silkylee said:

Sometimes it's frustrating to see how blind & ignorant people are.

The powers that be have done a remarkable job programming us.

When you bring up conspiracy. The public is programed to call you

I know it's not in the government's DNA to do anything unjust to the public.

In 1763 THEY would never give SMALLPOX to native Americans, or in 1932 give SYPHILIS to

the Tuskegee Airmen.

You may want to double-check:

(1) your date on the smallpox (you're off by several generations);

(2) the ID of the actual victims of th syphillis "experiments" (it wasn't the airmen, but another unfortunate group); and

(3) whether a unit of airmen organized on-the-fly (pardon the pun) as part of the US mobilization for WWII could have existed 9 years before Pearl Harbor.

babynoz said:

Blackmuse said:

Actually. here in tenafly new jersey they do teach about the articles... Considering i went there ..

They taught it in Philadelphia schools at the time also...and I am almost Prince's age as well.

Anyhoo, I didn't find anything unusual about what Prince said because I'm used to the way he communicates. His statements frequently come out awkward but I normally get what he's driving at. I cringe because I know that most people will be like,

Besides, I found Tavis to be far more creepy in that interview than Prince. All the groveling and bowing and scraping was weird.

Well said

jpnyc said:

TrevorAyer said:

every time prince says something intelligent factual and based in reality, some programmed dipshit labels him a conspiracy theory nut.

You’re right. His belief that there is a conspiracy to put chemi...ver cities is utterly factual and believeable and it is wrong for us to assume he’s just plain crazy. Likewise it is utterly ridculous to question Prince’s belief that he was kept from knowing about the history of America under the Articles of the Confederation despite the fact that said articles were republished and written a...€™s birth.

Regardless of yours or my personal belief regarding chemicals we are exposed to in our food water and air constantly, for you to simply cast off any information that questions your current beliefs is pure ignorance.

Genesia said:

Prince could have become a student of history... Nobody locked his ass out of the history section of the library.

Blackmuse said:

And everyone gave him heat and said wtf are you talking about and that he needed to check his facts...

I don't remember it like that. I remember, like now, people saying "So what Prince, it might be news to you, but it ain't to me".

Blackmuse said:

And everyone gave him heat and said wtf are you talking about and that he needed to check his facts... An educated American would know that under the articles of confederation there were 8 presidents. All of these preceded GW. Educated Americans would know this but instead far too many criticized prince and basically called him an idiot. Check your facts before foolishly ridiculing our man. I'm just a lurker but this always bothered me. Sorry if I come across rude

Check out Wikipedia on this one http://en.wikipedia.org/w...federation

Scroll down to "Presidents to the Congress". Prince was right both technically these

Presidents weren't considered executive branch presidents but presided over Congress.

The point I think Prince made is this is a very complex country with interesting beginnings.

sherides4mother said:

Blackmuse said:

And everyone gave him heat and said wtf are you talking about and that he needed to check his facts... An educated American would know that under the articles of confederation there were 8 presidents. All of these preceded GW. Educated Americans would know this but instead far too many criticized prince and basically called him an idiot. Check your facts before foolishly ridiculing our man. I'm just a lurker but this always bothered me. Sorry if I come across rude

Check out Wikipedia on this one http://en.wikipedia.org/w...federation

Scroll down to "Presidents to the Congress". Prince was right both technically these

Presidents weren't considered executive branch presidents but presided over Congress.

The point I think Prince made is this is a very complex country with interesting beginnings.

No. The point Prince was trying to make was that there was some sort of conspiracy to cover-up certain parts of history in schools.

pald1 said:

IamFunkay7 said:

You're gonna have to give us examples of how "the powers that be have done a remarkable job programming us"?

Otherwise, you're just typing.

Google MK-Ultra.

Martin Luther King JR's family was targeted by the Army as far back as 1917.http://www.commercialappe...tched-him/ but people think that a racist White man killed him.

You are programed to believe all kinds of things from what you buy to what you eat. Just it's not some SciFi shit doesn't mean that its not happening.

muleFunk said:

pald1 said:

You're gonna have to give us examples of how "the powers that be have done a remarkable job programming us"?

Otherwise, you're just typing.

Google MK-Ultra.

