hollywooddove said:

Hell no. If this is a classic then we all have shortsighted views. Go back and listen to a classic, and you will quickly dismiss this song as any competition to the title.

well, this thread tries to establish if people consider Laydown as an instant classic, or not ...

hollywooddove said:

This entire album is like a ship that has no idea where it wants to port, so none of it's wind is favorable.

I couldn't disagree more

Marrk said:

Truth444 said:

I may be the only person who thinks this song is not all that.

I guess you don't read other responses before posting your own?

hollywooddove said:

Hell no. If this is a classic then we all have shortsighted views. And look, there can be no deep dissapointment where there is no deep love, and I have loved Prince's music through the years. This entire album is like a ship that has no idea where it wants to port, so none of it's wind is favorable. Prince needs a vision, then maybe he can execute something worth while. So classic, not in the least. Go back and listen to a classic, and you will quickly dismiss this song as any competition to the title.

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to. Is Laydown a classic, I don't know only time will tell. Stop comparing his new work to his old work. He has evolved just like everybody else. He is entitled write as he wishes. His new songs should be based on their own merit. Prince does have vision, his vision was 20Ten. Like it or not. His vision cannot be your vision. In my opinion, the cd is great and I love Laydown. It shows that he can still adapt and be current.

dbenders said:

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to.

I know, right? I'm sure you would never do anything like that. I'm sure you would never, ever express an opinion on a song, movie, book, or TV show until you had created each of those yourself.

dbenders said:

hollywooddove said:

Hell no. If this is a classic then we all have shortsighted views. And look, there can be no deep dissapointment where there is no deep love, and I have loved Prince's music through the years. This entire album is like a ship that has no idea where it wants to port, so none of it's wind is favorable. Prince needs a vision, then maybe he can execute something worth while. So classic, not in the least. Go back and listen to a classic, and you will quickly dismiss this song as any competition to the title.

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to.

Not to brag, but I probably could.

I quite like 20Ten but "Laydown" is one of my least favourite tracks on it. I don't dislike it but for me it is not an instant classic. I would pick "Sticky Like Glue," "Future Soul Song," "Lavaux" and "Walk In Sand" before "Laydown."

As others have pointed out it would be great if Prince played more of his "new" songs live (by "new" I mean anything post WB). I love the hits and the great album tracks from the '80s but maybe if he played some different songs live they would have a better chance of reaching the widest possible audience. Of course there are situations where he needs to play a show that is mostly the hits but he could drop some of the covers and try sneaking some of his own newer songs into his setlists. A smaller scale tour (theatres) that featured post WB material would be much appreciated.

Funky song- Yes

Classic- No

This isn't a Prince song you could play 20 years from now and be like "Oh yeah, this is the shit"!

Come on, people it's not like it's Bambi or something.

smoothcriminal12 said:

dbenders said:

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to.

Not to brag, but I probably could.

Do it and put it up on youtube. Double dare ya.

dbenders said:

hollywooddove said:

Hell no. If this is a classic then we all have shortsighted views. And look, there can be no deep dissapointment where there is no deep love, and I have loved Prince's music through the years. This entire album is like a ship that has no idea where it wants to port, so none of it's wind is favorable. Prince needs a vision, then maybe he can execute something worth while. So classic, not in the least. Go back and listen to a classic, and you will quickly dismiss this song as any competition to the title.

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to. Is Laydown a classic, I don't know only time will tell. Stop comparing his new work to his old work. He has evolved just like everybody else. He is entitled write as he wishes. His new songs should be based on their own merit. Prince does have vision, his vision was 20Ten. Like it or not. His vision cannot be your vision. In my opinion, the cd is great and I love Laydown. It shows that he can still adapt and be current.

I don't have to cut my dick off personally to know that the guy in the video getting his dick cut off is not likely having a comfortable time.

The Purple Yoda line is classic. Aside from that and the female vocal sample I can’t remember the rest of it. I would certainly have been happy to hear Prince play it when I saw him at MSG.

skywalker said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Not to brag, but I probably could.

Do it and put it up on youtube. Double dare ya.

As fun as that sounds...

[Edited 1/28/11 17:07pm]

dbenders said:

hollywooddove said:

Hell no. If this is a classic then we all have shortsighted views. And look, there can be no deep dissapointment where there is no deep love, and I have loved Prince's music through the years. This entire album is like a ship that has no idea where it wants to port, so none of it's wind is favorable. Prince needs a vision, then maybe he can execute something worth while. So classic, not in the least. Go back and listen to a classic, and you will quickly dismiss this song as any competition to the title.

