Aristotle said:

Too bad we haven't had a good album since 1995

2nd that.

--do people have a hard time understanding threads???

last studio lp released to stores was lotus in 08

(Ooops, dupe post)

[Edited 3/22/11 13:39pm]

^People may have a hard time understanding threads but you seem to have a hard time understanding everything else because LF/MPLS was released in 2009.

You've even been given a link to the Prince Vault discography page but it's clear that you only see what you want to see.

Anyway, given the quality of what he released I wish he hadn't put out anything after NEWS.

luvsexy4all said:

--do people have a hard time understanding threads???

last studio lp released to stores was lotus in 08

Okay what Calendar are you using? I recall his last studio released 3 disc cd set to be released thru Target on March 29 2009. So it is coming up on 2 years since hi last studio lp release.

madhouseman said:

Aristotle said:

Too bad we haven't had a good album since 1995

2nd that.

madhouseman/Aristotle

luvsexy4all said:

--do people have a hard time understanding threads???

last studio lp released to stores was lotus in 08

databank said:

A "promo" means "not made available to the general public", as in "sent only to radios, TV's, websites and newspaper for broadcast and/or reviews."

A "release" is a records that's made available to the general public, either for purchase or even for free, and that includes giveaways and internet downloads.

Therefore, 20Ten (despite its jacket indicating "promotional release only, not 4 sale") fits in the "release" category, not the "'promo" one.

It's in the released for one day catagory, not a proper release.

databank said:

And what's with that "2010" doesn't count nonsense. U have it, don't u? So no matter how and where it was released, it was released and everybody managed to get it one way or another and it's a studio album.

Yes i have it, but the only way I could get it is illegally. [The 20TEN British promo CD appearing in my music store counts as illegal]

Doesn't matter if it's free or not, physical or digital, in-stores or in newspapers --- 20Ten is still a STUDIO ALBUM.

Yes, it's the only one I can recall not buying in stores, but that's not what the OP was questioning.

^THAT!. Period.

i thought when prince broke away from warner that we were gonna be flooded with music yet it lessened he did more when he was with warner i can deal with 2 or 3 albums a year

NouveauDance said:

luvsexy4all said:

--do people have a hard time understanding threads???

last studio lp released to stores was lotus in 08

PERFECT!!!

802 said:

databank said:

And what's with that "2010" doesn't count nonsense. U have it, don't u? So no matter how and where it was released, it was released and everybody managed to get it one way or another and it's a studio album.

Yes i have it, but the only way I could get it is illegally. [The 20TEN British promo CD appearing in my music store counts as illegal]

No, they count as second hand CD's. Second hand aren't illegal.

databank said:

802 said:

Yes i have it, but the only way I could get it is illegally. [The 20TEN British promo CD appearing in my music store counts as illegal]

No, they count as second hand CD's. Second hand aren't illegal.

I'm pretty sure it was only meant to be in those newspapers.

I wish I had that recent interview where he said something like... The Studio Process is a lost art form, cause everyone can do it..

Also I'm sure there's no money in the studio albums per the way he wants all the rights( which is 100% justified).. Therefore.. Distribution becomes an obstacle.. I love the fact that he's still like Steve Jobs in his creative Marketing.. he still gets it out and maximizes his profits.. he just sacrifices Airplay..As much as he is creative with his music, he is pretty creative with his Marketing too. I'm sure so new music is on the way... as it always is...

cbarnes3121 said:

i thought when prince broke away from warner that we were gonna be flooded with music yet it lessened he did more when he was with warner i can deal with 2 or 3 albums a year

The only time there was 2-3 albums a year from WB was:

1994 - Come & The Black Album

and since TBA wasn't new & was only released to get out of the WB contract, even that wasn't really 2 "new" albums...

802 said:

databank said:

No, they count as second hand CD's. Second hand aren't illegal.

I'm pretty sure it was only meant to be in those newspapers.

That still doesn't make it illegal. You act as if 2nd hand copies are the equivalent of bootlegs. They are not, not even close.

There's an argument to be made about the legality of reselling actual promotional copies, and even that argument is BS. There is nothing about buying the paper and selling the disc that is even remotely illegal.

thepope2the9s said:

madhouseman said:

2nd that.

madhouseman/Aristotle

You can fight it, but the reality is that he hasn't made a classic album since leaving Warners. There are many that have some great tracks, and he is usually a great performer, but his song writing has become weaker, as a whole, and most of the time I am left wanting more. I think the promise of a new Prince album rarely delivers on that promise. I've said it before, but when was the last time you pulled up to a stoplight and the car next to you was jamming on a Prince song recorded within the last 15-16 years? It ain't happening.

So the more accurate thing I meant to say was there hasn't been a GREAT album since 1995. Prince is better than 'good'. When he is focused, he is the best... just plain 'good' is what you'd get from an album by Jackson Browne... not from Prince.

Prince was releasing music for WB for 18 years. He has been independent for 15 years. Can you honestly say that a Greatest Hits album from the last decade and a half would be anywhere as incredible as Prince: Hits & B-sides? Honestly?

djThunderfunk said:

802 said:

I'm pretty sure it was only meant to be in those newspapers.

That still doesn't make it illegal. You act as if 2nd hand copies are the equivalent of bootlegs. They are not, not even close.

