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Dead Internet. Do you think it's possible that when Prince said the internet is dead, what actually happened was he forgot to (or refused to) pay his internet provider and he got disconnected?
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Maybe it's Prince's standard response to Bria when she can't figure something out.
Bria: "Hey P, what's a 'Ponzi scheme' all about?" Prince: *peers over sunglasses slowly* "Google that." Bria: "Oh you know I can't work those smartphones! I get so frustrated! Can you look it up, please?" Prince: *raising eyes back to normal level* "The internet is dead to me." | |
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Yes, of course. That's it. You're a real fucker. You act like you own this place--ParanoidAndroid <-- about as witty as this princess gets! 
I hope everyone pays more attention to Sags posts--sweething 
Jesus weeps 
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lol =D  | |
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I think he means "it's not real life" A virtual world with facades....not indicative of reality. A part of reality but not updated and not always true.
I have an example. Not a nice one but it's factual. 2 people run a Bed and Breakfast SPA on a perfect paradise island with 1000 inhabitants. They fire two employees who return that night. The employees take revenge. The owners are stabbed to death and then set alight. They obviously don't survive.
Their website though, does. It takes 4 months before it disappears from the web. Anyone visiting the site would think of only what they see. Paradise, health and life. Haha...far call from reality isn't it?
The internet can be dead. Perhaps he should have said "it is not always indicative of real life."
"Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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I guess he meant that governments tend turn off the net to stifle protests. Coming soon to a country near YOU! Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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My internet was dead yesterday. Damn ISPs!
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He never pays any other bills so you could be right. | |
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Maybe his attorneys and accountants convinced him that the internet died just to keep him from starting any more bullshit music clubs. | |
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 Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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That explains EVERYTHING! | |
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Yep.
But seriously, I think he meant it as slang, like "this party is dead", because other than for kids getting their music free, for artists accustomed to making their living from music sales, I gotta agree, the internet is dead. From a financial perspective for an artist that is.
Prince is a strange one and I am not being an apologist for him, but that's what he meant by that. | |
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Correction: you can make money selling music on the internet, but the internet is still dead to Prince, because Prince can't control it and can't make as much money off it as he wishes to support his fancy lifestyle. He figures it is easier and more lucrative to focus on touring and selling one off CD's to newspapers or record store chains, than to make sure all his music is legally available for purchase on the net. Yet he still bitches that it gets downloaded illegally.
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People can keep saying that until they turn blue, but the facts do not support that. At least not relevant numbers at the moment anyway. | |
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"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it - Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers!"
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Not sure what facts you are looking at, but the legal download market DOES make the music industry money. They lose out on the dwindeling CD sales.
Perhabs the fact you are talking about, is that the music inudstry can't make as much as it used to anymore with their bloated CD prices and cartel practices. | |
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People are still trying to figure this all out. Trying to figure out the best business model for the internet-age music business. Because unless you are The Beatles or other world famous artists that does not have to do anything but to re-issue work you have already made a tidy fortune on, and have nothing to loose in the matter, you will not fare well unless it is just a loss leader for trinkets and concerts. And there is no question that physical media is dead other than for limited special edition collector versions with added value gimmicks and trinkets.
Take a look at this article http://thecynicalmusician...have-been/
[Edited 2/24/11 6:33am] | |
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In the end of the day it all comes down to money. Prince can complain all he wants about iTunes and downloads but I know it and he knows it that he won't be able to climb to #1 on iTunes anytime soon. As much as we love him and blah blah blah, but you gotta admit it - he can't fight against Lady Gaga and her Little Monsters. | |
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who cares? | |
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See, even if this "cynical musician's" numbers are truthful and correct, they still prove my point that you CAN make money on the internet, just not the ridiculous amounts you could as a music mogul's bitch.
The article also proves my other point, which I have made before, but not yet on this thread, which is that the prime reason why the industry fails to make a lot of money on the internet is because it has totally and utterly FAILED to adapt its business models.
