dawnboy999 said:

All this talk about how normal you can be on coke is nonsense. Any fool knows that every person has a different reaction to drugs whether it be weed or cocaine or a fifth of scotch. Cocaine can make some people very paranoid and turn them into rambling idiots.According to the story I heard it would make Prince seem wacked out of his mind. This is not a judgement on my part it just also makes sense in that Prince would have endless energy in his live performances yet could seem almost lifeless in recorded interviews.

we may idolise prince but not for one second do i believe idol gossip either.there would have been some leak to the media if this were true.Hes done VIAGRA probably.thats it for sure.And is it not nice to have one rock star thats square.its something for us all to aspire too.

Third hand, huh? Well, who am I to question that. Shucks, we invaded Iraq over third-hand information.

RodeoSchro said:

Third hand, huh? Well, who am I to question that. Shucks, we invaded Iraq over third-hand information.

EXACTLY

Whatever, Prince has not done anything besides that little X experiment allegedly in 88. I need onyl Per Nilsen to tell me otherwise!

V10LETBLUES said:

Here is your video evidence.

oops!

I meant this one.

lmfao!!!!!!

vitriol said:

laurarichardson said:

no one could be wacked out on hard drugs (cocaine) and work at P’s pace.

Oh, really.

That must be the reason why the Stones only made a couple of albums and only toured twice.

Well by all accounts the only Stone that was really strung out was Keith. The Stones are a band with other members who can pick up the fucking slack. P is a one man operation. If he goes off on a bender he does not have permenent band members to pick up the slack.

I think you need to stop advocating drug use and think about all the performers who are not longer around because of drugs.

savagedreams said:

Frederick96 said:

Everyone has tried something I imagine. But unless anyone here has actually seen it then we shouldn't spread second hand knowledge. Just my thought.

i'm not going to make guesses about what prince has or hasnt done, but 'everyone has tried something'? well, you imagine wrong. i have never done drugs, and there are plenty of other people in the world who have never done drugs.

I agree, as I have never done drugs myself. I just meant if he has he was not the only one so not a big news moment.

MarquessMarq said:

Hate to burst your bubble, but no one here with any sense fucking cares.

agreed

laurarichardson said:

blackbob said:

he has probably dabbled in drugs from time to time but prince's output and workrate and how he looks today shows he was never a heavy or prolonged user....the music and his search for 'the truth' has always been the most important things in his life....its no big deal....

What you have typed makes sense because no one could be wacked out on hard drugs (cocaine) and work at P’s pace. However, this is P org so do not look for common sense to factor in on this board. No one thinks P is some angel but I think this posters friend is full of crap and I would really love to see the video evidence. ( being drunk and unprepared at a JB show is not evidence of cocaine use).

What the hell are you talking about?

If anything, cocaine would help him work harder and faster. Way more efficient to be speedballing than to simply avoid sleeping by drinking..... tea? Right.

Ohhh lawrd................

paisleypark4 said:

dawnboy999 said:

I have been around people high on coke and act normal...even fall asleep...

That's a pretty reliable indicator of ADHD. They fall asleep because for them a small amount of coke is soothing.

Self medicating is irresponsible.

Mindflux said:

vitriol said:

Now I'd like to know how is it impossible to maintain a conversation with someone on coke, which is the drug which makes you friendlier and looses your tongue like no other.

But, most of all, close this!!

[Edited 2/14/11 5:27am]

I just love how you pointed out that only "idiots" would be interested in Prince's drug consumption and then immediately announce your own interest in the same issue

Furthermore, its not always happy-days in the world of coke, you know? Particularly for those that are overdoing it - they tend to become paranoid, agressive etc etc For someone who does the occasional line at parties and so on, it provides them with a nice buzz, energy and, as you rightly say a "loosening of the tongue" - but someone who is dependent or has a serious habit, that's a different story.

I'm in no way suggesting Prince has been a serious coke-fiend as the thread somewhat sensationally suggests (without one shred of proof) - but I'm not saying he hasn't tried it either. What is reasonably clear, is that Prince hasn't visibly suffered from any signs of excess with intoxication.

