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Thread started 04/11/11 1:49pm

2freaky4church
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The Sacrifice of Victor, yay or nay?

Ok, guys, this is a biggie. You either love this song or hate it. Want to see if the room agrees with me that is a classic song. Prince being brutally honest for once with his lyrics. Tony M actually not getting on your nerves. A really well conceived pop song.

I love it, a great ending to the Symbol album.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 04/11/11 2:15pm

KoolEaze

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Great song, very introspective, very honest and deep lyrics. The music is not really my cup of tea but hey, I still like this song very much.

At first I was wondering whether this thread was dedicated to 1. the book , or 2. the video release, or 3. the song.

I think this song and that interview he did with Tavis Smiley were the only occasions where he openly mentioned his struggles with epilepsy.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #2 posted 04/11/11 2:27pm

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It's his attempt at hip/hop pop/soul. Obviously a good example.

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Reply #3 posted 04/11/11 2:29pm

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I like the lyrics, I like the drum sound, I don't like anything else about it.

Good album though (the original one with the silly segues intact).

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Reply #4 posted 04/11/11 2:37pm

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I remember at the time I used think it was very Lovesexy (probably the horns and falsetto), but now I hear just a natural progession to the material on Come - that beat is so high in the mix, it drowns out everything else but the vocals, very "bombastic" (the trademark phrase for prince ).

I don't dislike it, but it's not really doing enough to keep my interest other than the last minute gospel liftoff. The Steeles are great though, would've liked to hear more of them and Prince together vocally.

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Reply #5 posted 04/11/11 2:44pm

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NouveauDance said:

I remember at the time I used think it was very Lovesexy (probably the horns and falsetto), but now I hear just a natural progession to the material on Come - that beat is so high in the mix, it drowns out everything else but the vocals, very "bombastic" (the trademark phrase for prince ).

I don't dislike it, but it's not really doing enough to keep my interest other than the last minute gospel liftoff. The Steeles are great though, would've liked to hear more of them and Prince together vocally.

That is a good description of the sound around this time, that totally ott bass, usually without much in the way of melody. It was in a few tracks. Most prominent in SOV and My Name Is Prince I guess.

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Reply #6 posted 04/11/11 2:49pm

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It's a sound collage. Noisy like good rap should be.

The horns kill it.

Aunt Esther is genius.

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Reply #7 posted 04/11/11 2:51pm

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The Steeles' backing vocals, another high.

"Joyyy, round the corna."

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Reply #8 posted 04/11/11 3:28pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The Steeles' backing vocals, another high.

"Joyyy, round the corna."

yeahthat

Prince's Sarah
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Reply #9 posted 04/11/11 3:33pm

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Without a doubt,one of my all-time favorites!When I listen to it,I put it on repeat& blast it LOUD!(For which I'm sure my neighbors are plotting my demise!)Also love playing drums along with it(&so,the plot thickens!)
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Reply #10 posted 04/11/11 3:48pm

RodeoSchro

I love it. I too was born with a cord around my neck. In fact, the doctor told my dad that I was dead, and that they'd try to save my mom.

Luckily, they tried one more time on me. That's why I never get mad. I'm truly lucky to be here.

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Reply #11 posted 04/11/11 3:48pm

JoeTyler

headbang

tinkerbell
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Reply #12 posted 04/11/11 9:31pm

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It sucks.

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*waits for everyone to notice my name*

What it is?!?!
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Reply #13 posted 04/11/11 9:40pm

novabrkr

Yay.

I've always loved the way he combines different elements on it.

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Reply #14 posted 04/11/11 10:26pm

thedance

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I heart this song..........

worship

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Reply #15 posted 04/11/11 11:19pm

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Great track

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Reply #16 posted 04/12/11 12:40am

Bohemian67

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I suppose you have to love hip hop and rap.

It's not awful but I'd never put it on my ipod. In fact it's the first time I'm listening to it all the way through. The chorus sounds similar to something on GB.

It's the tin sounding drum the whole way through I don't like. It sounds like metal.

Some funky parts but no. Nay for me. It's too noisy and it sounds untidy.

"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life -
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Reply #17 posted 04/12/11 1:07am

vegasE

Love it. Great ending for the album.
Took a while to grow on me. The dissonant horns and the martika's kitchen keys along withthe bass didn't do much for me.
Love it all now. It all seems to work now. Would love to hear an extended version.
Not sure why you got to love hiphop/rap to like this....but their your ears I suppose.
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Reply #18 posted 04/12/11 1:44am

dodger

Always thought it was ok but after seeing the live version on 'Ryde Divine' I love it. As others have said its a great mix of gospel/hip hop/soul. I even cant help but like Tony's 'S-A-C-R-I-F-C-E'

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Reply #19 posted 04/12/11 1:45am

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I didn't like it at the time because to me, it was just the beat from Martika's Kitchen with some new lyrics & horns. It grew on me though. Still think it's a bit busy, but it's ok.

blah blah blah
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Reply #20 posted 04/12/11 6:40am

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"

Some funky parts but no. Nay for me. It's too noisy and it sounds untidy."

Prince being untidy is better than anybody else being tidy.

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Reply #21 posted 04/12/11 7:22am

mrsquirrel

"Joy round the corner - woop!" - definite headbuzz

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Reply #22 posted 04/12/11 8:35am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Ok, guys, this is a biggie. You either love this song or hate it.

Not a biggie to me, most forgettable, neither yay or nay, sorry.

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Reply #23 posted 04/12/11 9:15am

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"NPG in mass attack"..... so funky. biggrin

I wonder why some of you dislikes it.

But OK cool, I have this song on repeat right now.... music

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Reply #24 posted 04/12/11 9:35am

Empress

I love this song and the entire cd too razz

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Reply #25 posted 04/12/11 10:15am

abigail05

It sucks.

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Reply #26 posted 04/12/11 11:10am

Lammastide

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I only dig the last 25 seconds of the song. confused

Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #27 posted 04/12/11 11:11am

BlackCandle

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Not a great song. Disappointing end to the album given how dramatic the title sounds.

Bit I kinda like the live version on The Ryde Divine.
"Had to get off the boat so I could walk on water..."
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Reply #28 posted 04/12/11 5:28pm

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Yay! Love it. He opened with this at the aftershow I saw in Chicago on the Act I tour. Great show, heavy on guitar. Lot's of new material at the time.

TRUE BLUE
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Reply #29 posted 04/12/11 5:41pm

Dave1992

The arrangement is very busy and dense, but crazy enough for me to appreciate it. I like the track very much.

Bohemian67 said:

The chorus sounds similar to something on GB.

You're referring to Elephants And Flowers. How dare you call that song "something"? disbelief

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