errant said:

squirrelgrease said:

The vinyl has 12 more seconds and it's related to the fadeout as far as I can tell. Orgnote sent.

to my ear, it sounds like the intro is repeated before his vocals come in. the instrumental intro is about 30 seconds on the original version, whereas the version that's on the album now it's only about 18 until he starts singing.

I just happened to check last night.

You're probably correct. The fadeout definitely starts sooner on the CD version as well, so it seems the mix or edit is completely different. Very strange considering CDs had enough room for this rather short LP.

squirrelgrease said:

dannyd5050 said:

So what is the difference between the vinyl cut and the CD? I only have the CD.

The vinyl has 12 more seconds and it's related to the fadeout as far as I can tell. Orgnote sent.

Thanks!

muirdo said:

There is a spelling error on the cover of the Batman Album picture disc.

Maybe Prince spell-checked it himself.

• The first Rave In2 The Joy Fantastic CD tray cards had "Rave Un2" erroneously printed on the spine.

• The promo version of the Musicology CD has a couple of Prince's fingers chopped off on the artwork.

• The first pressings of Newpower Soul had an incorrect track order per the artwork.

squirrelgrease said:

paisleypark4 said:

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HMMM

Yeah, definitely inspired by Blade Runner.

not just the look, if you listen to the music it's very similar to Purple Rains sound too, ESPECIALLY the piano

1) Some people ask what the meaning is of the backwards message at the end of Darling Nikki. "Hello, how are you? I'm fine cuz I know the lord is coming, coming soon." This was done at the time to poke fun at critics who suggested Prince's music contained backmasked messages depicting Satanic or other occult beliefs. The joke was that when those folks would go and reverse the message, they were greeted by someone saying that they indeed loved God.

2) Some newer fans might not know about the NPG All Stars. Levi Seacer Jr took over the role of President at NPG Records when he left the NPG touring/recording lineup. During this tenure, it was planned that Prince would undertake an NPG All Stars tour. This tour, in essence, would be similar to what ended up as the Newpower Soul Festival (not really much of a festival in the end, rather just 3 acts touring together). The idea never actually got off the ground, but it was presumed that the roster would include acts like George Clinton, Carmen Electra, The NPG, Madhouse, Mavis Staples, MPLS... Essentially, if you saw it on the 1800 New Funk album, it was intended to be on the NPG All Stars tour. Shortly after, this and all projects at the time involving Levi were canned when he was ousted from the camp for (allegedly) fucking one of Prince's girlfriends (Carmen Electra). As Miko learned previously, it ain't cool to fuck with Prince's women.

3) The song "Strange Way (Of Saying I Love U)" was written and recorded as the result of a spat between Lisa Coleman and Prince during the time they shared an apartment together early in Lisa's tenure in the band. Their fight ended up in Lisa leaving and Prince writing and recording the song by the time she returned. It was thought as being Prince's way of apologizing.

4) Robin Power (the very tall, built woman playing as Morris' girlfriend in Graffiti Bridge) didn't disappear after the film. She actually stuck around Paisley Park for a few years after doing mostly choreography for videos and performances.

5) Sources from the bootleg company that released them stated that the source for the City Lights soundboards and the Studio Nights outtakes was none other than Bobby "Z" Rivkin.

6) Michael Bland once described his tenure for Prince as being wildly unpredictable. Typically, they would be called in to lay tracks for songs only to never actually know of or hear about the songs again. One such example was "Baby Knows" whose drum track was recorded at least 3 years prior to its release and intended for a completely different song (what song it was intended for is unknown, but Michael Bland stated it was not "Baby Knows").

7) Songs known to have been recorded long before their release:

"Raspberry Beret" - Recorded 1982, released 1985

"We Can Funk" - Recorded 1983, released 1990

"The Question of U" - Recorded 1985, released 1990

"Can't Stop This Feeling I Got" - Recorded (originally) 1986, released 1990

"Strange Relationship" - Recorded 1982, released 1987

"Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic" - Recorded 1988, released 1999

"The Max" - Recorded 1988, released 1992

"The Dance" - Recorded 2003, released 2006

"Feel Better, Feel Good, Feel Wonderful" - Recorded 2003, released 2009

"Guitar" - Recorded 2003, released 2007

(This list only comprises songs which were actually demo'd several years prior to their release. Songs like "Baby I'm A Star" and "Purple Rain" do not have known studio versions though they were known to have been written several years prior to their release. This also does not include songs released as part of a compilation or The Black Album. This list is incomplete and just off the top of my head.)

8) The songs "Solo" and "Strays of the World" were intended for a musical. The story of the song "Solo" is here:

http://youoffendmeyouoffe...th-prince/

9) The song "When Doves Cry" was written about his relationship with Susan Moonsie, member of Vanity 6. Prince and Susan had been dating for several years by that point. "She's Just A Baby" was also written about her as well. Prince often dated more than one woman at a time and more than one coworker at a time. While dating Susan, Prince was also romantically linked with Jill Jones, Vanity, and Susannah Melvoin.

