stillwaiting said:

There wasn't any low period for his studio recordings. I like them all, love most of them. Whenever I play "If I Was Prince's Manager," I would have had him release a new album only every 2-5 years, but I would've had 5 disc outtake/demo sets around 1991, and 1995, and a 20 disc set around 2003. That way, we get the best of both worlds. Instead of confusing the public with too many albums, he follows more of the MJ/U2 blueprint of not over-saturating the market. Also, in this little dream, Tony M does not exist.

But in the life that we have, I am happy to have all the Prince music I have. Sure it would be nice to pretend that The Wedding Feast never happened, and that the Graffiti Bridge movie never existed, but it it what it is, and just having all these great songs has made my life a little better than it otherwise would have been.

Still to this day do not understand why people dont look at Wedding Feast as just an interlude....

Yeah i don't really like the Prince albums from 97-06. Planet Earth is one of my favorite albums from him and its FAR BETTER than Musicology and 3121. And Lotusflow3r is just plain epic. 20ten however...ugh...

TheFreakerFantastic said:

I like Princes prolific nature....I would hate to wait 2-5 years for an album... The fact he can be relied upon to create new music is what I love. I don't think being prolific automatically means losing quality...listen to some of his 80s outtakes...some are better than his released stuff. His vault will probably be released in time, probably after he has left the earth, but in the meantime I guess it's good he's building it up even more. Will be a nice surprise when it opens too!

Well if you had 30 discs of unreleased stuff in outtake releases, you sort of have it both ways. The mainstream fans don't get confused with too many releases, and the die hards not only get tons of outtakes, but since I said 30 discs, that also includes songs that we know as unreleased, and other songs we have not even heard. Sure, I am happy with the way it turned out, but this way gives us more music, just not in small doses each year, but small doses every 2-5 years, and in incredible cannot believe it is true doses in a few other years.

So with my idea, even though we go a few years without new music, we end up with a lot more music then we have now. And of course, there would have been a few live albums, and maybe at least 5 full length concert dvds, and 6 or more dvds containing every single video made.

Yeah, a pipe dream, but you can bet with my plan, he never would've hit some of the lows he hit. Not to mention that "The Beautiful Ones," would have been a single.

paisleypark4 said:

stillwaiting said:

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Still to this day do not understand why people dont look at Wedding Feast as just an interlude....

Even if the damb thing were 4 seconds, I would have cringed. Not as bad as Tony M's "Mr Money Minder" speech at the end of Jughead, but almost as bad.

I do like your shit hop signature though. Imagine this...20 years from now Prince will be 73, and will be able to tour if he still has the energy and desire to do so. Lil' Talent Wayne will be probably around 50, and could probably tour some state fairs if he is lucky.

I like wedding feast! It's playful and funny at the same time!

TheOneUWannaC said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Didn't really like Mcology and 3121. Loved Planet Earth and loved the Lotusflow3r set..his best since Emancipation IMO. Really didn't like 20ten either was a let down after the recent highs. I'll forgive him that provided the next album is good!

Mcology sounds like the album Tony M made while working in his post NPG career at McDonald's. Not trying to diss those that work for the Fast Food Giant, but it had to be a let down for Tony after somehow being allowed to be in a band he had little ability to be a part of.

stillwaiting said:

paisleypark4 said:

Still to this day do not understand why people dont look at Wedding Feast as just an interlude....

Even if the damb thing were 4 seconds, I would have cringed. Not as bad as Tony M's "Mr Money Minder" speech at the end of Jughead, but almost as bad.

I do like your shit hop signature though. Imagine this...20 years from now Prince will be 73, and will be able to tour if he still has the energy and desire to do so. Lil' Talent Wayne will be probably around 50, and could probably tour some state fairs if he is lucky.

Right! I predict he will just fade out as with most older rappers have.

stillwaiting said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Didn't really like Mcology and 3121. Loved Planet Earth and loved the Lotusflow3r set..his best since Emancipation IMO. Really didn't like 20ten either was a let down after the recent highs. I'll forgive him that provided the next album is good!

Mcology sounds like the album Tony M made while working in his post NPG career at McDonald's. Not trying to diss those that work for the Fast Food Giant, but it had to be a let down for Tony after somehow being allowed to be in a band he had little ability to be a part of.