Martin Luther King JR's family was targeted by the Army as far back as 1917.http://www.commercialappe...tched-him/ but people think that a racist White man killed him.

You are programed to believe all kinds of things from what you buy to what you eat. Just it's not some SciFi shit doesn't mean that its not happening.

"They're coming to get you, Baaaarbra!?

You can do better than that, can't you?

pald1 said:

muleFunk said:

Google MK-Ultra.

Martin Luther King JR's family was targeted by the Army as far back as 1917.http://www.commercialappe...tched-him/ but people think that a racist White man killed him.

You are programed to believe all kinds of things from what you buy to what you eat. Just it's not some SciFi shit doesn't mean that its not happening.

"They're coming to get you, Baaaarbra!?

You can do better than that, can't you?

http://www.thefixisin.net/

http://www.newworldorderr...These.aspx

OneMoJam said:

You may want to double-check:

(1) your date on the smallpox (you're off by several generations);

(2) the ID of the actual victims of th syphillis "experiments" (it wasn't the airmen, but another unfortunate group); and

(3) whether a unit of airmen organized on-the-fly (pardon the pun) as part of the US mobilization for WWII could have existed 9 years before Pearl Harbor.

The U.S. Public Heath Service performed a GENOCIDE of African Americans, documented from

1932, that was leaked out in 1972.

Black men were deliberately infected with SYPHILIS by the U.S. government.

They obtained no treatment for the disease.

This was called THE TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

Basically the U.S. government used black people as human guinea pigs to see how long it takes

SYPHILIS to KILL black people.

During this GENOCIDE African American men, women, and children, were infected with SYPHILIS.

In 1997 President Bill Clinton apoligized for the U.S. Public Heath Service's TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

SYPHILIS = Tumors, Heart disease, Paralysis, Blindness, Insanity, and DEATH.

But there's no conspiracies.

silkylee said:

OneMoJam said:

You may want to double-check:

(1) your date on the smallpox (you're off by several generations);

(2) the ID of the actual victims of th syphillis "experiments" (it wasn't the airmen, but another unfortunate group); and

(3) whether a unit of airmen organized on-the-fly (pardon the pun) as part of the US mobilization for WWII could have existed 9 years before Pearl Harbor.

The U.S. Public Heath Service performed a GENOCIDE of African Americans, documented from

1932, that was leaked out in 1972.

Black men were deliberately infected with SYPHILIS by the U.S. government.

They obtained no treatment for the disease.

This was called THE TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

Basically the U.S. government used black people as human guinea pigs to see how long it takes

SYPHILIS to KILL black people.

During this GENOCIDE African American men, women, and children, were infected with SYPHILIS.

In 1997 President Bill Clinton apoligized for the U.S. Public Heath Service's TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

SYPHILIS = Tumors, Heart disease, Paralysis, Blindness, Insanity, and DEATH.

But there's no conspiracies.

Isolated incidents now the public domain.

[Edited 2/7/11 9:38am]

muleFunk said:

pald1 said:

"They're coming to get you, Baaaarbra!?

You can do better than that, can't you?

http://www.thefixisin.net/

http://www.newworldorderr...These.aspx

A referral to to two wacko conspiracy websites. Not exactly the BBC but I guess you can't have everything. Thanks. Keep up the good work. To the extent that any of the stuff mentioned is true (American sports...jesus), I still fail to see how I've been programmed .

I repeat my question.

Blackmuse said:

In the south they don't teach about slavery.

BULL$HIT

[Edited 2/7/11 11:40am]

babynoz said: Besides, I found Tavis to be far more creepy in that interview than Prince. All the groveling and bowing and scraping was weird.

Tavis was a total embarrassment in that "interview". At no point did he even mildly challenge Prince's absurd statements. He showed zero journalistic integrity.