It doesn't make you friendy at all! When someone is on coke, they think they are friendly and cool. However, that's because of the coke that enhances grandiosity, arrogance, narcism etc. In reality that person is an ass.

Cokeheads are easily recognized because they are cold hearted, have unhealthy gross egos, and are nervous and anxious. Also if they 'just' take coke in the weekends at parties. The few days of abstination doesn't prove that there is no addiction.

Coke is not innocent. It changes your brain and your personality. It's very destructive. However it will destruct your live slowly. So you don't notice in what horrible state you'r actually in.

In the end, only other cokeheads will want to hang out with you. And you don't notice you've lost you'r real friends.

I've seen too many clients and people around me to know that coke is the devil's way of playing with you.

[Edited 2/14/11 13:46pm]

dawnboy999 said:

When my sister asked him what it was like having conversations with Prince he responded that it was impossible to speak with him cause he was always on cocaine.

Think about the mental/spiritual space he was in during that time and imagine the sort of conversations he would have had with no help from drugs.

I imagine more than likely this friend would have dismissed it as being drug-fueled, when really he was "impossible to speak with" because to someone that's not interested in such conversations, it would come across as riddles and nonsense (chemtrails, anyone?)

So the supposed proof of regular drug use being discussed here is actually third-hand information based on assumptions because Prince was *gasp* impossible to speak with during the early part of this decade.

Really?

dandeeland said:

He needs to dabble in them again now. Maybe then he can make some music worth listening too.

So what you are saying is that if Prince took any drugs and ultimately risking his life, he should have continued to mess up his health and body just to make "better music" to make you and your life better. Do I have that right? If so, that is some fucked up shit for anyone to wish for anyone. Some of you in here are really scraping the barrel, for real.

dawnboy999 said:

While I don't know what his situation is now this what I heard from my younger sister. While Prince lived in Toronto when he was married to Manny a close friend of my sister was a player in the music scene here and would frequent Princes parties on Torontos mansion row which is known as the Bridal Path.When my sister asked him what it was like having conversations with Prince he responded that it was impossible to speak with him cause he was always on cocaine.You can take that how you like but there is a lot of video evidence through the years that would support my sisters freind story. Personally I don't think it's a big deal he is a rock star after all but a lot of Prince fans like to idealize him and refuse to beleive otherwise.

Not only is this 3rd hand information as others have pointed out but your sisters friend is making a huge assumption. Did he see him snort cocaine? Did he see him with a straw and no drink in sight? Did he see him with a rolled up dollar bill?

Just watch the majority of interviews Prince has ever done and it is clear he would be hard to have a conversation with.

See the dawn boy.

stillwaiting said:

Well...can't prove Prince was on drugs, but here's a bit of "possible proof" :

1. He let Tony M anywhere near him, and of course in the band

2. He let Tony M in the band

3. He released Jughead while "lesser" songs like Moonbeam Levels, Witness, Train, Purple Music, Data Bank, Old Friends 4 Sale(original version), etc...remain rotting in the vault.

4. Tony M

5. Incredibly bad business decisions in regard to his career. Way too many to mention here, but it is almost as if somebody bet him a billion dollars to ruin his own career.

6. He let Tony M in the band.

7. $77 for a size extra small T Shirt, and then making fun of stealing $77 from fans by putting 77 tracks on 20Ten.

8. Tony M

omfg!!!!! u rock that's hysterical

dJJ said:

paisleypark4 said:

I have been around people high on coke and act normal...even fall asleep...

That's a pretty reliable indicator of ADHD. They fall asleep because for them a small amount of coke is soothing.

Self medicating is irresponsible.

really? i have heard certain drugs affect ppl with ADHD different.our chemical levels in are brain are different. Coke would soothe me? still no desire to try it ever though

ya know i lurked this b4 i really started posted daily back in october but i'm sick of all these posts were ppl can't you the search feature and notice there are already how many threads on this subject! i can only imagine how you ppl who have been on here for yrs feel?!

purplemookiebut said:

dJJ said:

That's a pretty reliable indicator of ADHD. They fall asleep because for them a small amount of coke is soothing.

