Good points. And it goes back to the cluse you picked up on. As long as Prince can show that the show was cancled for any reason--however slight-- than his own, Prince wins.
But like I said I doubt it will go to court.
I doubt it will go to court either because the potential public relations fallout for the performers and the foundation is too great. There are a lot of conflicting statements out there and they can't all be true. If Prince really was sitting in the limo waiting for his money, that is not the kind of story he wants to come out right now. But that doesn't mean someone won't file a lawsuit.
i am thinking they will SOON be announcing a pair of make up shows. Prince loves dallas! I bet he makes good on this!
Since $3000 of that money is mine, I'd rather have it go to charities of my choice.
You know I forgot, but I saw the break down of what was considered to be a charitable deduction and it was a small portion of the ticket price. Commonly it is not what goes to the charity but the cost - the FMV.
Sure. If I had seen a Prince concert, I'd have no problem with most of the money going to him. He puts on a great show and deserves to get paid well for it. But I didn't get to see Prince and I'm still waiting on my refund...
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"No one is at fault. The only fault anybody had was that nobody wanted to stop moving forward and try to get it done."
One of those unfortunate things that no one can control. The Event just had to happen, until, well, it didn't.
If this goes to court (I doubt it will) that statement may cost Mr Arnold $1.5 Million.
I hope they will come up with a show or 2 to make up for this. Maybe a ritzy show (much lower prices) and then a normal show at the AA center.
According to the contract Prince was to have already received the balance of the money "no later than Feb. 3, 2011". Which should mean that Prince already got his 1.5 million or he could, rightlfully should and more likely than not would have cancelled on Feb. 3, 2011.
Supposedly...as stated by Prince's "people", the event was finally cancelled because "the organizers couldn't bring Prince to Dallas". Though his travel expenses according to the contract...were $100,000.
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
I doubt it will go to court either because the potential public relations fallout for the performers and the foundation is too great. There are a lot of conflicting statements out there and they can't all be true. If Prince really was sitting in the limo waiting for his money, that is not the kind of story he wants to come out right now. But that doesn't mean someone won't file a lawsuit.
i am thinking they will SOON be announcing a pair of make up shows. Prince loves dallas! I bet he makes good on this!
Sounds good to me, but I heard he was heading to LA next. How do you know that Prince loves Dallas?
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If this goes to court (I doubt it will) that statement may cost Mr Arnold $1.5 Million.
I hope they will come up with a show or 2 to make up for this. Maybe a ritzy show (much lower prices) and then a normal show at the AA center.
According to the contract Prince was to have already received the balance of the money "no later than Feb. 3, 2011". Which should mean that Prince already got his 1.5 million or he could, rightlfully should and more likely than not would have cancelled on Feb. 3, 2011.
Supposedly...as stated by Prince's "people", the event was finally cancelled because "the organizers couldn't bring Prince to Dallas". Though his travel expenses according to the contract...were $100,000.
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I read that statement as deliberately ambiguous. It could mean that they literally couldn't bring the man in a plane to Dallas the physical place called Dallas. But it could also mean that they couldn't bring the experience of Prince and his music to the people of Dallas (even though he physically made it to the city).
The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach.
According to the contract Prince was to have already received the balance of the money "no later than Feb. 3, 2011". Which should mean that Prince already got his 1.5 million or he could, rightlfully should and more likely than not would have cancelled on Feb. 3, 2011.
Supposedly...as stated by Prince's "people", the event was finally cancelled because "the organizers couldn't bring Prince to Dallas". Though his travel expenses according to the contract...were $100,000.
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I read that statement as deliberately ambiguous. It could mean that they literally couldn't bring the man in a plane to Dallas the physical place called Dallas. But it could also mean that they couldn't bring the experience of Prince and his music to the people of Dallas (even though he physically made it to the city).
...or it could mean that he made it to the city of Addison where the hotel was located and not the city of Dallas.
The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach.
If this goes to court (I doubt it will) that statement may cost Mr Arnold $1.5 Million.
I hope they will come up with a show or 2 to make up for this. Maybe a ritzy show (much lower prices) and then a normal show at the AA center.
According to the contract Prince was to have already received the balance of the money "no later than Feb. 3, 2011". Which should mean that Prince already got his 1.5 million or he could, rightlfully should and more likely than not would have cancelled on Feb. 3, 2011.
