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Reply #30 posted 05/30/11 11:17am

utopian811

DoffieParker said:

i think she should have done the bet tribute & left it at that. i don't feel any real chemistry when they perform 2gether, it's like they're not in the same zone

Wow, what was that that happens the first night she opened for him? He came onstage, they played around for a while, he had tears in his eyes, and it was magic. then he want and did one of the best shows I have ever seen.

Easy to have an opinion, but the reality is a different thing altogether. I'd love to see them do something together, I think it would be off the charts!

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Reply #31 posted 06/08/11 4:43pm

GustavoRibas

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steakfinger said:

virtriol is correct. Sorry. Prince is highly awesome at what he does, but what he does is not even in the same ballpark as what she does. I'm not talking better or worse, it's just different. She could get into Prince's world and fit in flawlessly. If Prince got into her world, he could provide ambience AT BEST. So what? Music isn't a competition and Prince is not a god at every style. Some are, he is not. I love Prince and I like his songs. He's done a lot and done it well. In his arena he's better that everyone else. His arena is merely one of several, though. I'm a schooled musician and I know how to speak the language. Prince makes inspired music because he does what he knows. Some people know a lot more. It's just fact.

Jamming might be okay. It depends. Stylistically he's pretty limited on the guitar. He can sort of rock and he can make some quasi-jazz noises, but that's it. He's awesome in the studio and playing over harmonically simple vamps. He'd drown in a real jazz situation.

- I have to agree. Prince is amazing at lots of things. He really is a great producer, arranger, songwriter, and plays the instruments really well. But jazz is a world of it´s own. Improvising on a jazz progression is a lot harder than on a 2 chord groove or riff. And the great jazz players really dedicate their lives to it, to harmony, improvisation, and such. Prince did some jazzy things and they are good (My Summertime Thang, Get some solo, etc), but he is not as fluent as guys like Benson, Mc Laughlin, etc.

BTW, I never understood why Prince didnt develop his guitar phrasing after all these years. These songs I mentioned are from end of 80s/beginning of the 90s. Well, maybe he is happy enough with his blues-rock licks, which are cool.

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Reply #32 posted 06/10/11 5:12am

DennisMark

utopian811 said:

Wow, what was that that happens the first night she opened for him? He came onstage, they played around for a while, he had tears in his eyes, and it was magic. then he want and did one of the best shows I have ever seen.

Easy to have an opinion, but the reality is a different thing altogether. I'd love to see them do something together, I think it would be off the charts!

Wow - just amazing ! Yes I would also love to hear/see more Prince and Esperanza together.

Afterall, her name means 'hope' - does it not ?!

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Reply #33 posted 06/10/11 5:16am

DennisMark

blugtr542 said:

I personally think you all should stop talking about music and musicians.

Stick to hairstyles and girlfriends and boyfriends.

Not very many of you even the so called schooled musicians know what you are talking about.

You can not back up any of your statements with one iota of evidence.

You are purely hearsayers, naysayers and doomlayers.

Prince has plenty of Jazz chops.......there is no such thing as smoothwavejazz it was invented by a program director on prozac, it has nothing to do with Jazz pure or non-pure.

Go dig out your madhouse records, or Damn You or Love 2 the 9's if you want to hear some simple jazz riffs....if you want to hear some lush jazz soloing or progressions check out Alexis de Paris, or the extended version of She Spoke to Me...."Jazz" persay has many sizes, shapes, and colors.

Prince has a handle on many genres, and is very adequate if not virtuostic at what he does.

I have been a musician all of my life and I remember back in tha day seeing Prince 2 nights in a row play the same songs for a portion of the show. That was nothing, the virtuostic thing about it was he played the exact same solos but with different fingerings. For a guitar player thats like untwisting a pretzel, mofos...Believe you me , I was there at Cobo Hall and I saw it with me own eyes.

Another time it was insane to see him do "the work pt1" and play a sick solo on the guitar with one hand while harmonizing it on the keyboard simultaneously with his other hand...nuthin but a trick to him at the time....sickening to real musicians. Kinda like Elton or Mozart playing the keyboard upside down or behind there back....Real musicians and virtuosos know their instrument...intimately.

Think it's easy? Try it sometime...wait a minute just try to think about it....ugh my left hand is doing this with pull offs and hammer ons whilst my right hand is up a 3rd on the keyboard hold on...wait a minute ...What Key am I in??

Real musicians just know .... they don't have to fight about it on vlogs, blogs, tweets, or watevers..nevermind...

I just get sick of reading peoples comments when they write without really thinking...kinda makes me wish i could just sit on the stoop and play guitar and watch the cars go by.

If you have something musical to debate...don't hesitate

I agree with you. Music is a feeling - or resonates with feelings. Prince and Esperanza are both musicians that represent Music with capitol M.

I really dig the smoothness of Esperanza's music - it reminds me of shea butter...and when Prince did his instrumental jazzy pieces it has a touch of that same feeling, however one way or the other Prince always needs a a more funky seasoning on his slow-work - I would like to hear him dig down deep in the mellow feeling ...with the company of ms Spalding.

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Reply #34 posted 06/10/11 5:43am

DennisMark

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does anyone have any clear photos of the pretty people here ?

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Reply #35 posted 06/16/11 8:12am

DennisMark

GustavoRibas said:

alfbo said:

The highlight of the 2 performances I saw when she opened for Prince was her version of Can't Help It by the Jackson Five. Prince showed up on stage during it to play an amazing jazz guitar solo.

- Wow, this is something I would LOVE to hear.

me to

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Reply #36 posted 06/16/11 9:40am

Giselle

They seem like a match made in heaven.

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