Self medicating is irresponsible.

really? i have heard certain drugs affect ppl with ADHD different.our chemical levels in are brain are different. Coke would soothe me? still no desire to try it ever though

ya know i lurked this b4 i really started posted daily back in october but i'm sick of all these posts were ppl can't you the search feature and notice there are already how many threads on this subject! i can only imagine how you ppl who have been on here for yrs feel?!

I'm not saying that a person with ADHD should try it. The opposite, I'm saying that I don't think it is responsible to try it!

However, if one has tried and was soothed by it, check if you have ADHD and ask for a diagnose by a professional. If you have ADHD, make sure you only take medicine under specialized medical supervision. Not you'r local dealer.

I do hope I made that clear. So, don't try it, just to see if you have ADHD. Go to a professional for a diagnose.

dJJ said:

purplemookiebut said:

really? i have heard certain drugs affect ppl with ADHD different.our chemical levels in are brain are different. Coke would soothe me? still no desire to try it ever though

ya know i lurked this b4 i really started posted daily back in october but i'm sick of all these posts were ppl can't you the search feature and notice there are already how many threads on this subject! i can only imagine how you ppl who have been on here for yrs feel?!

I'm not saying that a person with ADHD should try it. The opposite, I'm saying that I don't think it is responsible to try it!

However, if one has tried and was soothed by it, check if you have ADHD and ask for a diagnose by a professional. If you have ADHD, make sure you only take medicine under specialized medical supervision. Not you'r local dealer.

I do hope I made that clear. So, don't try it, just to see if you have ADHD. Go to a professional for a diagnose.

i was diagnosed in 2nd grade with ADHD and i took ritalin till i graduated high school. caffiehne doesn't work for me.or it's just weird. i had 4 red bulls once but nuthing. but i had one stay awake pill and it was giving me heart palps. yesterday i had a cappuccino at the olive garden and nearly had a anxiety attack but i think that's also cause i was arguing with my mom,and aunt who said not to go walk the mall across the street to walk off all that filling food.i was having a bad dizzy spell and my heart started racing..i was that close to the mall dammit!!!!.felt different from a anxiety attack though........well i was kinda extra talkative as if how i get if i was a bit drunk ...but then i had 2 more dunkin donut coffee's later during the grammys cause it was the last day of the coupons expiring...i was yawning alot with the dunkin donuts iced coffee. their turbo ice coffee can do make me hyper the first few times..not anymore

no i haven't had any since the one time in september with my stepcousin. b4 that not since june of 2009. my stepcousin just posted he's been totally clean 5 months now and won't ever go back.......

[Edited 2/14/11 16:38pm]

dawnboy999 said:

All this talk about how normal you can be on coke is nonsense. Any fool knows that every person has a different reaction to drugs whether it be weed or cocaine or a fifth of scotch. Cocaine can make some people very paranoid and turn them into rambling idiots.According to the story I heard it would make Prince seem wacked out of his mind. This is not a judgement on my part it just also makes sense in that Prince would have endless energy in his live performances yet could seem almost lifeless in recorded interviews.

That's hearsay. You don't have facts to back it up.

http://dictionary.referen...se/hearsay

My goodness

dJJ said:

paisleypark4 said:

I have been around people high on coke and act normal...even fall asleep...

That's a pretty reliable indicator of ADHD. They fall asleep because for them a small amount of coke is soothing.

Self medicating is irresponsible.

self medicating and drugs interacting is what killed heath ledger

V10LETBLUES said:

Here is your video evidence.

oops!

I meant this one.

As Prince has said in Purple Music "Don't need no weefer, don't need cocaine, Purple Music does the same to my brain, I'm high!"

Prince gets high on his own music. Why do you think Vanity was bounced? Coke!

Why was Morris bounced and The Time disbanded? Coke!