Supposedly...as stated by Prince's "people", the event was finally cancelled because "the organizers couldn't bring Prince to Dallas". Though his travel expenses according to the contract...were $100,000.
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Remember that the version posted on the website wasn't signed. Those dates may have changed.
The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach.
I read that statement as deliberately ambiguous. It could mean that they literally couldn't bring the man in a plane to Dallas the physical place called Dallas. But it could also mean that they couldn't bring the experience of Prince and his music to the people of Dallas (even though he physically made it to the city).
...or it could mean that he made it to the city of Addison where the hotel was located and not the city of Dallas.
Deliberately ambiguous, indeed. Though, if it can be proven that Prince put his feet down. really anywhere in the state of Texas, as was repeatedly reported. At the expense of the organizers, it becomes a mute point, anyway.
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
...or it could mean that he made it to the city of Addison where the hotel was located and not the city of Dallas.
Deliberately ambiguous, indeed. Though, if it can be proven that Prince put his feet down. really anywhere in the state of Texas, as was repeatedly reported. At the expense of the organizers, it becomes a mute point, anyway.
There were reports just prior to the concert that he was staying at the Omni in Fort Worth. I wondered why he would have been on the other side of the Metroplex from where the concert was being held. But you're right; if we're talking about public opinion here, whether he was in one part of town or another isn't the point.
Now let me take a break to hear what Pharaoh Mubarak has to say.
The Census Bureau estimates that there are 2,518 American Indians and Alaska Natives currently living in the city of Long Beach.
According to the contract Prince was to have already received the balance of the money "no later than Feb. 3, 2011". Which should mean that Prince already got his 1.5 million or he could, rightlfully should and more likely than not would have cancelled on Feb. 3, 2011.
Supposedly...as stated by Prince's "people", the event was finally cancelled because "the organizers couldn't bring Prince to Dallas". Though his travel expenses according to the contract...were $100,000.
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Remember that the version posted on the website wasn't signed. Those dates may have changed.
That's another very interesting factor. It wasn't supposed to be signed by Prince. The missing signature belongs to someone that hasn't been mention at all, in any of this.
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
Remember that the version posted on the website wasn't signed. Those dates may have changed.
That's another very interesting factor. It wasn't supposed to be signed by Prince. The missing signature belongs to someone that hasn't been mention at all, in any of this.
Interesting that Prince's agent is based here in the UK, her name rings a bell....hmmm
Yes. I'm guessing she was not too familiar with Chris Arnold and the River Alexander Group. The contract looks like a great deal for Prince, financially. From a public relations standpoint I don't think this was what Prince was looking for.
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so really...he wasn't getting paid for this gig. He just donated 1.5 mil to some local art schools and it's the same amount as this contract. No wonder he's trying to get his expenses paid...just wants to break even.
so really...he wasn't getting paid for this gig. He just donated 1.5 mil to some local art schools and it's the same amount as this contract. No wonder he's trying to get his expenses paid...just wants to break even.
I guess he's the modern-day Robin Hood. Stealing from the rich and giving to the poor.
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Whose to say Prince got paid at all. We can see what the contract says, but that doesn't necessarily mean that money changed hands. So maybe Prince didn't play because they never put any money forth at all.
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Whose to say Prince got paid at all. We can see what the contract says, but that doesn't necessarily mean that money changed hands. So maybe Prince didn't play because they never put any money forth at all.
Great question! I'd love to know whether he got paid and how much. If he didn't get his half up front, why wasn't the concert cancelled a month beforehand?
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It appears that the organizers couldn't cancel the event. Had they...they'd have still been obligated to pay Prince...in full...and any deposits already paid to Prince would have been forfeited. So it appears that the only one that could cancel was Prince himself.
Good point. I did read the contract and have a few other comments in the main thread:
Instead of an artist gving his time for free (or at cost), like many charity gigs, Prince charges $1.5M, and has lawyers set it up that the charity is fucked over if something goes wrong.
Seem like the Purple Yoda has learned since Dublin.
Instead of an artist gving his time for free (or at cost), like many charity gigs, Prince charges $1.5M, and has lawyers set it up that the charity is fucked over if something goes wrong.
Seem like the Purple Yoda has learned since Dublin.