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to. Is Laydown a classic, I don't know only time will tell. Stop comparing his new work to his old work. He has evolved just like everybody else. He is entitled write as he wishes. His new songs should be based on their own merit. Prince does have vision, his vision was 20Ten. Like it or not. His vision cannot be your vision. In my opinion, the cd is great and I love Laydown. It shows that he can still adapt and be current.

I don't have to be a rock star in order to consider whether or not a song is a collection that belongs deemed as a classic. Even Prince doesn't decide that, the public does, and it's a no brainer that the MUSIC, not his lyrics or his new found trust in God, that is not delivering. I like Laydown, but it is far from Prince's best. Time will tell? Time made no hesitation with Little Red Corvette. I'm not going to be so Prince blind that I would give a song credit that it has not the potential to be. One can not consider a song to be or not to be a classic from Prince WITHOUT drawing to his past work, because he has a remarkable catalog of classics, and in the stark truth of his talent, his present compostions are lazy and far from the genius of the original Prince that we are all used to.

Now, like it or not, you can't compare the originality, the emotion, and the soul full inspiration of a song like When Doves Cry with LayDown. I mean come on, you can't. Do you mean to tell me that you believe a man who can compose a song like that is really trying with a song like LayDown? You know better than that.

As far as vision? Well, I'm sorry. If this is his vision, he isn't shooting for the stars, he is simply exploiting the weakness of fools like me who rush out and buy every new album he cuts.

There is a thing called the artistic process, and through that you can judge an artists' present work based on his past, and evolution of a talent is not always an assention, sometimes it can be a detriment. I am not a musical artist, but I am an artist, and I have been recognized as one since the age of four, and I make a living at it now, so I am being no more critical of Prince than I would be of myself. As a matter, sometimes I observe some of current work and take notes on what not to do in many criteria.

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Efan said:

dbenders said:

I am really tired of people who could never compose, perform and produce a song let alone a good song even if they wanted to.

I know, right? I'm sure you would never do anything like that. I'm sure you would never, ever express an opinion on a song, movie, book, or TV show until you had created each of those yourself.

ROTFLOL!

I really think the song is awesome, but mostly because I love the women singing, and the part where he says "You can do it now come on, Boo".... Not the greatest, but definitely has something unique that keeps me coming back. Best song on the album, but not exceptional Prince material IMO.

No that song i liked for about 2 weeks and honestly I have not listened to it since. It was a good track on a terrible album which made it really stand out at the moment but faded FAST. I have not even had any desire to listen to it since.

My Vote -

NO CLASSIC

Marrk said:

Truth444 said:

I may be the only person who thinks this song is not all that.

I guess you don't read other responses before posting your own?

You got it.

Efan said:

Marrk said:

I guess you don't read other responses before posting your own?

I also hate to point this out, but 3121 doesn't have a single song on it that would be deemed a classic, but it is a much better album than 2010. Well, I'm ready to be trashed for that statement.

hollywooddove said:

I also hate to point this out, but 3121 doesn't have a single song on it that would be deemed a classic, but it is a much better album than 2010. Well, I'm ready to be trashed for that statement.

I don't know. "Black Sweat," and "Satisfied," could be some day.

hollywooddove said:

I also hate to point this out, but 3121 doesn't have a single song on it that would be deemed a classic, but it is a much better album than 2010. Well, I'm ready to be trashed for that statement.

The title track in my opinion is classic because I listened to it many many many many times. That's how I define classic, but outside of that I think the album had perfectly crafted songs on it including:

1. "3121" – 4:31
2. "Lolita" – 4:06
3. "Te Amo Corazón" – 3:35
4. "Black Sweat" – 3:12
5. "Love" – 5:45
6. "The Word" – 4:11
7. "Get On the Boat" – 6:18

On 20ten (with Compassion being the song I most gravitate towards repeat listens to) I could repeatedly listen to:

1. "Compassion" – 3:57
2. "Beginning Endlessly" – 5:27
3. "Future Soul Song" – 5:08
4. "Sticky Like Glue" – 4:46

A masterpiece can't wait to hear the long version of it......Hopefully it will be unveiled on the Welcum 2 America album......

I hope it doesn't show up on the Coming to America, or whatever the next album will be? I don't like a new Album filled with old songs, it seems like a waste of a track to me.

hollywooddove said:

I hope it doesn't show up on the Coming to America, or whatever the next album will be? I don't like a new Album filled with old songs, it seems like a waste of a track to me.

I agree. For so many years hearing how many songs he has in the vault and all the songs he is creating continuously, I would rather hear a new set of songs. That's what I didn't like about 3121... the dance. Yes, it's a nice song, but done already. And for me, a lot of songs that have been redone are not as good as the first version. That is what would concern me with all the old albums that have been re-recorded... I am worried that it won't be as good as the originals. Then again, they could be... but that's always a gamble one takes with Prince.