The thing about Prince is that he's one of those individuals who is suckered in by what's advertised as 'secret' or 'priviledged' information. He reacts like he's discovered the Holy Grail and is now bathed in The Truth and we all need to learn about this. Fact is he's gullible as hell and has been taken for a ride. Take a good look and listen to Larry Graham. Anyone with a modicum of discernment can smell that guy from a mile away. Total CHARLATAN. Yet Prince swallows Larry's BS hook, line, and sinker. Pitiful.

pald1 said:

muleFunk said:

http://www.thefixisin.net/

http://www.newworldorderr...These.aspx

A referral to to two wacko conspiracy websites. Not exactly the BBC but I guess you can't have everything. Thanks. Keep up the good work. To the extent that any of the stuff mentioned is true (American sports...jesus), I still fail to see how I've been programmed .

I repeat my question.

Are you an American?

If you are not you don't really understand the full nature of what I have been trying to educate you with.

People believe what they want you to believe and when you start to question their paradigm they get defensive.

The 33 Conspiracies that turned out to be true are an example. The American government under the guise of the FBI refused to admit that a Mafia existed until after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.

As a result millions of people believed the "great lie" that there was no nationwide organized criminal syndicate.

That's how you are programmed.

Google MK Ultra .

This was a fully sanctioned government program that involved changing behavior patterns. This lasted from WWII until the early 1970's. When the program was discovered after Watergate then CIA Director George H Bush had the documents destroyed to prevent Congress from seeing what they were doing.

Cult behaviors in America in the late 60's thru the 1990's also highlight some good examples of mind control. Charles Manson's Family and the Jim Jones Kool Aid trip come to mind here. Jim Jones's mass suicide has a National Security stamp on it with over 4 million pages of CIA documents still classified.

Shit that is just "crazy" would not be classified more than 30 years after it happened. People in America are trained just to accept these kindergarden answers as truth. When you dig further you realize that something unusual has occured and then the media calls you a "conspiracy theorist" for asking the question why.

muleFunk said:

Are you an American?

If you are not you don't really understand the full nature of what I have been trying to educate you with.

People believe what they want you to believe and when you start to question their paradigm they get defensive.

As a result millions of people believed the "great lie" that there was no nationwide organized criminal syndicate.

That's how you are programmed.

Google MK Ultra .

This was a fully sanctioned government program that involved changing behavior patterns. This lasted from WWII until the early 1970's. When the program was discovered after Watergate then CIA Director George H Bush had the documents destroyed to prevent Congress from seeing what they were doing.

Cult behaviors in America in the late 60's thru the 1990's also highlight some good examples of mind control. Charles Manson's Family and the Jim Jones Kool Aid trip come to mind here. Jim Jones's mass suicide has a National Security stamp on it with over 4 million pages of CIA documents still classified.

Shit that is just "crazy" would not be classified more than 30 years after it happened. People in America are trained just to accept these kindergarden answers as truth. When you dig further you realize that something unusual has occured and then the media calls you a "conspiracy theorist" for asking the question why.

YOU are the one who is programmed. Sad.

Manson and Jim Jones are a product of govt mind control? Yeah, a lot of proof of that.

NouveauDance said:

Blackmuse said:

And everyone gave him heat and said wtf are you talking about and that he needed to check his facts...

I don't remember it like that. I remember, like now, people saying "So what Prince, it might be news to you, but it ain't to me".

Spot on.

muleFunk said:

pald1 said:

A referral to to two wacko conspiracy websites. Not exactly the BBC but I guess you can't have everything. Thanks. Keep up the good work. To the extent that any of the stuff mentioned is true (American sports...jesus), I still fail to see how I've been programmed .

I repeat my question.

Are you an American?

If you are not you don't really understand the full nature of what I have been trying to educate you with.

People believe what they want you to believe and when you start to question their paradigm they get defensive.

The 33 Conspiracies that turned out to be true are an example. The American government under the guise of the FBI refused to admit that a Mafia existed until after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.

As a result millions of people believed the "great lie" that there was no nationwide organized criminal syndicate.

That's how you are programmed.

Google MK Ultra .

This was a fully sanctioned government program that involved changing behavior patterns. This lasted from WWII until the early 1970's. When the program was discovered after Watergate then CIA Director George H Bush had the documents destroyed to prevent Congress from seeing what they were doing.

Cult behaviors in America in the late 60's thru the 1990's also highlight some good examples of mind control. Charles Manson's Family and the Jim Jones Kool Aid trip come to mind here. Jim Jones's mass suicide has a National Security stamp on it with over 4 million pages of CIA documents still classified.