10) The original name for Prince's female side project before becoming Vanity 6 was: Vagina and the Hookers.

Spinlight said:

7) Songs known to have been recorded long before their release:

"The Dance" - Recorded 2003, released 2006

released in 2004, actually. I imagine the 3121 version was a re-recording mostly from scratch.

errant said:

Spinlight said:

7) Songs known to have been recorded long before their release:

"The Dance" - Recorded 2003, released 2006

released in 2004, actually. I imagine the 3121 version was a re-recording mostly from scratch.

That's right, I forgot it was an NPGMC track as well.

several songs on the symbol album have some background noises. If you listen thru headphones you can clearly hear them... If I just could remember which songs... Guess I have to listen to it again...

Spinlight said:

5) Snipped.

Perhaps this was an ill-timed little tidbit to post considering what has recently come to pass. I appreciate that you made some relatively obscure information available for those that didn't know these things, but maybe this particular bullet point was in poor taste - at least right now.

squirrelgrease said:

Spinlight said:

5) Snipped.

Perhaps this was an ill-timed little tidbit to post considering what has recently come to pass. I appreciate that you made some relatively obscure information available for those that didn't know these things, but maybe this particular bullet point was in poor taste - at least right now.

Speaking of, I once was told that this is the same reason Boni was fired from the band.

squirrelgrease said:

Spinlight said:

5) Snipped.

Perhaps this was an ill-timed little tidbit to post considering what has recently come to pass. I appreciate that you made some relatively obscure information available for those that didn't know these things, but maybe this particular bullet point was in poor taste - at least right now.

Certainly wasn't intended that way! Big ups to Bobby Z.

errant said:

squirrelgrease said:

Perhaps this was an ill-timed little tidbit to post considering what has recently come to pass. I appreciate that you made some relatively obscure information available for those that didn't know these things, but maybe this particular bullet point was in poor taste - at least right now.

Speaking of, I once was told that this is the same reason Boni was fired from the band.

I hadn't heard that before.

Spinlight said:

squirrelgrease said:

Perhaps this was an ill-timed little tidbit to post considering what has recently come to pass. I appreciate that you made some relatively obscure information available for those that didn't know these things, but maybe this particular bullet point was in poor taste - at least right now.

Certainly wasn't intended that way! Big ups to Bobby Z.

Maybe I'm over reacting. [img:$uid]http://www.emuasylum.com/forums/images/smilies/dontknow.gif[/img:$uid]

When I'm rollin in my ride, blasting POPLIFE.

When all of a sudden the music stops. You hear yelling, and booing, and throw the bum out.

It fucks up the flow of the song. I always turn down the volume during that part of the song.

They say that's audio from the rolling stones concert of Prince geting booed off stage.

When you groovin at a party, you stop dancing when that part comes up.

silkylee said:

When I'm rollin in my ride, blasting POPLIFE.

When all of a sudden the music stops. You hear yelling, and booing, and throw the bum out.

It fucks up the flow of the song. I always turn down the volume during that part of the song.

They say that's audio from the rolling stones concert of Prince geting booed off stage.

When you groovin at a party, you stop dancing when that part comes up.

It's not.

silkylee said:

When I'm rollin in my ride, blasting POPLIFE.

When all of a sudden the music stops. You hear yelling, and booing, and throw the bum out.

It fucks up the flow of the song. I always turn down the volume during that part of the song.

They say that's audio from the rolling stones concert of Prince geting booed off stage.

When you groovin at a party, you stop dancing when that part comes up.

It's a boxing match!

Spinlight said:

silkylee said:

When I'm rollin in my ride, blasting POPLIFE.

When all of a sudden the music stops. You hear yelling, and booing, and throw the bum out.

It fucks up the flow of the song. I always turn down the volume during that part of the song.

They say that's audio from the rolling stones concert of Prince geting booed off stage.

When you groovin at a party, you stop dancing when that part comes up.

It's a boxing match!

I've heard that it was taken from a boxing sample, but no one seems to be able to point to a specific sound effects library or LP. I've found one "crowd noise" sfx that sounds like a match, but I'm not certain.

squirrelgrease said:

Spinlight said:

It's a boxing match!

I've heard that it was taken from a boxing sample, but no one seems to be able to point to a specific sound effects library or LP. I've found one "crowd noise" sfx that sounds like a match, but I'm not certain.

I remember long discussions trying to figure out both what this was and where the damn sample is from because as I recall NO ONE over the years has been able to figure that out. (Remember the recent discovery of the "Bizarre!" sample, lol.)

Prince himself referenced the sample in the AOL chat question and answer thing which was also reposted recently, but he didn't actually give a real answer.