Truth444 said:

hollywooddove said:

I hope it doesn't show up on the Coming to America, or whatever the next album will be? I don't like a new Album filled with old songs, it seems like a waste of a track to me.

I agree. For so many years hearing how many songs he has in the vault and all the songs he is creating continuously, I would rather hear a new set of songs. That's what I didn't like about 3121... the dance. Yes, it's a nice song, but done already. And for me, a lot of songs that have been redone are not as good as the first version. That is what would concern me with all the old albums that have been re-recorded... I am worried that it won't be as good as the originals. Then again, they could be... but that's always a gamble one takes with Prince.

Eh, let's wait and see what we get first. He might do a 2 disc set with one disc featuring extended/alternate songs from 20Ten and another disc of all new songs. There's also a very good chance that he's already forgotten about the "deluxe" version of 20Ten and he may have moved on to something completely different.

For me the re-recording of "The Dance" on 3121 was worth it for the "it's just not fay-air, it's just not fay-air" scream at the end.

rialb said:

Truth444 said:

I agree. For so many years hearing how many songs he has in the vault and all the songs he is creating continuously, I would rather hear a new set of songs. That's what I didn't like about 3121... the dance. Yes, it's a nice song, but done already. And for me, a lot of songs that have been redone are not as good as the first version. That is what would concern me with all the old albums that have been re-recorded... I am worried that it won't be as good as the originals. Then again, they could be... but that's always a gamble one takes with Prince.

Eh, let's wait and see what we get first. He might do a 2 disc set with one disc featuring extended/alternate songs from 20Ten and another disc of all new songs. There's also a very good chance that he's already forgotten about the "deluxe" version of 20Ten and he may have moved on to something completely different.

For me the re-recording of "The Dance" on 3121 was worth it for the "it's just not fay-air, it's just not fay-air" scream at the end.

See, I never heard the original version of the the Dance, so the 3121 version is the only one that I know. I love that song. it's just not fay-air.

rialb said:

Truth444 said:

I agree. For so many years hearing how many songs he has in the vault and all the songs he is creating continuously, I would rather hear a new set of songs. That's what I didn't like about 3121... the dance. Yes, it's a nice song, but done already. And for me, a lot of songs that have been redone are not as good as the first version. That is what would concern me with all the old albums that have been re-recorded... I am worried that it won't be as good as the originals. Then again, they could be... but that's always a gamble one takes with Prince.

Eh, let's wait and see what we get first. He might do a 2 disc set with one disc featuring extended/alternate songs from 20Ten and another disc of all new songs. There's also a very good chance that he's already forgotten about the "deluxe" version of 20Ten and he may have moved on to something completely different.

For me the re-recording of "The Dance" on 3121 was worth it for the "it's just not fay-air, it's just not fay-air" scream at the end.

That's true, too. If he is still as prolific as he used to be, he's probably two or three albums ahead of 20Ten or any deluxe... just another one left to be found somewhere else down the line.

IstenSzek said:

NouveauDance said:

I don't consider it at all.

it's an ok track. i'd really like an extended version with some more musical ideas

and lyrics.

seriously, why still no 20Ten deluxe? shame. extended versions would be welcome

especially since the album is only like 40 min's

[Edited 1/29/11 10:31am]

a classic??..no never nada, all that bull shit of skipping like sixty odd non tracks to get to a lame version of we will rock you.. "WHY"?

I can't give it up for Laydown. It's a mega-dose of the bad Prince. Larry Graham approved replacement curse words? Check. Early 90's West Coat rap style? Check. Lame play it safe multi-instument solo by numbers? Check. Shaft style female backing vocals that are meant to be a bit funny, but really just annoy? Check. Song about absolutely nothing and by nothing I especially mean nothing sexy, or real? Check again. Bragging while being lame? Check. This one is not quite as cornball as "Sadomasichistic Groove", but still light years behind "She's Always In My Hair". Another strong example of how powerless and dry Prince's music sounds without Lisa Coleman.

funksterr said:

I can't give it up for Laydown. It's a mega-dose of the bad Prince. Larry Graham approved replacement curse words? Check. Early 90's West Coat rap style? Check. Lame play it safe multi-instument solo by numbers? Check. Shaft style female backing vocals that are meant to be a bit funny, but really just annoy? Check. Song about absolutely nothing and by nothing I especially mean nothing sexy, or real? Check again. Bragging while being lame? Check. This one is not quite as cornball as "Sadomasichistic Groove", but still light years behind "She's Always In My Hair". Another strong example of how powerless and dry Prince's music sounds without Lisa Coleman.

Wrong! Check