Shit that is just "crazy" would not be classified more than 30 years after it happened. People in America are trained just to accept these kindergarden answers as truth. When you dig further you realize that something unusual has occured and then the media calls you a "conspiracy theorist" for asking the question why.

Ok, you're tiring me out. Forget your bogus, revisionist, second-hand, word of mouth, paranoid version of history. Not what I'm interested in. Talk about now.

How. Am. I. Programmed?

Today.

Examples, please.

Give it to me live and direct.

When Prince mentioned there were 8 presidents before Washington.

The first thought came to mind was, WHAT THE FUCK!!!

The next day I started asking people at my job. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, & etc.

They thought I was crazy. Only a few knew.

I started researching myself, and found out the first president name was John Hansen.

A BLACK MAN!

Maybe thats the reason why it's not being taught?

Also heard president Thomas Jefferson mother was a Moor.

Guess Obama isn't the first black president.

silkylee said:

When Prince mentioned there were 8 presidents before Washington.

The first thought came to mind was, WHAT THE FUCK!!!

The next day I started asking people at my job. Lawyers, doctors, accountants, & etc.

They thought I was crazy. Only a few knew.

I started researching myself, and found out the first president name was John Hansen.

A BLACK MAN!

Maybe thats the reason why it's not being taught?

Also heard president Thomas Jefferson mother was a Moor.

Guess Obama isn't the first black president.

Give a hoot, read a book.

silkylee said:

OneMoJam said:

You may want to double-check:

(1) your date on the smallpox (you're off by several generations);

(2) the ID of the actual victims of th syphillis "experiments" (it wasn't the airmen, but another unfortunate group); and

(3) whether a unit of airmen organized on-the-fly (pardon the pun) as part of the US mobilization for WWII could have existed 9 years before Pearl Harbor.

The U.S. Public Heath Service performed a GENOCIDE of African Americans, documented from

1932, that was leaked out in 1972.

Black men were deliberately infected with SYPHILIS by the U.S. government.

They obtained no treatment for the disease.

This was called THE TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

Basically the U.S. government used black people as human guinea pigs to see how long it takes

SYPHILIS to KILL black people.

During this GENOCIDE African American men, women, and children, were infected with SYPHILIS.

In 1997 President Bill Clinton apoligized for the U.S. Public Heath Service's TUSKEGEE EXPERIMENT.

SYPHILIS = Tumors, Heart disease, Paralysis, Blindness, Insanity, and DEATH.

But there's no conspiracies.

The fact that it was called The Tuskegee Experiment does not mean (as you claimed) that the Tuskegee Airmen were subjects. They weren't.

Reading Is Fundamental.

And so are critical thinking skills.

Okay, we are lied to everyday by the government, and the businesses, and the television, and we have to know there are lies everywhere. Come on. Everyone believes a lie somewhere, whether that lie is intentional or not. Does it matter? Some lies may actually keep us safe, while others do tremendous harm. Life's a bitch in this department. All that we can do is survive, but we will never stop the lies.

BTW, Prince has told a few in his time as well.

Spinlight said:

deepabove said:

Much of the United States' history is not taught in schools. Smallpox blankets, anyone?

Imagine all the things going on from the Reagan years until now that certainly won't be taught.

And why is America named after Amerigo Vespucci if Columbus (ahem) "discovered" it?

Is this a history lesson or some bullshit? If you don't know the expanded history of the US, it's not the fault of the schools rather the fault of YOU. Knowledge is power.

Exactly, what was learned in school were the basics.

pald1 said:

muleFunk said:

Are you an American?

If you are not you don't really understand the full nature of what I have been trying to educate you with.

People believe what they want you to believe and when you start to question their paradigm they get defensive.

The 33 Conspiracies that turned out to be true are an example. The American government under the guise of the FBI refused to admit that a Mafia existed until after the death of J. Edgar Hoover.

As a result millions of people believed the "great lie" that there was no nationwide organized criminal syndicate.

That's how you are programmed.

Google MK Ultra .

This was a fully sanctioned government program that involved changing behavior patterns. This lasted from WWII until the early 1970's. When the program was discovered after Watergate then CIA Director George H Bush had the documents destroyed to prevent Congress from seeing what they were doing.