Big Chick? Coke!

Prince has admitted to drinking, but he hasn't done drugs like Coke. He would have coked his way through Paisley Park and selling all he had to feed his habit had he done coke. Ask Rick James, El Debarge, when that monster gets a hold of you, it's eats you alive and everyone can see it except the addict.

I do believe that he has tried X and realized that it could be just as bad the "White Horse" and that's why he had the cleansing/rebirth in 1988. "The reason why my voice is so clear, cuz there's no smack in my brain!"

joyinrepetition said:

As Prince has said in Purple Music "Don't need no weefer, don't need cocaine, Purple Music does the same to my brain, I'm high!"

Prince gets high on his own music. Why do you think Vanity was bounced? Coke!

Why was Morris bounced and The Time disbanded? Coke!

Big Chick? Coke!

Prince has admitted to drinking, but he hasn't done drugs like Coke. He would have coked his way through Paisley Park and selling all he had to feed his habit had he done coke. Ask Rick James, El Debarge, when that monster gets a hold of you, it's eats you alive and everyone can see it except the addict.

I do believe that he has tried X and realized that it could be just as bad the "White Horse" and that's why he had the cleansing/rebirth in 1988. "The reason why my voice is so clear, cuz there's no smack in my brain!"

so are you his siamese twin covered by harry potter's invisiability cloak?

dawnboy999 said:

While I don't know what his situation is now this what I heard from my younger sister. While Prince lived in Toronto when he was married to Manny a close friend of my sister was a player in the music scene here and would frequent Princes parties on Torontos mansion row which is known as the Bridal Path.When my sister asked him what it was like having conversations with Prince he responded that it was impossible to speak with him cause he was always on cocaine.You can take that how you like but there is a lot of video evidence through the years that would support my sisters freind story. Personally I don't think it's a big deal he is a rock star after all but a lot of Prince fans like to idealize him and refuse to beleive otherwise.

Such bs, people love running their mouth talking about shit they "know" for sure but don't have an ounce of evidence to back it up. Prince is a celeb, if he were on drugs, somebody would have released pics by now. Just like all the other rumors about him. Where is the evidence? It pops up on everybody else, but not P? BS!

Yes. He did drugs.
What are drugs in your opinion? (views may differ...)

So what?

laurarichardson said:

vitriol said:

Oh, really.

That must be the reason why the Stones only made a couple of albums and only toured twice.

Well by all accounts the only Stone that was really strung out was Keith. The Stones are a band with other members who can pick up the fucking slack. P is a one man operation. If he goes off on a bender he does not have permenent band members to pick up the slack.

I think you need to stop advocating drug use and think about all the performers who are not longer around because of drugs.

Sorry Laura, but that's not strictly true - Keith just had the largest reputation for it because he was the "monster" drug taker, that's all. The rest of the band were all "experienced" with drugs, just not on Keith's level. And, as one of the biggest known drug-takers in the industry, he's still here and still playing (oh, a bit like David Bowie, and Paul Macartney and so on)

Can you tell us about "all the performers" we've lost due to drugs? (Janis Joplin springs to mind) Its certainly not as many as you and others might think and becomes almost insignificant when compared to the list of people we've lost through alcohol. (Jimi Hendrix, Jon Bonham, Jim Morrison etc etc).

And why don't we think about all the great music that has been made by drug-takers? 95% of albums on your regular Top 100 albums ever are by people who took drugs - it is no coincidence. And far from advocating drug-taking, its up to the individual to decide what to do with their life and not for others to judge, particularly those who have no idea what they are talking about. If you haven't taken drugs, then you can't seriously comment on it. You can tell easily those that haven't, because they live in the propoganda-led world where everyone who takes drugs is an ass, a demon incapable of any form of control and unknowingly wrecking their life. The reality is much different. Not everyone who drinks alcohol has a problem with it or becomes dependent. Same with drugs, you don't instantly become an addict or necessarily endanger yourselves or others just because you indulge in a substance every now and again.

Some here just have no balance or perspective.