LOL. However, Tony M wasn't the worst IMO, remember Doug E Fresh?!?

TheFreakerFantastic said:

stillwaiting said:

Mcology sounds like the album Tony M made while working in his post NPG career at McDonald's. Not trying to diss those that work for the Fast Food Giant, but it had to be a let down for Tony after somehow being allowed to be in a band he had little ability to be a part of.

LOL. However, Tony M wasn't the worst IMO, remember Doug E Fresh?!?

Well, Doug E Fresh stained New Power Soul a bit, and he ruined a few concerts, and destroyed my enjoyment at some aftershows. Tony M actually led many fans to create the Diamonds And Pearls(No Tony M edit), and the symbol album No Tony M edit. His rap in My Name is Prince is about the only rap I have ever heard that mentions manure...weak.

V10LETBLUES said:

More like 1989 - 2001. Those were the lowest depths the man has waded through.

The entire decade of the 90's was a shameful era for such a great artist. When for someone of his stature at his heights, to set his sights so low, to the lowest common denominator, and sadly could not even artistically compete with pre-fab kiddie pop that he was urgently trying to compete against.

The beginning of the 2001 saw a renaissance, at least in his live performances. And once again put himself back at the top as the greatest living live performer.

Once the 90's were over it seems he picked himself up and decided to pretend that that decade never happened. Thankfully only performing the one or two rare gems from that decade in concert.

Some may long for the childish and uber-cheesy 90's and diss his better works like 3121 and Lotus, but whatever.

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I agree with a lot U say, except I still liked his output untill Emancipation,

all tough C&D and Come were disapointing at the time: for such a great artist!

In the 90's he had some great stuff but overall this last 10 years were more consistent!

Musicoly/3121/20Ten are great!!

Paris9748430 said:

97-2000 weren't great years, even though I think Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic is kinda underrated.

However, I think these past 10 years were quite good.

In '01, he released The Rainbow Children, which I think is a great album.

He followed that up with the One Nite Alone tour which was amazing.

The One Nite Alone Piano Album and the Live Box Set were OK.

Musicology may not have been a return to form musically, but it put him back in the spotlight and the subsequent tour reminded the country that Prince was fucking awesome.

With 3121, he got his 1st album ever to debut at #1.

I didn't too much care for Planet Earth, but it had a few good songs there.

Since then, I think Prince has been rightfully enjoying his legendary elder statesman status.

In fact, U say what I wanna say here since years!!

89-01 were weak? I can understand not loving every single album track, but just to make a quick best of from that time frame, and leaving out a few great songs:

Disc One:

Batdance

Partyman

The Future

Electric Chair

Scandalous

Thieves In The Temple

Can't Stop This Feeling I Got

We Can Funk

Joy In Repetition

The Question of U

Still Would Stand All Time

Gett Off

Cream

Diamonds And Pearls

Money Don't Matter 2 Night

Thunder

Sexy MF

My Name Is Prince

7

Disc Two:

Damn U

The Morning Papers

Sweet Baby

Peach

Power Fantastic(Yeah, recorded back in 86 or so, but won't even mention the Black Album)

Pink Cashmere

The Most Beautiful Girl In The World

Eye Hate U

P Control

Billy Jack Bitch

Endorphinmachine

Shh

Dolphin

Dinner With Delores

I Like It There

Into The Light/I Will

Somebody's Somebody

Saviour

Soul Sanctuary

Disc Three:

well...you get the point. Maybe not Prince's greatest period, but you can go 3 discs at 75 min each

and have them full of at least almost great songs, and if you don't think there are at least 20 great songs during those years, then you probably should re-consider how much of a fan you are.

NPS was his absolutely low point, in my opinion. Completely plastic and disposable. There were some god-awful moments during the NPGMC era as well. I thought TRC had the potential to be a huge return to form, but he ruined it. Musicology was a definite "comeback" overall, and he's been consistently strong since then (although not on the same level as his 80s peaks)

I thought Rave had its moments, and with a different track listing and sequencing could have been a much better album (along w/ different cover art. That artwork doomed the project from the start)