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Thread started 06/16/11 7:35pm

Imaginative

Homemade Deluxe Editions

Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?

Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping

Who needs remasters?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]

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Reply #1 posted 06/16/11 7:48pm

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Imaginative said:

Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?

Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping

Who needs remasters?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]

Are they in good quality?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:48pm]

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Reply #2 posted 06/16/11 9:24pm

Imaginative

trn22 said:



Imaginative said:


Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?



Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping



Who needs remasters?


[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]



Are they in good quality?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:48pm]



Yes, the vinyl needle drops of the original albums have some surface noise, so they don't replace the official versions. The bonus material are all supposed to be the best circulating versions. They are distributed as lossless flac.
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Reply #3 posted 06/17/11 12:38am

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Imaginative said:

Who needs remasters?

Uhm, everyone?

I think I've seen these on a blog once, If you enjoy these fan comps great - but it's not like there's anything new here - anyone can do the same with a spare 5 minutes and an iTunes playlist - no doubt most of us have wink

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Reply #4 posted 06/17/11 2:09am

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They should redo "Dirty Mind", "Controvery", "1999", and "Purple Rain" with the latest vinyl releases. Other than that, I guess it's a cool project.

"Prince" and "Graffiti Bridge" could be interesting, as they probably include the slightly different versions of "Still Waiting" and "Joy in Repetition" (not released on CD).

For more information, see:

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1980

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1990

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Reply #5 posted 06/17/11 3:00am

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Imaginative said:

Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?

Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping

Who needs remasters?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]

U can't share where these cds can be obtained > We understand perfectly that but u can share the covers & traxlist of these cds or digital files i think on this forum !

Thanx

[Edited 6/17/11 3:01am]

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Reply #6 posted 06/17/11 3:58am

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Imaginative said:

Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?

Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping

Who needs remasters?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]

There isn't 7 discs of material for an SOTT deluxe edition lol. Not unless you include "Dream Factory" and "Camille" as part of that. Even then there probably wouldn't be 7 discs unless there's live stuff in there as well. I guess there's rehearsal audio and the audio of the SOTT concert film included in that?

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Reply #7 posted 06/17/11 5:41am

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"Sign O' The Times: Ridiculously Deluxe Edition"

Disc 1: Sign O’ The Times

This is a rip of an original US vinyl issue of the Sign O’ The Times album. All declicking was performed manually. Each side was normalized before tracks were seperated so the presentation should mirror that of an actual LP.

Disc 2: B-Sides and Non-Album Tracks

Tracks 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10 and 11 are taken from T’s 12” Archive V2.0 compilation. Tracks 2 and 6 are taken from the official Crystal Ball compilation released in 1998. Track 9 is taken from the soundtrack to Bright Lights, Big City.

Disc 3: Dream Factory

This is the version of Dream Factory issued by Thunderball Records.

Disc 4: Camille

This version of the Camille album was assembled by myself from the following sources. Tracks 2, 3 and 7 are taken from the US CD issue of Sign O’ The Times. Track 8 is taken from the US CD issue of The Black Album. Tracks 4 and 5 are taken from T’s 12” Archive V2.0 compilation. Track 1 is taken from Work It 2.0 compilation. Track 6 is an edit of the version of Good Love that appears on the Bright Lights, Big City soundtrack and was made to reflect the length of the version that appears on the 1998 Crystal Ball compilation. All edits are based on assumed data about the official Camille album which remains unreleased in full and is not in wide circulation within the Prince fan community.

Disc 5: The Black Album

This is a rip of an official 1994 German vinyl release of The Black Album. All declicking was performed manually. Each side was normalized before tracks were seperated so the presentation should mirror that of an actual LP.

Disc 6: Outtakes

Tracks 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, 15, 17 and 18 are taken from the Work It 2.0 compilation. Tracks 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 and 16 are taken from FBG’s Box O’ Chocolates compilation with kind permission granted from all parties associated. Tracks 1 and 2 are taken from the Crucial bootleg.

Disc 7: Additional Outtakes

Track 3 taken from T’s 1987 compilation. All other tracks taken from the Work It 2.0 compilation.

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Reply #8 posted 06/17/11 6:06am

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I suppose these things are handy for newbies.

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Reply #9 posted 06/17/11 6:19am

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olb99 said:

Disc 5: The Black Album

This is a rip of an official 1994 German vinyl release of The Black Album. All declicking was performed manually. Each side was normalized before tracks were seperated so the presentation should mirror that of an actual LP.

How does that sound, compared to the '94 release?

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Reply #10 posted 06/17/11 6:19am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

I suppose these things are handy for newbies.

Or if you don't have the vinyls and want to check if the sound is really better than on the CDs.

That's my case. I've been a fan since 1989 (so I'm definitely not a newbie), but I bought all the albums on CD. I have a lot of maxi-singles and related artists albums on vinyl, but not a single Prince album.

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Reply #11 posted 06/17/11 6:21am

love2thenines2
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olb99 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

I suppose these things are handy for newbies.

Or if you don't have the vinyls and want to check if the sound is really better than on the CDs...

[Edited 6/17/11 6:20am]

Do u have the covers for the cds??

thanx

cool

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Reply #12 posted 06/17/11 6:22am

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olb99 said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

I suppose these things are handy for newbies.

Or if you don't have the vinyls and want to check if the sound is really better than on the CDs...

[Edited 6/17/11 6:20am]

Indeed.

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Reply #13 posted 06/17/11 6:25am

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Imaginative said:

Unfortunately, I can't share where these can be obtained, but I'm wondering if anyone else is listening to the Prince: Homemade Deluxe Editions?