Cult behaviors in America in the late 60's thru the 1990's also highlight some good examples of mind control. Charles Manson's Family and the Jim Jones Kool Aid trip come to mind here. Jim Jones's mass suicide has a National Security stamp on it with over 4 million pages of CIA documents still classified.

Shit that is just "crazy" would not be classified more than 30 years after it happened. People in America are trained just to accept these kindergarden answers as truth. When you dig further you realize that something unusual has occured and then the media calls you a "conspiracy theorist" for asking the question why.

Ok, you're tiring me out. Forget your bogus, revisionist, second-hand, word of mouth, paranoid version of history. Not what I'm interested in. Talk about now.

How. Am. I. Programmed?

Today.

Examples, please.

Give it to me live and direct.

programming takes place in your school, history slanting wars we've fought, how they were started, instilling the idea that the only way to survive is to find your place in the system and be a slave. instilling the idea that our country is always right and justified in committing disgusting acts of murder daily.

all the media, tv, newspapers, radio owned by the same person, telling the same biased non investigative report with no research or verification. this has been used to justify to the programmed public that our constitution is irrelevant, that we can attack countries full of innocent people without good verified and valid cause.

we elect representatives based upon fear oriented programming, fake terror threats designed to boost the elite control over the masses with tsa screeners and unwarrented searches and wire tapping.

we are fed destructive chemicals in our food water and air constantly keeping the public sedated, stressed, distracted, sick, unable to think or stand up for our rights as humans, content to get sicker and sicker and die in a system designed to control and reduce the population.

you are programmed to accept your own oppression and to fear those who will not.

TrevorAyer said:

pald1 said:

Ok, you're tiring me out. Forget your bogus, revisionist, second-hand, word of mouth, paranoid version of history. Not what I'm interested in. Talk about now.

How. Am. I. Programmed?

Today.

Examples, please.

Give it to me live and direct.

programming takes place in your school, history slanting wars we've fought, how they were started, instilling the idea that the only way to survive is to find your place in the system and be a slave. instilling the idea that our country is always right and justified in committing disgusting acts of murder daily.

all the media, tv, newspapers, radio owned by the same person, telling the same biased non investigative report with no research or verification. this has been used to justify to the programmed public that our constitution is irrelevant, that we can attack countries full of innocent people without good verified and valid cause.

we elect representatives based upon fear oriented programming, fake terror threats designed to boost the elite control over the masses with tsa screeners and unwarrented searches and wire tapping.

we are fed destructive chemicals in our food water and air constantly keeping the public sedated, stressed, distracted, sick, unable to think or stand up for our rights as humans, content to get sicker and sicker and die in a system designed to control and reduce the population.

you are programmed to accept your own oppression and to fear those who will not.

Ok, so would you admit to be programmed, then?

...and, becasue you so know much about it, what's the conspiracy?

pald1 said:

TrevorAyer said:

programming takes place in your school, history slanting wars we've fought, how they were started, instilling the idea that the only way to survive is to find your place in the system and be a slave. instilling the idea that our country is always right and justified in committing disgusting acts of murder daily.

all the media, tv, newspapers, radio owned by the same person, telling the same biased non investigative report with no research or verification. this has been used to justify to the programmed public that our constitution is irrelevant, that we can attack countries full of innocent people without good verified and valid cause.

we elect representatives based upon fear oriented programming, fake terror threats designed to boost the elite control over the masses with tsa screeners and unwarrented searches and wire tapping.

we are fed destructive chemicals in our food water and air constantly keeping the public sedated, stressed, distracted, sick, unable to think or stand up for our rights as humans, content to get sicker and sicker and die in a system designed to control and reduce the population.

you are programmed to accept your own oppression and to fear those who will not.

Ok, so would you admit to be programmed, then?

...and, becasue you so know much about it, what's the conspiracy?

-Programming takes place in schools (you want people to learn the history of everything?)

-Be a slave (Obviously not good but also doesn't understand the psychological need from some who want to be told what to do - read Freud).

-Media outlets have few owners (certainly not one, though), and some are more powerful than others. But a bigger organization means bigger resources...otherwise, the only news we'd get would be local.

