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Thread started 05/25/11 11:54am

alphachannel

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Extended Versions

Seemingly the 12" versions of Prince's singles (in particular his releases through the mid-80's) are more complete versions that were cut down for the album (Let's Go Crazy, America), lengthened after the fact (Pop Life, Mountains) or totally re-recorded (I Would Die 4 U) but there are a few that I'm not at all sure about.

Anyone know whether these songs

a) were edited for the album

b) extended after the album version was finished or

c) recorded anew:

Little Red Corvette

Let's Work

Sexy Dancer

Thieves in the Temple

Raspberry Beret

Paisley Park

Thanks as always everyone!

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Reply #1 posted 05/25/11 12:16pm

OldFriends4Sal
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alphachannel said:

Seemingly the 12" versions of Prince's singles (in particular his releases through the mid-80's) are more complete versions that were cut down for the album (Let's Go Crazy, America), lengthened after the fact (Pop Life, Mountains) or totally re-recorded (I Would Die 4 U) but there are a few that I'm not at all sure about.

Anyone know whether these songs

a) were edited for the album

b) extended after the album version was finished or

c) recorded anew:

Little Red Corvette

Let's Work

Sexy Dancer

Thieves in the Temple

Raspberry Beret

Paisley Park

Thanks as always everyone!

don't know about Thieves in the Temple

But I believe the others were edited afterward before the album release

Alot of the music then was edited down

Most of the 1999 music is the original song (not edited down)

Sexy Dancer/Let's Work edited

Let's Go Crazy edited 4 album

Take Me With U edited

the Beautiful Ones edited

Computer Blue seriously edited

Darling Nikki edited

I Would Die 4 U edited

Purple Rain edited

Plus a few of these songs were 'recorded live' so editing was done 4 that too

Kiss I believe the long version was created/added afterward

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Reply #2 posted 05/25/11 12:19pm

ThomasBjj

Little Red Corvette - to me it sounds like he added the "extended parts" after the fact.

Raspberry Beret - tacked on a new beginning, hard to say about the exteneded ending. I would think it would be difficult to reproduce the exact same sound many months after the fact, so I would guess the exteneded ending was recorded the same time as the original in preperation for use on the 12" single

Paisley Park - is the album version with added sound effects chopped in and on top of the normal track for the most part. obviously done after the fact.

Thieves in the temple - sounds to me like the exteneded parts were done later.

Lets Work - hard to say. Im pretty sure the additional vocals ("work it.. work it..") were added later, but who knows if the music was done in the same session.

Sexy Dancer - never heard it. are there signifigant differences?

Those are just my opinions, of course.

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Reply #3 posted 05/25/11 12:27pm

alphachannel

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ThomasBjj said:

Sexy Dancer - never heard it. are there signifigant differences?

Yeah it's much longer with additional solos -- similar to the 1980 live version

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Reply #4 posted 05/25/11 1:00pm

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I doubt he would have extended them later LOL.

He would have recorded what we call extended versions first then just taken an edit of these for album release.

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Reply #5 posted 05/25/11 1:12pm

Timmy84

Parts of the extended "Let's Work" were remixed. I doubt the DJ mix of "Controversy" and parts of LW played backwards and parts of "Annie Christian" sampled were part of the original track but his "work it" screams could've been part of the original track though. But who knows?

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Reply #6 posted 05/25/11 1:53pm

Optimus2

is just me or are 80% pf those extended versions pointless?...and add nothing 2 the song?....the best extended version 4 me was Another Lonley Christmas with that added verse (best verse imo) and the guitar solo at the end..........however the others are just boring extended instrumentals...tut

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Reply #7 posted 05/25/11 1:54pm

Timmy84

Optimus2 said:

is just me or are 80% pf those extended versions pointless?...and add nothing 2 the song?....the best extended version 4 me was Another Lonley Christmas with that added verse (best verse imo) and the guitar solo at the end..........however the others are just boring extended instrumentals...tut

I don't know but the extended mix of "Let's Work" is the business. music

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Reply #8 posted 05/25/11 2:00pm

BorisFishpaw

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alphachannel said:

Seemingly the 12" versions of Prince's singles (in particular his releases through the mid-80's) are more complete versions that were cut down for the album (Let's Go Crazy, America), lengthened after the fact (Pop Life, Mountains) or totally re-recorded (I Would Die 4 U) but there are a few that I'm not at all sure about.

Anyone know whether these songs

a) were edited for the album

b) extended after the album version was finished or

c) recorded anew:

Little Red Corvette

Let's Work

Sexy Dancer

Thieves in the Temple

Raspberry Beret

Paisley Park

Thanks as always everyone!

The long version of Sexy Dancer is in fact the original unedited version of the song. All the other tracks you've mentioned were remixed or extended afterwards.