But, as we can expect, they will never ever admit to that.
How can you? Admitting that you are a loser isn't easy. It's much, much easier to point the blaming finger at others, even if they are your own customers. Yep, the music industry is the ONLY industry that consistently blames its customers for its own demise.
And I am sorry that I have to say it: He started off so well, but Prince displays the epitome of this disastrous attitude. The man has thousands of songs to sell, he could make loads and loads of money if he would just make them available, yet he doesn't even have his own website!
It's totally unreasonable to complain about losing out money on illegal downloading when you do not even offer the music yourself. Yet, that's what Prince does, including pointless lawsuits, DRM tricks and cease and desist letters to his long time fans, that only make him lose more money and fans, thus even more money.
And that's what record companies and other musicians have been doing for over a decade as well. Whining, bitching, complaining, and filing lawsuits here and there, in the name of "protection", but all the while doing NOTHING to offer the music in a good format at a reasonable price to the music lover worldwide and cashing in on it. Just losing out.
It's only the last couple of years, thanks mainly to the success of Apple Itunes, that music companies have started to make more and more available online and hey what do you know, they are making money with it! But like Prince, they still only offer a fraction of all the great music that's really out there.
And they blame that on the consumer?
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
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What's really stopping multinational, multi billion dollar companies like Universal Music Group, WB record, Sony/BMG and EMI from doing the same as Itunes and then better?
And what's stopping Prince really from opening his OWN online record store, selling ALL that he can sell? Making himself happy because he is making money and making his fans happy?
What is it?
Not profitable enough? As opposed to CD sales? CD's of Prince for $5 for example, or the vast majority of his albums that I cannot even purchase in the record store, because his bin is practically empty?
If online digital sales are the ONLY way left in this digital age to sell a lot of units, then they better hurry up and ADAPT to it.
But Prince is happy as long as he makes a million or two by selling yet another hastily put together, barely mediocre album to some newspaper, in just one or two countries, for just a one off release, while for the rest he plays some shows for 2 million a night, doesn't even maintain a website, yet still likes to bitch that his fans download his stuff illegally. Which by the way, he can only get away with, so far, because he is such a superstar.
And record companies, they seem to be pretty happy with the idea that more and more losses give more and more reason to glue together even more than they already have he last 2 decades, untill there is only one or two major music moguls left in the world.
Should we blame the consumer for that too?
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No one can deny a lot of blame has to go to Prince, I agree. He is something else.
Things are never going back to the way they were no matter how many tantrum he throws. We do not know his legal situation in terms of his back catalog, but a lot of his problems are egocentric.
He is that rare commodity that does not need itunes or cdbaby or amazon for folks to find his music or products. I am sure Apple paid The Beatles a nice flat royal sum for the pleasure of selling their catalog, something that will not be offered to Prince or anyone else. But his tantrums earn him nothing. And as you pointed out, you can earn "something" maybe ridiculously little, but something is always better than nothing.
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We don't know all the legal problems that major record companies face in trying to make their catalogues, especially the old stuff, legally online either, but I know they are serious.
Yet, they have themselves to blame for those problems too, because they created them themselves.
As did Prince and still does.
Really, if they would have come together 10 years ago and be able to work something out, there could have been remasters already and his entire back catalogue could have been online.
But Prince wants it all and WB doesn't want to let go of all.
See, it's just so unsound and unwise to blame the consumer.
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Why does Prince pretend he is in the same league, sales wise, as the Beatles? He is not so why expect to be treated the same? Since the Beatles are one of the best selling acts ever, Apple reasonably expected to sell a lot of Beatles tunes, making a nice advantage not a big problem.
The issue really is that Prince always expects to be paid in advance. For whatever he does.
That's why the npgmc and lotusflower were set up that way, and that's why the internet is "dead", when he found out that not enough fans would fall for this scheme again and let LF die without any explanation, other than "the internet is dead".
He is losing out, day in day out, this way.
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