There's an argument to be made about the legality of reselling actual promotional copies, and even that argument is BS. There is nothing about buying the paper and selling the disc that is even remotely illegal.

2nd hand copies are not illegal if it was released properly.

802 said:

djThunderfunk said:

That still doesn't make it illegal. You act as if 2nd hand copies are the equivalent of bootlegs. They are not, not even close.

There's an argument to be made about the legality of reselling actual promotional copies, and even that argument is BS. There is nothing about buying the paper and selling the disc that is even remotely illegal.

2nd hand copies are not illegal if it was released properly.

Agreed.

Unless you are saying that 20Ten was not released properly and therefor it is illegal in the case of that album... that I would not agree to.

Either way.

djThunderfunk said:

802 said:

I'm pretty sure it was only meant to be in those newspapers.

That still doesn't make it illegal. You act as if 2nd hand copies are the equivalent of bootlegs. They are not, not even close.

There's an argument to be made about the legality of reselling actual promotional copies, and even that argument is BS. There is nothing about buying the paper and selling the disc that is even remotely illegal.

I remembered recently reading about a ruling on this:

http://www.hiphopdx.com/i...-cds-legal

by Slava Kuperstein

posted January 08, 2011 12:49:00 PM CST

An appeals court rules against Universal Music in what could be a landmark case.

An appeals court upheld on Tuesday (January 4) a ruling that said consumers have the right to re-sell promotional CDs.

A panel of judges from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit determined that Los Angeles music re-seller Troy Augusto was within his rights by buying and re-selling music, including promo CDs that are often issued by record labels. Universal Music Group sued Augusto and his company back in 2007, arguing that the distribution of the CDs without its permition was a violation of copyright.

The U.S. District Court, in its 2008 ruling, disagreed with Universal's stance, indicating that, legally, UMG's distribution of the promo CDs constituted a gift in that the label never required anything in exchange for the CDs.

According to paidcontent.org, UMG's options include asking for a re-hearing of the 9th Circuit, or to appeal to the Supreme Court, though neither option seems likely.

“The Ninth Circuit recognized an important principle: that you can’t eliminate consumers’ rights just by claiming there’s a ‘license agreement,’" Explained Joe Gratz of the Durie Tangri law firm, which represented Augusto. "Once a copyrighted work is freely given, the copyright holder isn’t in charge anymore. The copyright owner can’t stop you from selling it or lending it to a friend.”

The ruling in this case is significant in that it could have implications for consumers' rights regarding the resale of other copyrighted items.

Universal Music Group, home to artists such as Lil Wayne, Eminem, Kid Cudi, Kanye, Young Jeezy and many more, has yet to comment on the matter.

802 said:

djThunderfunk said:

That still doesn't make it illegal. You act as if 2nd hand copies are the equivalent of bootlegs. They are not, not even close.

There's an argument to be made about the legality of reselling actual promotional copies, and even that argument is BS. There is nothing about buying the paper and selling the disc that is even remotely illegal.

2nd hand copies are not illegal if it was released properly.

So in the case of 2010, you have someone over there buy the paper for you or find one on eBay and tada, you have a CD. But you think that shouldn't count as a released studio album?

20Ten is recorded in a studio and it was released somewhere through a medium/channel.

That it isn't released in the same country as the buyer doesn't make it unreleased.

Even in the old days records/cds like parade were released in different countries but not in all.

Most of the times the release of de cd/lp was through recordstores and also sometimes supermarkets.

This time the method of releasing is a news paper instead of a shop or internet

and the market area is smaller but it is still released.

If your question was location based like 'WHY NO STUDIO lp in the US in YEARS' it would be more valid.

[Edited 3/23/11 1:49am]

Therefore, 20Ten (despite its jacket indicating "promotional release only, not 4 sale") fits in the "release" category, not the "'promo" one.

udo said:

Therefore, 20Ten (despite its jacket indicating "promotional release only, not 4 sale") fits in the "release" category, not the "'promo" one.

Did you check the 20ten disc? Promo!

802 said:

Gohi said:

There was no album released in 2008. We got two Prince albums in 2009. And the "2010 giveaway" still counts.

It doesn't really count, it's was only a promo release. It would count if you could buy it in a store that sells music.

huh? Why wouldn't it count? If you don't pay for an album it's not an album?

What's next, if they don't release 3 singles from an album, it's not really an album?

I really don't understand people's thoughts sometimes.....

^Well, actually, calling those 'thoughts' is a bit far fetched...

robertlove said:

802 said:

It doesn't really count, it's was only a promo release. It would count if you could buy it in a store that sells music.

huh? Why wouldn't it count? If you don't pay for an album it's not an album?

What's next, if they don't release 3 singles from an album, it's not really an album?

I really don't understand people's thoughts sometimes.....

Music is only music when it's a priced commodity. If it doesn't fit into that pre-conceived mold, 802 is not prepared to call it a "real" album. "Real" albums must be extortionately priced, because that's the type of thing we've been taught to accept.

udo said:

Therefore, 20Ten (despite its jacket indicating "promotional release only, not 4 sale") fits in the "release" category, not the "'promo" one.

Did you check the 20ten disc? Promo!

Did u even read what i wrote? I don't think so, read again...