New topic
Printable| Author | Message |
TRC is Princes most controversial album/cd Just like he said even before it was released. I rememeber everyone scoffing at how it was printed on the marketing pages etc of how its "The Contorversial new cd.." and people said "how can he know that..what a ding dong for predicting that etc?"..well it has come true. TRC at least in princefandom-land has been discussed and lines drawn etc. The music factor..the religion factor..the hate whites factor..the abe factor..the women as subservient factor..the wedding feast factor..whoo boy! He sure did piss a lot of people off, regain old fans, alienate some, and got folks talking about his music and content. Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again. "Climb in my fur." | |
- E-mail - orgNote -  Report post to moderator |
I wouldn't say controversial...i would say attention grabber...nothing really controversial on this album...just rehashing old chit...oh well...just my opinion | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Proud Member of the Gay Org Mafiaalexnevermind319 said: I wouldn't say controversial...i would say attention grabber...nothing really controversial on this album...just rehashing old chit...oh well...just my opinion Much more than attention grabber ..that shit caused controversy as I stated above..even the Controversy cd stood up on its jewel cased legs and said "damn...I aint about shit anymore"."Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
rdhull said: even the Controversy cd stood up on its jewel cased legs and said "damn...I aint about shit anymore".
 Put yourself on the worldwide org map! www.frappr.com/princeorg |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
alexnevermind319 said: I wouldn't say controversial...i would say attention grabber...nothing really controversial on this album...just rehashing old chit...oh well...just my opinion i have to disagree. i think he went down an avenue he's never approached before. that's not to say i like or dislike everything about the album. i could've done without a lot of the preaching, but the music really is fabulous.
--the deep voice was a little too much also-but hey can't please everyone. TRC is likely an insight into the new Prince. A little older, wiser, somewhat thick-skinned, more religious than spiritual IMO, and not as altruistic as he may have appeared on previous albums. Times change, artists do too. The Prince of SOTT is not the Prince of TRC. "Great dancers are not great because of their technique, they are great because of their passion" -- Martha Graham | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
TRC is like..Puck on 10  "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I totally agree
I hope it grabed the attention of old fans looking for some meaning in music or people looking for meaning in music period I hope it hasnt fell on deaf ears I dont feel its racist in any sense its a truth that hasnt been told till now  | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rdhull said: Just like he said even before it was released. I rememeber everyone scoffing at how it was printed on the marketing pages etc of how its "The Contorversial new cd.." and people said "how can he know that..what a ding dong for predicting that etc?"..well it has come true. TRC at least in princefandom-land has been discussed and lines drawn etc. The music factor..the religion factor..the hate whites factor..the abe factor..the women as subservient factor..the wedding feast factor..whoo boy! He sure did piss a lot of people off, regain old fans, alienate some, and got folks talking about his music and content. Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again.
It's true that TRC has provoked a lot of debate on the org, but it's hard to label something that hardly travelled past his established fan base controversial. That's why I think people scoffed at the time- it seemed to suggest Prince held enough weight with the general population to create some sort of heated storm of public debate. [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 19:38:12 PST 2003 by fairmoan] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
fairmoan said: rdhull said: Just like he said even before it was released. I rememeber everyone scoffing at how it was printed on the marketing pages etc of how its "The Contorversial new cd.." and people said "how can he know that..what a ding dong for predicting that etc?"..well it has come true. TRC at least in princefandom-land has been discussed and lines drawn etc. The music factor..the religion factor..the hate whites factor..the abe factor..the women as subservient factor..the wedding feast factor..whoo boy! He sure did piss a lot of people off, regain old fans, alienate some, and got folks talking about his music and content. Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again.
It's true that TRC has provoked a lot of debate on the org, but it's hard to label something that hardly travelled past his established fan base controversial. That's why I think people scoffed at the time- it seemed to suggest Prince held enough weight with the general population to create some sort of heated storm of public debate. I'm not talking only from the orgs perpective. "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
When I first heard TRC, my first impression was 'Fuck, this shit is hardcore!' I absolutely loved it.
The title track alone is THE jam and is just as much of a classic anthem as Controversy. The Bob George style voiceover, the call back to the Sexuality stance and the Camille styled phrasings "The Agreement - with every birth we keep it so. Never changing one piece of it. In fear of what would unfold" And when you finally understand what the fuck he was talking about, you just knew Prince meant business. I respect the fact that he said what he believed in. Preach it, Rd!  [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 19:51:50 PST 2003 by Anji] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
MTV was wellaware of this album and put posters advertising this album in stratigic locations on the sets of their shows It wasnt advertized accewpt for the day it came out with a couple commercials that I saw on BET but I noticed that the poster of it kept popping up in TV sets | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I  TRC... | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I still Say 'Dirty Mind" that truly still throws some people off just for "Sister" alone."TRC" threw some folks off for it content&also Prince didn't seem like a Rainbow for all People any longer.while I wasn't crazy about the Album I give Him Credit for standing up for what He was trying to get across. mistermaxxx | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Anji said: When I first heard TRC, my first impression was 'Fuck, this shit is hardcore!' I absolutely loved it.
The title track alone is THE jam and is just as much of a classic anthem as Controversy. The Bob George style voiceover, the call back to the Sexuality stance and the Camille styled phrasings "The Agreement - with every birth we keep it so. Never changing one piece of it. In fear of what would unfold" And when you finally understand what the fuck he was talking about, you just knew Prince meant business. I respect the fact that he said what he believed in. Preach it, Rd!
[This message was edited Wed Feb 5 19:51:50 PST 2003 by Anji] Amen bruddah! This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Supernova said: Anji said: When I first heard TRC, my first impression was 'Fuck, this shit is hardcore!' I absolutely loved it.