-The attacking countries with innocent people line is too vague. I can't answer.

-Fake terror threats. You have proof they're fake? Elites have to go through TSA screeners too!

-The food and water line has some merit but you lose the plot connecting it to keeping people sick.

So, in summary, if you just let your points speak for themselves you might have something. In many cases, these things are the way they are because we are an imperfect species, trying to survive modernity. Trying to survive. We're all different. Some of us are good, some bad. The world looks exactly as it does when it's run by such a species. You let yourself down when you try to connect all these points towards some overarching conspiracy to keep us down. We both know life isn't that clear-cut. C'mon, you seem smarter.

I dont recall saying anything about conspiracies .. tho i did respond to the "programming" topic contained within a post that contained conspiracy discussion .. i would agree we are all programmed on some level depending on what we are exposed to .. we also absorb and if our environment is saturated with messages to buy this or fear that or think this or get on this drug or eat this garbage or poison ur own kid with floride or whatever line of bs they wanna feed u .. then we absorb that too.

I think its important to realize that this sort of bombardment shapes how we think about things. The fake terrorism I refer to that is verified is that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There is plenty more blatent dishonesty out there but this everyone seems to agree is legit. As is the fact that bankers control the market, the laws and the economy to their benefit. And Medical errors and reaction to prescribed Pharmacuticals is the number one cause of death in the US. A majority of the drugs are designed to keep you purchasing the drug often for life. There are addatives in the food that cause addiction to junk foods. And medicines so that u can keep eating junk foods that are literally killing you. And we have doctors on TV recommending fast food diets and cosmetic surgery and deadly untested vaccines and the list goes on, while no one thinks to question any of it.

It is important to recognize the programming and unravel your thinking from it to see what is really there so that you can choose for yourself what is right for you. PS 9/11 was an inside job.

TrevorAyer said:

I dont recall saying anything about conspiracies .. tho i did respond to the "programming" topic contained within a post that contained conspiracy discussion .. i would agree we are all programmed on some level depending on what we are exposed to .. we also absorb and if our environment is saturated with messages to buy this or fear that or think this or get on this drug or eat this garbage or poison ur own kid with floride or whatever line of bs they wanna feed u .. then we absorb that too.

I think its important to realize that this sort of bombardment shapes how we think about things. The fake terrorism I refer to that is verified is that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. There is plenty more blatent dishonesty out there but this everyone seems to agree is legit. As is the fact that bankers control the market, the laws and the economy to their benefit. And Medical errors and reaction to prescribed Pharmacuticals is the number one cause of death in the US. A majority of the drugs are designed to keep you purchasing the drug often for life. There are addatives in the food that cause addiction to junk foods. And medicines so that u can keep eating junk foods that are literally killing you. And we have doctors on TV recommending fast food diets and cosmetic surgery and deadly untested vaccines and the list goes on, while no one thinks to question any of it.

It is important to recognize the programming and unravel your thinking from it to see what is really there so that you can choose for yourself what is right for you. PS 9/11 was an inside job.

Well, in that case. You really aren't saying anything new. Welcome to human nature.

It's a shame because I was kinda with you until your silly 9/11 postscript. Can I offer some advice? Please broaden your reading material and stay off the conspiracy websites. The evidence AGAINST it being an inside job is so overwhelming, no serious person doubts it. Yet, you guys still refuse to listen. I wonder why? Check out a new book called Voodoo Histories. It’s fun, smart, and sane, and takes a hard look at the last centuries most well-known conspiracies. In it there is a whole chapter that systematically rips apart every flimsy 9/11 debunk, and the nefarious people who perpetuate them. Even Noam Chomsky, no friend to the Bush administration and US military complex, scoffs at the debunkers. Why? Because they’re insane and ignore the facts.

Once again, you seem quite smart, why let yourself down by believing in bogus arguments. You're like a creationist refusing to believe in evolution. You can't factually explain why evolution is wrong (an impossible task) so you take the paranoid approach - it's a conspiracy/we’re all programmed etc etc.

oh come on i'm just having fun .. i suppose we just lean in different directions .. thanks fer thinkin i am smart n stuff .. everybody's got their own experts and yadda yadda .. think again if u can thats alls i'm sayin yo!