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Reply #9 posted 05/25/11 2:03pm

Timmy84

BorisFishpaw said:

alphachannel said:

Seemingly the 12" versions of Prince's singles (in particular his releases through the mid-80's) are more complete versions that were cut down for the album (Let's Go Crazy, America), lengthened after the fact (Pop Life, Mountains) or totally re-recorded (I Would Die 4 U) but there are a few that I'm not at all sure about.

Anyone know whether these songs

a) were edited for the album

b) extended after the album version was finished or

c) recorded anew:

Little Red Corvette

Let's Work

Sexy Dancer

Thieves in the Temple

Raspberry Beret

Paisley Park

Thanks as always everyone!

The long version of Sexy Dancer is in fact the original unedited version of the song. All the other tracks you've mentioned were remixed or extended afterwards.

The longer "Sexy Dancer" is a real club THROWDOWN!!!! nod

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Reply #10 posted 05/25/11 3:03pm

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

I doubt he would have extended them later LOL.

He would have recorded what we call extended versions first then just taken an edit of these for album release.

Sometimes...

...not always,

Little Red Corvette for instance was clearly added to later, after the fact to create an extended version. Kiss as well. Probably others.

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Reply #11 posted 05/25/11 7:52pm

mzsadii

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Timmy84 said:

BorisFishpaw said:

The long version of Sexy Dancer is in fact the original unedited version of the song. All the other tracks you've mentioned were remixed or extended afterwards.

The longer "Sexy Dancer" is a real club THROWDOWN!!!! nod

yeahthat I love watching this live. P does Work that body.

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Reply #12 posted 05/26/11 7:48am

Genesia

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Timmy84 said:

BorisFishpaw said:

The long version of Sexy Dancer is in fact the original unedited version of the song. All the other tracks you've mentioned were remixed or extended afterwards.

The longer "Sexy Dancer" is a real club THROWDOWN!!!! nod

nod

I spent a crapload of money for my vinyl of that - and it's worth every penny.

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Reply #13 posted 05/26/11 4:39pm

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Optimus2 said:

is just me or are 80% pf those extended versions pointless?...and add nothing 2 the song?....the best extended version 4 me was Another Lonley Christmas with that added verse (best verse imo) and the guitar solo at the end..........however the others are just boring extended instrumentals...tut

I disagree, except for the Sexy Dancer & I Wanna B Ur Lover extended versions, kinda pointless, although some of my favorite songs, there was no need to hear them extended @ all, adds nada

"How Can I Stand To..Stay Where I Am? Poor Butterfly Who..Dont Understand." P
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Reply #14 posted 05/26/11 5:04pm

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Actually, I'd always heard that even the 5+ minute album version of I Wanna Be Your Lover was edited down, and I would love to hear the full funk on that jam. I also feel like Uptown is one of those songs that could have been extended further (the break always vibes in the same way as the groove on Controversy, and I could lose myself in that mesh).

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Reply #15 posted 05/26/11 5:23pm

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therighteous1 said:

Actually, I'd always heard that even the 5+ minute album version of I Wanna Be Your Lover was edited down, and I would love to hear the full funk on that jam. I also feel like Uptown is one of those songs that could have been extended further (the break always vibes in the same way as the groove on Controversy, and I could lose myself in that mesh).

Well i have a version that ends @ 6:05, but the vocals leave out so early & the beat stays simple, which only makes it seem longer, even the 5:50 album version seems like 12:00 mins long 2 me, not bad, but VERY POINTLESS

& after 2:00 mins of Sexy Dancer im done, very hot but not a "i never want this song to end" kinda song, just fun & sexy, which is why it should be kept short

Now Electric Chair is a "I never want this song to end" kinda jam 4 me

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Reply #16 posted 05/27/11 7:54am

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Optimus2 said:

is just me or are 80% pf those extended versions pointless?...and add nothing 2 the song?....the best extended version 4 me was Another Lonley Christmas with that added verse (best verse imo) and the guitar solo at the end..........however the others are just boring extended instrumentals...tut

Do you mean just those songs that the OP posted or extended versions period? Because most of the 12" versions including B-sides from Purple Rain/ATWIAD/Parade/SOTT are top shelf.

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Reply #17 posted 05/27/11 2:01pm

OldFriends4Sal
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was listening 2 the ext Mountains and that song never ended, so i wonder how long it really is

Is America the officially longest extended version?

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Reply #18 posted 05/28/11 4:58am

victorludorum

i agree with optimus 2 , these extended versions dont do anything for me either, maybe i'm being cynical but it looks like a rip-off to me.

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Reply #19 posted 05/28/11 5:15am

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victorludorum said:

i agree with optimus 2 , these extended versions dont do anything for me either, maybe i'm being cynical but it looks like a rip-off to me.

How is it a rip off?