The title track alone is THE jam and is just as much of a classic anthem as Controversy. The Bob George style voiceover, the call back to the Sexuality stance and the Camille styled phrasings "The Agreement - with every birth we keep it so. Never changing one piece of it. In fear of what would unfold" And when you finally understand what the fuck he was talking about, you just knew Prince meant business. I respect the fact that he said what he believed in. Preach it, Rd!
[This message was edited Wed Feb 5 19:51:50 PST 2003 by Anji] Amen bruddah! And let the chu'ch say... AMEN  "That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32 | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rdhull said: Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again.
actually, a mere 100,000 units sold constitutes a rather ignored album. this message brought to you by logic. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I don't know. Anyone can push people's buttons, that doesn't make the work commendable.
TRC left me feeling empty and let down. I felt like an artist I grew up admiring, someone who always went beyond the standard and the norm, was now settling for a cookie cutter set of beliefs that fails to accept the true diversity of life and man. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
TRC is a cd that is controversial on a much higher level. Prince explores issues and subjects that most mainstream recording artists would not. In doing so he doesn't need to be offensive or controversial with explicit lyrics or sexual issues. It's also a new musical journey and that itself has caused much controversy. One thing is certain,Prince always creates something unique on many different levels. [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 21:04:16 PST 2003 by TongueBox] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
dumbass said: rdhull said: Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again.
actually, a mere 100,000 units sold constitutes a rather ignored album. Does that mean it's not controversial? | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PeterJL121 said: The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. Does how explicit a song is does equate to how controversial it is? No. Just because more people have heard Darlin' Nikki than Sister, does that necesarily make it more controversial? No. Rainbow Children rise. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
dumbass said: rdhull said: Love it or hate it but you can't ignore it.This was his Controversy..again.
actually, a mere 100,000 units sold constitutes a rather ignored album. so who cares about sales..this shit caused rifts etc..waves. please see where I said his most controversial and not his most sold..it doesn't have to sell shit to be controversial. Ignored? yeah right lol.Im surprised at you. . [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 21:19:13 PST 2003 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
NPGMCsucks said: I don't know. Anyone can push people's buttons, that doesn't make the work commendable.
TRC left me feeling empty and let down. I felt like an artist I grew up admiring, someone who always went beyond the standard and the norm, was now settling for a cookie cutter set of beliefs that fails to accept the true diversity of life and man. What's commendable is that he's saying what he believes in, regardless of how it will be perceived. The fact that his beliefs are pushing people's buttons is a result of his new agenda, it's not the cause of it. Regarding your last point, how many people actually follow the JW's religion? Does it enjoy mass appeal? Rainbow Children rise. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
PeterJL121 said: . Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it.
End. I disagree..if only one person heard one song that has several thought provoking..and hell, just provoking issues, it could be considered more controversial than something thats just overtly lascivious as a Darling Nikki thats heard by ten mil. So the answer is yes..if a tree falls in a forest and nobody is there to witness it..it DOES make a sound. "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
NPGMCsucks said: I don't know. Anyone can push people's buttons, that doesn't make the work commendable.
it is not about being 'commendable"..its about being controversial and it was and not on purpose or forced for the most part either..it is one mans staunch views and blatant finger pointing..not as a gimmick but hearfelt and authentic. TRC left me feeling empty and let down. I felt like an artist I grew up admiring, someone who always went beyond the standard and the norm, was now settling for a cookie cutter set of beliefs that fails to accept the true diversity of life and man.
How controversial...see if it were NPS you would have just used cookie cutter lame rnb beats to describe..with TRC you add beliefs and diversity of man...and you are even more let down semingly then a rnb record like NPS..controvery and ya didnt even see it. "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Anji said: PeterJL121 said: The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. Does how explicit a song is does equate to how controversial it is? No. Just because more people have heard Darlin' Nikki than Sister, does that necesarily make it more controversial? No. Rainbow Children rise. preach deacon "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rdhull said: Anji said: PeterJL121 said: The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. Does how explicit a song is does equate to how controversial it is? No. Just because more people have heard Darlin' Nikki than Sister, does that necesarily make it more controversial? No. Rainbow Children rise. preach deacon "Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father will bring the Everlasting Now" | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: PeterJL121 said: The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. Does how explicit a song is does equate to how controversial it is? No. Just because more people have heard Darlin' Nikki than Sister, does that necesarily make it more controversial? No. Rainbow Children rise. preach deacon "Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father will bring the Everlasting Now" theorcratic order lol "Climb in my fur." | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
rdhull said: Anji said: rdhull said: Anji said: PeterJL121 said: The fact is, Prince's latest studio album will always be considered his most controversial among fans because they will always be analyzing and debating his most recent work above all.
However, I don't think an album can truly be controversial if only fans and critics have listened to it. Darling Nikki wasn't nearly as explicit as Head or Sister, but it was far more controversial because ten million people heard it. End. Does how explicit a song is does equate to how controversial it is? No. Just because more people have heard Darlin' Nikki than Sister, does that necesarily make it more controversial? No. Rainbow Children rise. preach deacon "Accurate knowledge of Christ and the Father will bring the Everlasting Now" theorcratic order lol Every night Prince pondered, "Y'all ain't with me tonight. I'm talking about theocratic order! Are you with me tonight?!" Every night, thousands of adoring fans screamed, "Yeaahhh!" Rainbow Children rise. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
don't people actually have to hear something to deem it controversial ?
apart from us who has heard it anyway ? [This message was edited Wed Feb 5 21:39:18 PST 2003 by justanotherasshole] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |