After listening to Darling Nikki a few times, I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period. My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

soundslike google could answer that or bing

I'm sorry, but this is one ridiculous thread. There's no backwards occult message in this song.

Oh, and Prince didn't worship Satan during this period, or any period of his life.

Darling Nikki

I knew a girl named Nikki
I guess u could say she was a sex fiend
I met her in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
She said "how'd u like 2 waste some time'"
And I could not resist when I saw little Nikki grind

She took me 2 her castle
And I just couldn't believe my eyes
She had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
She said "sign your name on the dotted line"
The lights went out
And Nikki started 2 grind

Nikki

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell u what she did 2 me
But my body will never be the same
Her lovin' will kick your behind
Oh, she'll show u no mercy
But she'll sho'nuff sho'nuff show u how 2 grind

Darlin' Nikki

Woke up the next morning
Nikki wasn't there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone number on the stairs
It said thank u 4 a funky time
Call me up whenever u want 2 grind

Oh, Nikki, ohhhh

Come back Nikki, come back
Your dirty little Prince
wanna grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind grind

{played backwards}
"Hello, how r u' I'm fine. 'cause I know that the Lord is coming soon, coming, coming soon."

©1984 Controversy Music - ASCAP

btw. a Prince classic

This thread...................................................................................

Anyway, I said this in a different thread but IDK why people are tripping over the metaphors used in the song Darling Nikki. Its a song written for a movie. It's fiction. Go with it.

jason7sh said:

I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period.

Irresistible Bitch had already been released, as the b-side to LPWM, so unlikely that it would appear on the next album.

jason7sh said:

My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

There's a couple big long ass threads about Darlin' Nikki and the "occult", use the search feature and you might find some stuff that interests you.

So jason7ish,

What is Darling Nikki about ( a kinky girl, no) & How is Apples dressed for this part of the movie( a bit kinky?, yes??? Is that the connection perhaps??

Like spin said!!!! FICTION!!!!!!!

Oh & im listening to Darling Nikki as I write this!!!! LOVE IT!!!!!!!

[Edited 2/26/11 2:51am]

purplemookiebut said:

soundslike google could answer that or bing

bing cant tell you anything

802 said:

I'm sorry, but this is one ridiculous thread. There's no backwards occult message in this song.

Oh, and Prince didn't worship Satan during this period, or any period of his life.

802, you are wrong, this isn't a rediculous thread and google can not answer everything. In fact, Google sometimes reference this site as a source. You don't know what Prince has done in his life because you don't know him. No need to be defensive about this question, it's a legitimate question. Explain this cloak then . . .

jason7sh said:

After listening to Darling Nikki a few times, I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period. My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Listen...I will PAY YOU to stop posting.

xlr8r said:

jason7sh said:

After listening to Darling Nikki a few times, I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period. My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Listen...I will PAY YOU to stop posting.

I will PAY YOU to stop being a [Name calling snip - luv4u]

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jason7sh said:

xlr8r said:

Listen...I will PAY YOU to stop posting.

I will PAY YOU to stop being a [Name calling snip - luv4u]

.

I will PAY YOU to start using your own shit..oh wait, no I wont becasue we end up getting posts like this one.

jason7sh said:

802 said:

I'm sorry, but this is one ridiculous thread. There's no backwards occult message in this song.

Oh, and Prince didn't worship Satan during this period, or any period of his life.

802, you are wrong, this isn't a rediculous thread and google can not answer everything. In fact, Google sometimes reference this site as a source. You don't know what Prince has done in his life because you don't know him. No need to be defensive about this question, it's a legitimate question. Explain this cloak then . . .

It's glittery pajamas and he was a good mood that night. We know Prince DID NOT do suits and ties but of course wanted to dress how he wanted to dress , no matter if occassion is important or not, which was mostly opposite of what people expected . One of my fav. ceremony outfits of his by the way

From http://www.songmeanings.n...iew/92279/

"I think that this song is an intentional jab at the Moral Majority. I don't feel that this song is about having sex with a hooker. In truth, I believe that Nikki is the Devil. Old Nick is one of Satan's nicknames. The singer signs on the dotted line to seal the contract on his soul. What he is selling it for is unknown - maybe just an amazing sexual experience? However, "my body will never be the same," makes me think that he sells his soul for some physical change or attribute, and that the sex is either a bonus to the actual transformation, or else a a metaphor for the change.

The use of the word "castle" indicates one of royalty (Satan being the leader of hell), and to tempt people, there is everything that money could buy.

His head is spinning, not knowing what he's in store for - this is a hallmark of the individual that undergoes a transformation.

Her love will kick your behind - she'll show no mercy --- could be attributes of Satan.

The backmasking at the end? Certainly a wink at religious zealots who claim that rock is evil, and that Satan hides messages in backwards lyrics. In this case, Prince laughs at them by telling them what they already believe - that The Lord is coming soon.

The word grind makes me think, though. Rather than being a euphemism for sex, I wonder if the word GRIND is using the definition "WORK" -- The Devil works His magic."

Also there's the question why you can hear laughter after the so-called backward message in "Darling Nikki" ??

One could interpret "the lord will come soon" also in a sexual way, then it would be a highly blasphemous statement!

Why is he talking about the "lord" and not "god" in this particular line..... ??? Whats the intention of the laughter????

Purple is the color which stands for royality - and in esoteric circles it is referred to as the colour of "Old Nick" himself.... So could "Purple Rain" actually mean "Purple Reign" ????

[Edited 2/26/11 9:58am]

xlr8r said:

jason7sh said:

I will PAY YOU to stop being a [Name calling snip - luv4u]

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I will PAY YOU to start using your own shit..oh wait, no I wont becasue we end up getting posts like this one.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

jason7sh said:

After listening to Darling Nikki a few times, I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period. My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

The Devil put it on there! He was sitting with Prince when he was putting the songs in order on PR and Prince said, "Ya know Satan, I need one more song, something dark, out of tune, and most of all occultic." Satan stands up and pulls out an 8-track he had in his man-purse and said, "Here, it's not as occultic as my usual stuff, in fact, I'd characterize it as semi-occultic." Prince loved the song, mostly for the references to devices, having just bought a food processor, betamax vcr and a set of curb-feelers. Prince then said, "but Satan, there's no references to fruits or vegetables on here!" Satan replied, "I know, that's because Apples did none of what you'll sing about. Oranges maybe. And don't even get me started about cumquats."In the end, the song caused Tipper Gore to buy more apples and that started the war in Grenada. It's all a conspiracy.

Chas said:

jason7sh said:

After listening to Darling Nikki a few times, I wonder how did this song make it to Purple Rain, especially when Irresistible Bitch is far more superior and it would've been a hit single during that period. My question is, is there a hidden occultic message in Darling Nikki? This song seems so out of tune, so dark and just totally out of place. Apples did none of what he song about. Does anyone have any insight on this?

The Devil put it on there! He was sitting with Prince when he was putting the songs in order on PR and Prince said, "Ya know Satan, I need one more song, something dark, out of tune, and most of all occultic." Satan stands up and pulls out an 8-track he had in his man-purse and said, "Here, it's not as occultic as my usual stuff, in fact, I'd characterize it as semi-occultic." Prince loved the song, mostly for the references to devices, having just bought a food processor, betamax vcr and a set of curb-feelers. Prince then said, "but Satan, there's no references to fruits or vegetables on here!" Satan replied, "I know, that's because Apples did none of what you'll sing about. Oranges maybe. And don't even get me started about cumquats."In the end, the song caused Tipper Gore to buy more apples and that started the war in Grenada. It's all a conspiracy.

802 said:

I'm sorry, but this is one ridiculous thread. There's no backwards occult message in this song.

Oh, and Prince didn't worship Satan during this period, or any period of his life.

Whenever you bring up something that seems slightly negative about Prince.

Prepair for the stoning.

Don't like what you see turn the channel.

I don't understand why people can be such twatnudgers on this site. A question is just a question, stop getting a genital rash over it, damn.

silkylee said:

Whenever you bring up something that seems slightly negative about Prince.

Prepair for the stoning.

Don't like what you see turn the channel.

Thanks for the reply silkylee. For the record, I am an admirer of the Purple Yoda similar to most and all of you. However, I do have a right to question what appears to be suspicious. He isn't Christ. I think that it's healthy to question the celebrities that we place on a mantle. I refuse to drink the purple kool-aid and go along just to get along. I'm intimidated by no one. . . There will be no cyber bullying here.

jason7sh said:

xlr8r said:

I will PAY YOU to start using your own shit..oh wait, no I wont becasue we end up getting posts like this one.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

Then why dont you post about substance and not abut sillyness as if Prince was using occult symbolisms etc. How old are you, 12? You know god dang well there is no occult stuff on it. You dont know about the backwards amsking at thsi point. Pfft. Its a public message board so expect to get comments.

Oh, stop is please. It's just a record!!!

xlr8r said:

as if Prince was using occult symbolisms

He does ALL THE TIME !!!!

If you cant see it then i would suggest you get yourself some books about these topics instead of playing the expert on something you obviously have no clue about

xt1000 said:

Oh, stop is please. It's just a record!!!

Don't tell these people that. Can you imagine how they are off the net though for real? lol

Soulstar77A said:

xlr8r said:

as if Prince was using occult symbolisms

He does ALL THE TIME !!!!

If you cant see it then i would suggest you get yourself some books about these topics instead of playing the expert on something you obviously have no clue about

"yo Vera..we got another one" (c) mental health admitting nurse

Aha and your point is????

As i said you have no clue about these things... Go read some books!

Soulstar77A said:

Aha and your point is????

As i said you have no clue about these things... Go read some books!

Go read A book.

I don't know about 'occultic' messages, but I'm pretty sure if you listen really close you'll hear someone saying 'you big dummy!' over and over.

Not in the song, though.