What are you thoughts on this proposed album?

Have you made a playlist of these songs 2 C how they playout?

What other songs that you know of were prossibles 4 Rave?

1. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
2. If I Had a Harem
3. Good Judy Girlfriend
4. Pink Cashmere
5. Electric Chair
6. Am I Without U
7. God Is Alive
8. Still Would Stand All Time
9. Moonbeam Levels

I dig the Batman album, but I think this album would have had a lot more range. Would have been a great release.

An earlier configuration of the Rave album dated Oct 27th '88 is thought to have been (this has never been confirmed)...

1. The Voice Inside.

2. Melody Cool.

3. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

4. God Is Alive.

5. If I Had A Harem.

6. Stimulation.

7. Still Would Stand All Time.

8. Elephants And Flowers.

9. Big House.

10. We Got The Power.

I think the only other known configuration is the one you have listed in your post which dates from late '88, early '89.

Militant said:

I dig the Batman album, but I think this album would have had a lot more range. Would have been a great release.

I think this too. I this it would've been like Lovesexy pt.2 - and that's no bad thing. The title track is, nothing special at all IMO and don't consider it worth making the focus of a project, either in 1989 or 1999. But overall, I like the material proposed for the project.

Rave and Graffiti Bridge were tangled somewhat at this point, and the earlier Rave tracklist has 'Elephants & Flowers' - which I would keep, along with The Voice Inside which I also like (reminds me of Trust and that upbeat Lovesexy 88/89 vibe).

The Oct 27th tracklist according to The Vault:

The Voice Inside

Melody Cool

Rave

God Is Alive

If I Had A Harem

Stimulation

Still Would Stand All Time

Elephants & Flowers

Big House

We Got The Power

This looks like a total rough WIP to me, a collection of tracks to consider without a real order to them.

Edit: great minds and all that....

[Edited 4/1/11 6:42am]

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TheDigitalGardener said:

An earlier configuration of the Rave album dated Oct 27th '88 is thought to have been (this has never been confirmed)...

1. The Voice Inside.

2. Melody Cool.

3. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

4. God Is Alive.

5. If I Had A Harem.

6. Stimulation.

7. Still Would Stand All Time.

8. Elephants And Flowers.

9. Big House.

10. We Got The Power.

I think the only other known configuration is the one you have listed in your post which dates from late '88, early '89.

Both configurations look good, he had a few other pieces that were made at this time like Me Touch Myself & Dance With the Devil that I could imagine a sold album with sold interesting B sides

1988

3. Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic (5:20) Alternate version. Contains some musical differences near the end. Prince assembled an album in late 1988 with this as the title song, but he abandoned the project when he started work on the Batman album. He offered the song for use in the Batman film, but it was rejected. It was eventually released in 1999 as the title track of the Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic album.

5. If I Had A Harem (2:16) Unreleased. Quite different from the song Prince played during the Lovesexy tour. Intended for the unreleased version of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album assembled in 1988.

4. God Is Alive [#1] (6:20) Unreleased. Includes vocals by Prince and Mavis Staples.
God Is Alive [#2] (2:35) Unreleased. This is the end portion of the song, but without the guitar solos of version #1.

10. We Got The Power [#1] (3:32) Unreleased. Some of the chorus to this song were later used in "Batdance" and in Carmen Electra's unreleased "Power From Above." This song has also been called "Dance With Power" by some sources. Intended for the 1988 version of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album, and considered for the Batman soundtrack.
We Got The Power [#2] (0:36) Unreleased. This portion of the song was synched to footage in an early unreleased trailer for the Batman film.

1. The Voice Inside (5:09) Unreleased. Intended for the unreleased 1988 version of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album, segued into "Melody Cool."

http://www.angelfire.com/.../index.htm

Militant said:

I dig the Batman album, but I think this album would have had a lot more range. Would have been a great release.

I agree, to bad he didn't push for a double release (2 seperate albums) I like the 'dark' twin feel that the Batman project had. But I think even with his Lovesexy enlightenment Prince had a shadow over him that lent to a darker side at this time.

NouveauDance said:

Militant said:

I dig the Batman album, but I think this album would have had a lot more range. Would have been a great release.

I think this too. I this it would've been like Lovesexy pt.2 - and that's no bad thing. The title track is, nothing special at all IMO and don't consider it worth making the focus of a project, either in 1989 or 1999. But overall, I like the material proposed for the project.

Rave and Graffiti Bridge were tangled somewhat at this point, and the earlier Rave tracklist has 'Elephants & Flowers' - which I would keep, along with The Voice Inside which I also like (reminds me of Trust and that upbeat Lovesexy 88/89 vibe).

The Oct 27th tracklist according to The Vault:

The Voice Inside

Melody Cool

Rave

God Is Alive

If I Had A Harem

Stimulation

Still Would Stand All Time

Elephants & Flowers

Big House

We Got The Power

This looks like a total rough WIP to me, a collection of tracks to consider without a real order to them.

Edit: great minds and all that....

I was just listening to Trust, love that 'churchy' upbeat feel to it. No matter what he would have had a good choice to pick from for B sides too

GOOD GIRL JUDY

All U need is Judy, she's good 4 U

(U bad sister) {James Brown sample repeats in BG}

How do I start off, what can I say?
Who makes U happy each and every day?
Who makes U happy each and every night?
When we're 2gether, who makes things right?

Big words escape U when U think of me
No words can evaluate this mystery
U could be so tired, find it hard a-walkin'
But I could get U wired, get your body talkin'

CHORUS:
Long as U got me, all things alright
It don't take a lot, see, and U're wound tight
In the middle of the day, babe, in the middle of the night
Long as U got me, all things alright

There ain't no other junk that U wanna do
All U need is Judy, she's good 4 U
How simple can I make it, I just want U 2 take it
Rattle, roll and shake it, Judy gonna do ya, ooh

given 2 Carmen Electra a few years later

I don't think either configuration is that inspiring.

I think P from the back of 88 to early 91 was a bit lost, and his work shows its. Some great tracks, but no real direction.

I think he was on a downer. Just look at Grafitti and the lyrics to Thieves. He was hanging in there. A lonely old soul.

The music world was changing at the end of hte 80's and I don't think Prince knew which way to go. In the end, he spent 91-92 trying to chase trends and getting bitter with WB about the lack of success compared to Purple Rain.

The best thing to come out of it all was that it cleared his head for the 93-95 period. To me, his last great productive period.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
2. If I Had a Harem
3. Good Judy Girlfriend
4. Pink Cashmere
5. Electric Chair
6. Am I Without U
7. God Is Alive
8. Still Would Stand All Time
9. Moonbeam Levels

Thanks a lot for the info,

I don't think this album would have been that good though.

thedance said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

1. Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
2. If I Had a Harem
3. Good Judy Girlfriend
4. Pink Cashmere
5. Electric Chair
6. Am I Without U
7. God Is Alive
8. Still Would Stand All Time
9. Moonbeam Levels

Thanks a lot for the info,

I don't think this album would have been that good though.

why?

I still haven't put it together to have a listen yet

There are 2 playlist put up here, I'll hve to try them out later

SquirrelMeat said:

I don't think either configuration is that inspiring.

I think P from the back of 88 to early 91 was a bit lost, and his work shows its. Some great tracks, but no real direction.

I think he was on a downer. Just look at Grafitti and the lyrics to Thieves. He was hanging in there. A lonely old soul.

The music world was changing at the end of hte 80's and I don't think Prince knew which way to go. In the end, he spent 91-92 trying to chase trends and getting bitter with WB about the lack of success compared to Purple Rain.

The best thing to come out of it all was that it cleared his head for the 93-95 period. To me, his last great productive period.

I agree actually. I think post-SOTT 80s is a bit of a hangover from the Revolution split. And after Prince decided to chase trends and incorporate cheesy hip-hop, which I think was so beneath his potential.

The guy who did Power Fantastic, a few years later he's doing Jughead, really?..... That's Prince!

NouveauDance said:

SquirrelMeat said:

I don't think either configuration is that inspiring.

I think P from the back of 88 to early 91 was a bit lost, and his work shows its. Some great tracks, but no real direction.

I think he was on a downer. Just look at Grafitti and the lyrics to Thieves. He was hanging in there. A lonely old soul.

The music world was changing at the end of hte 80's and I don't think Prince knew which way to go. In the end, he spent 91-92 trying to chase trends and getting bitter with WB about the lack of success compared to Purple Rain.

The best thing to come out of it all was that it cleared his head for the 93-95 period. To me, his last great productive period.

I agree actually. I think post-SOTT 80s is a bit of a hangover from the Revolution split. And after Prince decided to chase trends and incorporate cheesy hip-hop, which I think was so beneath his potential.

The guy who did Power Fantastic, a few years later he's doing Jughead, really?..... That's Prince!

I know what you mean

And just know the story behind Power Fantastic adds another jab because that was just the tip of hte iceberg

Bot of those configurations seem like mere sketches to me.

I've always been partial to "The Voice Inside" and "We Got The Power". So I wish at least one of them would have made it on a proper album release (not counting the short bit of the latter appearing on "Batdance"). If that's the same version "If I Had A Harem" that's circulating then I could have done without it. It's cool as a live blues track, but the studio version isn't very interesting.

I'm kinda happy about most of the material on the "Batman" album, but it could have incorporated a few more songs. In a way it's sad that it's not seen as a "proper" Prince album, because there's an interesting quality to the material on it that just screams "Prince". What's really missing from his official discography is a single LP that evokes the type of a "carnival" and "gospel" type of feel that many of the tracks on "Batman" and on the "Rave" project have (88-89). GB is just too all over the place in that sense.

novabrkr said:

Bot of those configurations seem like mere sketches to me.

I've always been partial to "The Voice Inside" and "We Got The Power". So I wish at least one of them would have made it on a proper album release (not counting the short bit of the latter appearing on "Batdance"). If that's the same version "If I Had A Harem" that's circulating then I could have done without it. It's cool as a live blues track, but the studio version isn't very interesting.

I'm kinda happy about most of the material on the "Batman" album, but it could have incorporated a few more songs. In a way it's sad that it's not seen as a "proper" Prince album, because there's an interesting quality to the material on it that just screams "Prince". What's really missing from his official discography is a single LP that evokes the type of a "carnival" and "gospel" type of feel that many of the tracks on "Batman" and on the "Rave" project have (88-89). GB is just too all over the place in that sense.

Yeah, I still think of what the era would have been like. He was in a good vibe from the Lovesexy aftershows and as much as I enjoy the Batman album a settled Prince album would have been good, videos performances

I wonder what caused the decision for Cat & Boni 2 leave and I think he was moving Sheila E too? And she was going to do another protege album

Graffiti Bridge just burst my bubble I was visually/musically loosing my religion 4 Prince

In usual Prince fashion, many shows saw the premiere of new songs, particularly "Blues in C (If I Had a Harem)" during the Lovesexy tour.

Blues in C (If I Had a Harem)

If I had a harem like all the papers say
If I had a harem like all the papers say
I'd have me a different girl 4 each and every day

If I had a harem here's what I'd do
If I had a harem here's what I'd do
I'd get me 7, 8, or 9 just 2 take care of U
This is true
Yeah

I'd have one 2 wash your body, one 2 wash your hair
One 2 wash U here and another one 2 wash U there
If I had a harem
I'd do things 2 ya that no other man would dare
Yeah

Fantastic!

If I had a harem, this one thing is true
If I had a harem, this one thing is true
I'd only have 'em 4 one reason: just 2 take care of U

Sho'nuff sweet thing, sugar pop, coco-lot
Primafantasticsuperextracool
I'd only have a harem just 2 take sweet care of U
Yeah

If I Had A Harem
"If I Had A Harem" was recorded at Paisley Park in October 1988 in between shows on the Lovesexy tour. The track was placed on the 1988 version of the Rave Unto The Joy Fantastic album. Interestingly, the circulating studio version is remarkably different from the slow, bluesy Lovesexy tour live version (released on video), which was titled "Blues In C (If I Had A Harem)." In contrast, "If I Had A Harem" is a light and bouncy rockabilly-flavored offering, featuring an additional keyboard riff that makes it quite different from the live take. Prince also throws in some jazzy guitar phrases. The lyrics of the two versions are essentially the same but there are several minor differences. The song is lighthearted and humorous, with Prince gently mocking his reputation as a stud. Prince puts a twist on the theme as he explains that, if he had a harem of girls "like all the papers say," he would only "have them for one reason: just to take care of you."

OldFriends4Sale said:

I still haven't put it together to have a listen yet

And I'm afraid you can't (*): Prince's version of 'Good Judy Girlfriend' is not circulating and we can't know how different it would be to Carmen's 'interpretation'.

On the same token, 'Am I Without U' has never been circulating either (and I mean 'circulating' as 'out of very closed circles').

Some years ago there was up on the p2p networks a 'version' of one of the configurations which was just a fan's cut&paste very poor job: the quality was all over the place since all the versions of the circulating songs ranged from fairly good to terrible. And the cat solved the 'problem' of the 'Stimulation' instrumental not being out there by using one of the tracks from the 1977 Loring Park instrumentals!

(*) oh, and if you're sure that you ACTUALLY CAN, just orgnote me...

[Edited 4/1/11 11:45am]

^^ And me.

Original setlist looks good.

I have the into/or unto dvd (can never remember which) but I like the music.

I don't have if I had a harem, but I've heard it and it's a nice tune.