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Reply #20 posted 05/28/11 8:20am

Optimus2

dannyd5050 said:

Optimus2 said:

is just me or are 80% pf those extended versions pointless?...and add nothing 2 the song?....the best extended version 4 me was Another Lonley Christmas with that added verse (best verse imo) and the guitar solo at the end..........however the others are just boring extended instrumentals...tut

Do you mean just those songs that the OP posted or extended versions period? Because most of the 12" versions including B-sides from Purple Rain/ATWIAD/Parade/SOTT are top shelf.

i mean all the 12" extended versions as a whole 4 instance....

Mountains...great 4 the 1st 4 mins...but i dont want 2 hear fucking flutes etc....4 the next 6 mins..without nay vicals grrr!!!

Housequake (7 Min Mo Quake)....6 mins of thumping 4 2 mins of vocal at the end...which 4 sum strange reason is only the 2nd half of teh original song...how shit!!!

an on and on.........pointless

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Reply #21 posted 05/28/11 8:23am

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Optimus2 said:

dannyd5050 said:

Do you mean just those songs that the OP posted or extended versions period? Because most of the 12" versions including B-sides from Purple Rain/ATWIAD/Parade/SOTT are top shelf.

i mean all the 12" extended versions as a whole 4 instance....

Mountains...great 4 the 1st 4 mins...but i dont want 2 hear fucking flutes etc....4 the next 6 mins..without nay vicals grrr!!!

Housequake (7 Min Mo Quake)....6 mins of thumping 4 2 mins of vocal at the end...which 4 sum strange reason is only the 2nd half of teh original song...how shit!!!

an on and on.........pointless

What about these Ext Vers:

Let's Go Crazy

She's Always In My Hair

La, La, La, He, He, Hee

Alphabet St.

pointless? NO!

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Reply #22 posted 05/28/11 9:01am

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Something Ive wondered about the extended Red Corvette; it definitely sounds as though the guitar break just before Dez's solo was edited in (truthfully it's a sloppy edit), but is the opinion here that the other bass line that comes in near the end and the "velvet sweat" monolog were added after the album version was finished? Not questioning anyone who knows for sure, but I'd bet this was in the track originally and edited out for the album & single versions
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Reply #23 posted 05/29/11 6:53am

Optimus2

djThunderfunk said:

Optimus2 said:

i mean all the 12" extended versions as a whole 4 instance....

Mountains...great 4 the 1st 4 mins...but i dont want 2 hear fucking flutes etc....4 the next 6 mins..without nay vicals grrr!!!

Housequake (7 Min Mo Quake)....6 mins of thumping 4 2 mins of vocal at the end...which 4 sum strange reason is only the 2nd half of teh original song...how shit!!!

an on and on.........pointless

What about these Ext Vers:

Let's Go Crazy

She's Always In My Hair

La, La, La, He, He, Hee

Alphabet St.

pointless? NO!

yes i sed most of the extended versions are shit....yet teh are those like the 1s mentioned above Pop Life, Hello, Another Lonlely Christmas, Hot Thing and Get Off, Feel U Up and a few more x

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Reply #24 posted 05/30/11 3:46pm

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Optimus2 said:

djThunderfunk said:

What about these Ext Vers:

Let's Go Crazy

She's Always In My Hair

La, La, La, He, He, Hee

Alphabet St.

pointless? NO!

yes i sed most of the extended versions are shit....yet teh are those like the 1s mentioned above Pop Life, Hello, Another Lonlely Christmas, Hot Thing and Get Off, Feel U Up and a few more x

If you mean stuff like: My Name is Prince, Letitgo, The Greatest Romance, Dance 4 Me, etc...

those kind of remixes are shit. and pointless.

But, see, I consider those remixes, not extended versions. I consider extended versions to be more like the ones I mentioned, or the ones you mentioned. Where, in most cases, they are the full length recordings that were edited down to create the album versions. These, that I call extended versions rather than remixes (regardless of the title on the sleeve) are usually awesome and should be considered crucial listening for any fan!

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Reply #25 posted 05/30/11 6:30pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Is America the officially longest extended version?

Officially released, I think yes, unofficially, there is the full version of I Would Die 4 U which runs about 31 minutes ?

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Reply #26 posted 05/31/11 3:39am

njin

There should be an undreleased much longer track of WHy You Wanna Treat Me So Bad, as it is fading out in the middle of a great guitar solo, that he would show the rest of on live sets.

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Reply #27 posted 05/31/11 4:34am

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fragglerock said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Is America the officially longest extended version?

Officially released, I think yes, unofficially, there is the full version of I Would Die 4 U which runs about 31 minutes ?

This was a rehearsal session that the (released) extended version of IWD4U was taken from. The unreleased but circulating 30min version is an edit of an even longer version.

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Reply #28 posted 05/31/11 4:41am

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Optimus2 said:

djThunderfunk said:

What about these Ext Vers:

Let's Go Crazy

She's Always In My Hair

La, La, La, He, He, Hee

Alphabet St.

pointless? NO!

yes i sed most of the extended versions are shit...

I beg to differ. All his 80's Twelve inch singles fucking rule.

Picking them up and playing them for the first time were all it was about for me back in my teens.

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