I don't consider a measly 10% donation a 'charity gig'. Again, EVERYONE else wanted to get paid, the hotel sure wasn't giving their space up and employees for free, why in the fuck shouldn't Prince get paid too? Y'all act like it's just him, you know he has employees he has to pay too.
I haven't read the other thread yet, but how do you know P's lawyers drew up that contract? I would guess that the organizers created it and then they'd work out details from there. And I'd think that Badu's would have had the same general terminology too.
Instead of an artist gving his time for free (or at cost), like many charity gigs, Prince charges $1.5M, and has lawyers set it up that the charity is fucked over if something goes wrong.
Seem like the Purple Yoda has learned since Dublin.
I don't consider a measly 10% donation a 'charity gig'. Again, EVERYONE else wanted to get paid, the hotel sure wasn't giving their space up and employees for free, why in the fuck shouldn't Prince get paid too? Y'all act like it's just him, you know he has employees he has to pay too.
Because he didn't perform?
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I don't consider a measly 10% donation a 'charity gig'. Again, EVERYONE else wanted to get paid, the hotel sure wasn't giving their space up and employees for free, why in the fuck shouldn't Prince get paid too? Y'all act like it's just him, you know he has employees he has to pay too.
Because he didn't perform?
That doesn't even make sense, I'm saying why shouldn't he get paid if the show had gone on. People are complaining about how much he was to be paid.
That doesn't even make sense, I'm saying why shouldn't he get paid if the show had gone on. People are complaining about how much he was to be paid.
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If the show had gone on, then he should have been paid in my opinion. I would have been a happy camper if Prince had treated us to any kind of performance that night. Even if he had just shown up, at least I could have gotten his autograph. But we've now learned that, according to his contract, he was entitled to his money whether he performed or not, as long as the cancellation wasn't solely his fault. Did he actually get any money? Inquiring minds want to know.
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That doesn't even make sense, I'm saying why shouldn't he get paid if the show had gone on. People are complaining about how much he was to be paid.
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If the show had gone on, then he should have been paid in my opinion. I would have been a happy camper if Prince had treated us to any kind of performance that night. Even if he had just shown up, at least I could have gotten his autograph. But we've now learned that, according to his contract, he was entitled to his money whether he performed or not, as long as the cancellation wasn't solely his fault. Did he actually get any money? Inquiring minds want to know.
Ok, you're either new or joking, because that WOULD NOT happen.
If the show had gone on, then he should have been paid in my opinion. I would have been a happy camper if Prince had treated us to any kind of performance that night. Even if he had just shown up, at least I could have gotten his autograph. But we've now learned that, according to his contract, he was entitled to his money whether he performed or not, as long as the cancellation wasn't solely his fault. Did he actually get any money? Inquiring minds want to know.
Ok, you're either new or joking, because that WOULD NOT happen.
Both, I guess. But I did have my Around the World in a Day CD booklet and a Sharpie in my pocket just in case I caught him in the parking lot.
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Ok, you're either new or joking, because that WOULD NOT happen.
Both, I guess. But I did have my Around the World in a Day CD booklet and a Sharpie in my pocket just in case I caught him in the parking lot.
Well, it's a nice wish, but he hasn't signed autographs for years. Unfortunately, my son got ripped off when he bought an 'autographed' guitar off of eBay as a gift for me. I knew it was a fake by the description, but didn't have the heart to tell him. I was going to go after the seller, but they disappeared before I could take action.
Both, I guess. But I did have my Around the World in a Day CD booklet and a Sharpie in my pocket just in case I caught him in the parking lot.
Well, it's a nice wish, but he hasn't signed autographs for years. Unfortunately, my son got ripped off when he bought an 'autographed' guitar off of eBay as a gift for me. I knew it was a fake by the description, but didn't have the heart to tell him. I was going to go after the seller, but they disappeared before I could take action.
I figured I didn't have much of a chance, but I didn't want to come unprepared, since it was an unusual type of concert and I didn't know what to expect. Sorry to hear about your son's experience on eBay.
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Though, if it can be proven that Prince put his feet down. really anywhere in the state of Texas, as was repeatedly reported. At the expense of the organizers, it becomes a mute point, anyway. 
i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol 
I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. 
no one tops prince in concert!