TheDigitalGardener said:

^^ And me.

LOL I'll ask some of my my underground sources lol

vitriol said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I still haven't put it together to have a listen yet

And I'm afraid you can't (*): Prince's version of 'Good Judy Girlfriend' is not circulating and we can't know how different it would be to Carmen's 'interpretation'.

On the same token, 'Am I Without U' has never been circulating either (and I mean 'circulating' as 'out of very closed circles').

Some years ago there was up on the p2p networks a 'version' of one of the configurations which was just a fan's cut&paste very poor job: the quality was all over the place since all the versions of the circulating songs ranged from fairly good to terrible. And the cat solved the 'problem' of the 'Stimulation' instrumental not being out there by using one of the tracks from the 1977 Loring Park instrumentals!

(*) oh, and if you're sure that you ACTUALLY CAN, just orgnote me...

lol u know it.

recently released artwork for the album by Parks

I'd be interested to know if he actually revisted Moonbeam Levels and re-recorded it in 1988, or just had it in mind for the project, but never demoed it.

I believe the only version circulating is from the early 80s.

Still would love to see him work with Wendy and Lisa again, and revisit tracks like this that were from the Revolution era, but never made the cut.

lemoncrush said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

An earlier configuration of the Rave album dated Oct 27th '88 is thought to have been (this has never been confirmed)...

1. The Voice Inside.

2. Melody Cool.

3. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

4. God Is Alive.

5. If I Had A Harem.

6. Stimulation.

7. Still Would Stand All Time.

8. Elephants And Flowers.

9. Big House.

10. We Got The Power.

I think the only other known configuration is the one you have listed in your post which dates from late '88, early '89.

Was "Come Out & Play" recorded in the same period or was it just another Lovesexy outtake?

Harlepolis said:

TheDigitalGardener said:

An earlier configuration of the Rave album dated Oct 27th '88 is thought to have been (this has never been confirmed)...

1. The Voice Inside.

2. Melody Cool.

3. Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.

4. God Is Alive.

5. If I Had A Harem.

6. Stimulation.

7. Still Would Stand All Time.

8. Elephants And Flowers.

9. Big House.

10. We Got The Power.

I think the only other known configuration is the one you have listed in your post which dates from late '88, early '89.

Was "Come Out & Play" recorded in the same period or was it just another Lovesexy outtake?

Never heard of it, sorry.

There was Come Back 2 Me, which dates from '88, given to Sheena Easton.

Is that what you are thinking of?

As far as I know "Come Outside And Play" was recorded either during or after the Graffiti Bridge project. That information is based on the old Sabotage list for outtakes, so some of the newer sources may date it differently. I don't think it sounds similar to the material from the Lovesexy period.

^^^

You're right:

http://www.dtt-lyrics.com/outtakes/A-Z.html#C

July 27. 1988
( LoveSexy Tour )
Olympic Studio, London
Recording Session: God Is Alive w/Mavis Staples

another Lovesexy era song, I still remember when I 1st saw Prince of Paisley Park (which was basically a videography of the Lovesexy era) and Mavis talking about how this recording came about

It was performed live during some LS aftershows

****** ******

Flash, flash!
Jack just got the news
God is alive! God is alive!

CHORUS:
Whoa, oh! {x3}
God is alive

News is comin' like a hurricane
Comin' down hard on those who live in vain
Treatin' each other funky when U know we're all the same
God is alive, this is not a game

CHORUS
(He's alive)

News is comin' like a dog in heat
He's lookin' 4 soldiers with strong feet
That can dance on whoever can't say His name
God is alive, this is not a game (Listen)

CHORUS
(Listen)
(Yeah, I'm a witness)
(Do U believe?) (U know it)

All of His children come take a blissy ride
4 all who see Him, 4 all He lives inside
U can be so happy, purely satisfied
God is alive

Live, live!

One step at a time, we need a new rhyme (Alive)
Up with education, down with crime
Alive!

CHORUS
(God is alive!)

Live, live!
God is alive! {x5}

(CHORUS) {repeat parts in BG}
Oh yeah
Woke me up this morning
Started me on my day
Got my health and strength, y'all
I can truly say
Ooh, He's alive! Well
Ah, He's alive!
All over me
Ah, He's alive!
I'm a livin' witness
That God's alive!
I'm a livin' witness He's alive!
Do U believe that He's alive?
Do U believe, oh, He's alive?
Ooh, yes He is
Sho'nuff He is, well
Yes He is
Each breath I breathe lets me know
Every step I take lets me know
Every song I sing, oh, lets me know
Oh, God is alive!

Whoa, oh