Basically a fan [thank you!] is doing with Prince, what "Purple Chick" did with The Beatles, compile the best available vinyl rip, along with all of the circulating outtakes, B-sides, demos, etc. in a Deluxe Edition! The Sign O' the Times is 7 discs! clapping

Who needs remasters?

[Edited 6/16/11 19:36pm]

'Imaginative'??? Are you a would-be me? eek

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Reply #14 posted 06/17/11 6:34am

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love2thenines2003 said:

Do u have the covers for the cds??

No. I haven't downloaded anything yet. But, as for everything in life, Google is your friend. wink

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Reply #15 posted 06/17/11 7:07am

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I dl these every time a new one comes out, but I've never actually listened to one. shrug

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Reply #16 posted 06/17/11 8:29am

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TheDigitalGardener said:

I suppose these things are handy for newbies.

My thoughts exactly.

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Reply #17 posted 06/17/11 10:15am

vitriol

I won't be bothered getting these.

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Reply #18 posted 06/18/11 7:49am

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olb99 said:

They should redo "Dirty Mind", "Controvery", "1999", and "Purple Rain" with the latest vinyl releases. Other than that, I guess it's a cool project.

"Prince" and "Graffiti Bridge" could be interesting, as they probably include the slightly different versions of "Still Waiting" and "Joy in Repetition" (not released on CD).

For more information, see:

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1980

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1990

So, I downloaded "Prince" and "Graffiti Bridge" ("Homemade Deluxe Editions"). The intro to "Still Waiting" is indeed longer on the vinyl than on the CD version (melody repeated twice). The vinyl version of "Joy in Repetition" is the same as the CD version, though. I guess only the cassette version is different (slightly longer end).

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Reply #19 posted 07/14/11 1:07pm

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Is the vinyl rip better than CD quality?

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Reply #20 posted 07/14/11 2:37pm

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olb99 said:

olb99 said:

They should redo "Dirty Mind", "Controvery", "1999", and "Purple Rain" with the latest vinyl releases. Other than that, I guess it's a cool project.

"Prince" and "Graffiti Bridge" could be interesting, as they probably include the slightly different versions of "Still Waiting" and "Joy in Repetition" (not released on CD).

For more information, see:

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1980

https://sites.google.com/...raphy/1990

So, I downloaded "Prince" and "Graffiti Bridge" ("Homemade Deluxe Editions"). The intro to "Still Waiting" is indeed longer on the vinyl than on the CD version (melody repeated twice). The vinyl version of "Joy in Repetition" is the same as the CD version, though. I guess only the cassette version is different (slightly longer end).

Thanks for clearing that up! Always wanted 2 know

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Reply #21 posted 07/14/11 7:18pm

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bobgeorge2 said:

Is the vinyl rip better than CD quality?

In my opinion, no. The original vinyl sounds better than the CD, but the CD sounds better than this particular vinyl rip. I've yet to hear a circulating vinyl rip that sounds better than the original CDs.

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Reply #22 posted 07/15/11 7:50am

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electricberet said:

bobgeorge2 said:

Is the vinyl rip better than CD quality?

In my opinion, no. The original vinyl sounds better than the CD, but the CD sounds better than this particular vinyl rip. I've yet to hear a circulating vinyl rip that sounds better than the original CDs.

Vinyl is better when:

The vinyl is pristine, no scratches, pops or hisses

The turntable is high quality

The amp & speakers are high quality

Digitizing the analog signal of the LPs will not create a "better" sound than CD. It may, however, create a "preferable" sound than the CD, particularly for albums that were not properly mastered for CD...

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Reply #23 posted 07/15/11 9:00am

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djThunderfunk said:

electricberet said:

In my opinion, no. The original vinyl sounds better than the CD, but the CD sounds better than this particular vinyl rip. I've yet to hear a circulating vinyl rip that sounds better than the original CDs.

Vinyl is better when:

The vinyl is pristine, no scratches, pops or hisses

The turntable is high quality

The amp & speakers are high quality

Digitizing the analog signal of the LPs will not create a "better" sound than CD. It may, however, create a "preferable" sound than the CD, particularly for albums that were not properly mastered for CD...

It doesn't cost anything to download these homemade editions, so each person can decide his or her own preference. I downloaded the SOTT vinyl rip and several others and put them on my ipod, but I decided that I liked the CD versions better. Mint condition vinyl on my system beats any of the digital versions, so it's just a question of what I want to listen to when I'm out of the house or exercising. I prefer to listen to the original CDs and I think some of the criticism of them is overblown. They sound a lot better than some of the loud remasters from the late 1990s and early 2000s. A good digital remaster using little or no compression could sound better, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

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Reply #24 posted 07/15/11 9:19am

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electricberet said:

It doesn't cost anything to download these homemade editions, so each person can decide his or her own preference. I downloaded the SOTT vinyl rip and several others and put them on my ipod, but I decided that I liked the CD versions better. Mint condition vinyl on my system beats any of the digital versions, so it's just a question of what I want to listen to when I'm out of the house or exercising. I prefer to listen to the original CDs and I think some of the criticism of them is overblown. They sound a lot better than some of the loud remasters from the late 1990s and early 2000s. A good digital remaster using little or no compression could sound better, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

yeahthat

I agree that the CDs are not as bad as people claim. They are in need of a remaster which could make them much better, BUT, as you pointed out, it's just as likely a remaster would be too loud and too compressed (to compete with current craptacular standards) and therefor NOT sound better than the original CD releases.

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Reply #25 posted 07/16/11 1:37am

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Thanks for answering my question , think i'll download them and decide what i like best.

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