The boxing match theory has been the one that's stuck (after it was declared to categorically NOT be the Rolling Stones concert), but I don't think it's ever actually gone far beyond a theory.

Spinlight said:

squirrelgrease said:

I've heard that it was taken from a boxing sample, but no one seems to be able to point to a specific sound effects library or LP. I've found one "crowd noise" sfx that sounds like a match, but I'm not certain.

I remember long discussions trying to figure out both what this was and where the damn sample is from because as I recall NO ONE over the years has been able to figure that out. (Remember the recent discovery of the "Bizarre!" sample, lol.)

Prince himself referenced the sample in the AOL chat question and answer thing which was also reposted recently, but he didn't actually give a real answer.

The boxing match theory has been the one that's stuck (after it was declared to categorically NOT be the Rolling Stones concert), but I don't think it's ever actually gone far beyond a theory.

It certainly sounds like a sample, rather than a studio created hubbub (aka eyeknow / Alphabet St).

I'm sure I heard it on TV once, out of the blue, but it could be one of those things I a imagined.

I remember doing some painting once and I suddenly heard the sample from The Pope come through. Was it Bernie Mac or someone like that?

SquirrelMeat said:

I remember doing some painting once and I suddenly heard the sample from The Pope come through. Was it Bernie Mac or someone like that?

renfield said:

This is a fun thread!

Some minor things many people here probably already know:

1)The cassette and CD versions of "Still Waiting" on the Prince album clip the intro...so far as I know, the original vinyl is the only place to hear the complete song.

2)Just before the fade out on "Mountains," Prince whispers the word "starvation"

3)Purely my own observation, but I always thought it was interesting that Lovesexy starts with the sound of fire burning and the song "Eye No," with the word "No!" shouted throughout until the beginning of "Alphabet St." But t the album ends with water running on the song "Positivity," which says the word "yes" repeatedly throughout. Given the situation with the Black Album, I always thought this was a subtle metaphor for going from fire (Hell) and negativity to water (rebirth) and positivity. And, on the original vinyl and cassette, the literal turning point in these themes was the chanted "God is love..." part from "Anna Stesia." Or I'm just reading too much into it...

Why did he say starvation?

If you hold the Lovesexy cover up to the light (cassette), you'll see the "Yes" heart printed on the other side perfectly positioned on Prince's thigh.

"It leave my name upon my thigh"

In the credits, Prince is named with the same yes/heart symbol.

Don't know if it works with the CD.

"Sex in the Summer" supposedly contains a sample of Prince's baby's heart used as a drum beat.

Eyeofthelotus said:

renfield said:

This is a fun thread!

Some minor things many people here probably already know:

1)The cassette and CD versions of "Still Waiting" on the Prince album clip the intro...so far as I know, the original vinyl is the only place to hear the complete song.

2)Just before the fade out on "Mountains," Prince whispers the word "starvation"

3)Purely my own observation, but I always thought it was interesting that Lovesexy starts with the sound of fire burning and the song "Eye No," with the word "No!" shouted throughout until the beginning of "Alphabet St." But t the album ends with water running on the song "Positivity," which says the word "yes" repeatedly throughout. Given the situation with the Black Album, I always thought this was a subtle metaphor for going from fire (Hell) and negativity to water (rebirth) and positivity. And, on the original vinyl and cassette, the literal turning point in these themes was the chanted "God is love..." part from "Anna Stesia." Or I'm just reading too much into it...

Why did he say starvation?

It is believed to be in reference to the hunger in Africa (or any other part of the world, really). It's just a reference to the lyrics earlier in the song about the haystack of despair.

There´s an unreleased, uncirculating rock version of the song "Space" that I would love to hear.

[Edited 2/4/11 11:23am]

There´s a funny typo on the flipside of the Purple Rain vinyl album cover.

"There´s this purple suspicion that lurks in the anals of my mind......"

There´s a typo on the back cover of 1999-The New Master.

It says "jugdment day".

dannyd5050 said:

The ending of the single edit of "Hello" has a part not included in the 12" version.

Really?

The Purple Rain tour almost came over to Europe as planned before but then they changed plans...Prince was in Germany in 1985 and met the guy who was in charge of the "WDR Rockpalast" concert broadcasts and they arranged a deal to broadcast the Syracuse show instead.

Hence the "Germany!" shoutout by Prince while Eric Leeds is blowing his horn. It took me a while back then to figure that out. I never really understood the "Germany!" shoutout because it was not only broadcast in Germany but in several countries, but hey...

[Edited 2/4/11 11:36am]

Prince gave Spike Lee financial support for his movie "Malcolm X" and is listed in the credits.

The Turkish pop diva Ajda Pekkan is wearing a Lovesexy t-shirt in her video clip for the song"Vitrin".

( She still looks kinda hot for a 57 year old woman...the video is from 2003, she is 65 now.)