle from releasing new music, or even remasters, given the state of the music industry. So he looks to live shows for the big money. But it's hard to really pack the house when you have no new album, your old albums haven't been remastered (except on vinyl), and you have no record label to promote you. Also, he can't get his financial affairs in order, probably because he doesn't trust music industry professionals to manage things for him. So he blames his fans and turns to religion or conspiracy theories or whatever.

The man needs therapy.

Me in my Prince voice - "I seek therapy through The Bible. It is the only therapy we need."

Prince explains his answers on Dr. Funkenberry:

http://www.drfunkenberry....-2-prince/

So, Prince is getting ready to embark on a European tour that actually kicks off with dates in Canada this weekend. For the European tour, Prince did 3 interviews we are told. 2 of them at the same time. 1 was with the Guardian and Le Parisian both interviewing him at the same time.

The Guardian had quoted Prince...or mis-quoted....as it did not go into detail of what his answer or answers were. Since Prince does not allow recording devices, this does some times happen. We are running what the Le Parisian wrote as it is more detailed and has more length to Prince's answers to the questions he was asked;

We almost fainted when he heard on the phone: "It's for tomorrow. Get ready. "A few days before his unique concert at Stade de France on June 30, Prince is visiting Paris. And he wanted to talk. The incredible news - we have not slept all night - will be confirmed: "Be there at 19.00 hours.(7pm)

Not allowed to record anything. If he likes you, you have time. "Go to a selected restaurant near the Champs-Elysees. Feverish, we are led into an empty room upstairs. An hour passes. Suddenly, Prince appears. Alone, without bodyguards or entourage. Smiling, all in black, a silver chain around his neck, he tends a firm handshake, apologizes for being late, asks "How are you? "And" What's there fun to do tonight in Paris? "Sits on the bench, ordering a green tea," Go, discussions. "

You played at the Zenith, Bercy, the Parc des Princes. Stade de France ... is the missing one from your list of conquests?

Prince. The thing is, I have a group of incredible quality. It's like a basketball all star team: each one is a champion in their field. When we play together, there is such an overflow of energy it takes at least a stadium/stage to greet it.

What will the show look like on 30th June?

"There will be many surprises. What I can tell you is that by playing in New York and Los Angeles it resulted in a very controlled show. This stage is at the end."

We know that you rehearse a lot. How do you work with your group?

"I love being a tyrant (smile). But with love. I ask from them a very high level of excellence, but they are also perfectionists."

What do you remember of the 1980's?

"Michael (Editor's note: Jackson) and I appeared at a time when there was nothing. On MTV, there was nothing. People dressed like they were going to the supermarket. We were the exceptions."

Are you nostalgic for that time?

"Sometimes yes. Sometimes I see the shirts/clothes that I was wearing. But musically, no. I play more guitar, I sing better, I am a better arranger."

Are you working on a new album?

"I no longer records songs. I do not want to record as long as the crisis in the music industry will not be resolved. No one earns money. I'll go to the White House to discuss with the government the issues on copyright. It's the Wild West. Everything must be clean."

But you had been one of the first artists to use the Internet ...

"Yes, but at that time, we made money."

You very early on went to war against the record companies ...

"A record company boss told me, straight in the eye: "But, Prince, you do still believe that our goal is to make you earn money? "I was accused of distributing my album" Planet Earth "with an English newspaper, but it allowed me to reach 2 million people. I fought for control over my records. From there, no one dictated to me what I should do."

Is it true that you have hundreds of songs in your files?

"That's true. I listen to some of them with my band and they give me feedback on them."

What do you do between concerts/shows/gigs?

"I study. I learn. I like to talk to people. In all the countries I go to, I meet the people. For example I'm going back to/returning to Morocco. I really like the Muslim culture. I don't understand what people have against veiled women/women in bhurkhas. How can you stop people dressing how/the way they want to?"

The people you meet are they very intimidated by you?

"No, I am very easy to access. Here, for example, do you feel uncomfortable with me? No! Celebrity means nothing in reality, we are all the same."

When you are in Paris, what do you do?

"I go out at night. During the day I can not. The days when I could still walk the streets without being harassed by the paparazzi are long gone."

It seems/would appear you don't like your songs being covered?

"First of all it's lazy. Then/secondly its as if you've erased/ruined/wiped out the original version. This only happens only in music. Can you imagine if everybody did their own version of the Harry Potter film or book? Do you want to hear somebody else singing 'Kiss'? Not me."

You don't have any wrinkles (you haven't aged a bit), what's your secret?

"Time is a spiritual thing (you're as young as you feel). God doesn't count the passing years. He doesn't have any date of birth in the Bible. I don't celebrate my birthdays any more. If you stay active, if you learn new things (keep learning), if you travel, then you stay young."

2 interviews. Done at the same time. Yet, one has more fuller answers and more attention to detail. Very interesting. Was there an agenda? I rather Prince talk about music and performances all day long. It's like watching Michael Jordan. I care about his skills on the court. Could care less that he loves McDonalds and wears Hanes underwear. Calvin Kleins are softer Michael, just for the record.

So what do you all think happened here? I am glad there was some clarification and not just sound bites.-Dr.FB

Diagnosis: Whatever You Think....Is True

I think Prince put it clearly when he was on Lopez Tonight - "People don't value things you can get for free". That's just the way he is

ButterscotchPimp said:

kewlschool said:

Some what agreed but it comes down to who owns the radio market. That's how record labels forced their control of the market. But when Apple or Google emerge as the new music labels (which they will) artists will sign with them. Then Apple will either buy out some radio stations or come up with the *Iradio to push their artists. The old labels will go bankrupt-sale their back catalogues to apple or(both) google.

*Iradio trademark and copyright kewlschool

no one listens to radio anymore.

it's also a dying medium.

cars are already coming with stereo systems that have hard drives so you can load your own music to listen to, or you'll stream from your device via Bluetooth or connect your device directly.

I either listen to my music on disc or XM radio so I lnow what you're sayin' BSP (co-sign). Too many commercials on radio and they play the same damn music over and over and did I say 'over' again ...