I very much doubt that Prince would offer songs from prior to 1982 for possible use for "Purple Rain".

Stylistically he had very much moved on.

TheFreakerFantastic said:

EmancipationLover said:

To be precise, Magnoli hasn't claimed that. He said:

"The album was never intended to be a double album. I was able to listen to a hundred songs that Prince had written, composed and produced before I had even started writing the screenplay. Out of those 100 songs I chose 11 that defined the thematic elements necessary to enhance the story. But, we needed 12 songs to create the album."

He just said that he was given a hundred Prince songs. If these were recorded for the PR project, just recorded in the same era or old outtakes remains open for discussion and speculation. The only obvious thing is that it couldn't be released material as it happened in the process of compiling the new album. 100 unreleased songs overall up to 1983? That seems possible to me, and it also makes sense that Prince, given the importance of the project, offered everything he had in the vault when the movie and album were planned.

This would also explain why people like Fink never mentioned recording sessions with 100 songs for PR - simply because it never happened that way. What Magnoli had heard probably was "Prince unreleased - the comprehensive collection" in its 1983 status.

Agreed. This quote has been taken out of context, Magnoli did not say these 100 songs were created for Purple Rain, he just had access to 100 songs and logically by 1984 Prince would have easily had that many songs in the Vault, that he could potentially use for a new album, so Magnoli probably isn't exaggerating, apart from the bit where he 'guided' Prince to choose Purple Rain (lol) which sounds a bit suspect!

Interestingly has Wednesday even been available in unreleased form? I've never come across it even though it was withdrawn from release on Purple Rain quite late in the day.

Sheila E released a song in 1987 called 'Wednesday like a river' but I assume this is unrelated.

there is a smokey maybe 2 min boot called What Will I Do, that is Wednesday

I would love to hear a full version of it

Militant said:

I very much doubt that Prince would offer songs from prior to 1982 for possible use for "Purple Rain".

Stylistically he had very much moved on.

That is surely true, but there was still the chance to re-record a song that would have been suitable for the PR project to make it fit to the other songs (soundwise). So I personally would not discard the hypothesis of Prince opening the vault for Magnoli too easlily.

EmancipationLover said:

Militant said:

I very much doubt that Prince would offer songs from prior to 1982 for possible use for "Purple Rain".

Stylistically he had very much moved on.

That is surely true, but there was still the chance to re-record a song that would have been suitable for the PR project to make it fit to the other songs (soundwise). So I personally would not discard the hypothesis of Prince opening the vault for Magnoli too easlily.

Sure, but I still think the 100 figure is VERY, VERY inflated. I'd say anything past 60 is pushing it.

so are there 9o songs or not ..

vitriol said:

I can't remember the exact interview or if it was one of those Q&A that were posted on one of his old sites but I remember reading an statement from Prince -when asked about PR outtakes- saying something like 'I don't think there are many outtakes from an album that was mainly based on live recordings'.

Well, the statement is bullshit and inconsistent, but that's what he said.

As mentioned above, there are loads of unreleased tracks (many of them from the period we're discussing) but that wouldn't necessarily make them 'PR outtakes'.

I remember him even saying something like that there were no Purple Rain outtakes at all.

^But that's untrue. 'Wednesday' IS a Purple Rain outtake.

Spinlight said:

At first I thought you were kidding with the "90 or so songs" figure. I mean, he was pretty prolific at the time.

Now, I just think you are misinformed. lol.

Purple Rain only ever had about... 12 max songs that were intended for the album.

on tthe special edition pr dvd...the director or producer or someone was talking about how they were stounded when Prince gave them 100 or so songs to choose from for the movie...and still was writing more inspired by movie plot and per producer/director request.

tht was alrdy dscssd ....nvrmnd

[Edited 5/16/11 10:15am]

Magnoli definitely says he listened to a ridiculous amount of songs presented to him by Prince for the Purple Rain movie project. What this probably means is any music (new or old) that was appropriate for any of the groups in the movie. And if they had agreed on an old track because lyrics were appropriate for the drama, then Prince could revamp it as he often does.

This auditioning of songs was not for the album Purple Rain, but for the movie.

That's what it sounds like to me.

Militant said:

I very much doubt that Prince would offer songs from prior to 1982 for possible use for "Purple Rain".

Stylistically he had very much moved on.

Baby I'm A Star?

NouveauDance said:

Militant said:

I very much doubt that Prince would offer songs from prior to 1982 for possible use for "Purple Rain".

Stylistically he had very much moved on.

Baby I'm A Star?

That was done in 1982 right?

Spinlight said:

NouveauDance said:

Baby I'm A Star?

That was done in 1982 right?

Maybe even 1981:

http://princevault.com/in...27m_A_Star