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Thread started 01/17/11 4:35am

razord

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Appreciation for There's others here with us

What do you think of the track "there's others here with us"?

I think its one of the most darkest of tracks Prince has ever created, and i love it but i dont know much about the background of it, any ideas anyone?

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Reply #1 posted 01/17/11 4:46am

IstenSzek

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it was recorded in spring of 1985 and intended for inclusion on Parade. on a first configuration

of that album, i believe it was track #5 or #6.

later it was one of the songs people could vote for at the celebration of 2000, for inclusion on

crystal ball volume 2. but that was never released either.

shame, because i would love to have this in good quality. amazing track.

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/11 6:36am

vitriol

^This track is circulating in a VERY good quality since some years ago.

Interesting, a curiosity but BORING to hear.

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Reply #3 posted 01/17/11 6:52am

thedance

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Love this song music

One of his best outtakes, imo.

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Reply #4 posted 01/17/11 7:14am

NouveauDance

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vitriol said:

Interesting, a curiosity but BORING to hear.

I have to agree with this unfortunately. I appreciate it's interesting and quite unique in the Prince canon, but I've never really dug it that much. I still appreciate that he does stuff like this, but I can see why it didn't make the cut for Parade.

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Reply #5 posted 01/17/11 10:09am

mblevels

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vitriol said:

Interesting, a curiosity but BORING to hear.

I have to agree with this unfortunately. I appreciate it's interesting and quite unique in the Prince canon, but I've never really dug it that much. I still appreciate that he does stuff like this, but I can see why it didn't make the cut for Parade.

I have to agree with this as well. The song doesn't really blend in with the rest of Parade, with any album for that matter, so I guess it better stay in the vault. It was "fun" to hear it once though wink

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Reply #6 posted 01/17/11 10:40am

irreverence

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This song is one of Prince's great dark songs. In my opinion much better than much of his released stuff.

Not boring for me at all. Might depend on whether you dig the melody or just the spooky sound. I dig both.

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Reply #7 posted 01/17/11 11:35am

Militant

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I like it but it sounds unfinished. Like, it needs something else to make it really pop off. Good song though.

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Reply #8 posted 01/17/11 2:45pm

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I don't like nor dislike this track.

It is what it is, an interesting outtake.

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Reply #9 posted 01/17/11 2:59pm

Marrk

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vitriol said:

^This track is circulating in a VERY good quality since some years ago.

Interesting, a curiosity but BORING to hear.

My interest would be elevated if it was in CD quality. It is from a classic era. Don't think it's boring by any stretch.

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Reply #10 posted 01/17/11 6:21pm

yankem

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thumbs up!

"open your heart, open your mind
A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #11 posted 01/17/11 11:39pm

vitriol

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My interest would be elevated if it was in CD quality.

Well, the source that has been circulating for some years now is very close to cd quality.

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Reply #12 posted 01/18/11 12:42am

Cthulhu

I like the song's weirdness.

Ia Ia Cthulhu Fthagn!
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/11 4:40am

IstenSzek

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vitriol said:

^This track is circulating in a VERY good quality since some years ago.

Interesting, a curiosity but BORING to hear.

i wouldn't call it boring, but it isn't a song that you'd put on repeat either, no lol

and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #14 posted 01/18/11 5:15am

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I agree with others, not something that I listen to on a regular basis. But there are many songs of any genre that I'm like that with. There has to be a mood

But with this song it's usually included in a playlist that I created when I'm in a Parade era mood and it always pleases

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Reply #15 posted 01/18/11 6:25am

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Others Here With Us
When I'm alone, my mind takes a drive
Through chocolate religion and spirits alive
All I was brought up in this world 2 know
Is lost when a demon swallows them whole

CHORUS:
There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know

It's strange how your mind works when Love is in power
One learns 2 care and appreciate a flower
What makes others want 2 change your mind?
All the things I've seen, life is so sublime

CHORUS

7-month-old baby died in her sleep
The parents went crazy and cried 4 a week
They swore they heard her laugh in the crib by the wall
They're convinced she's with us if she's anything at all

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know (I know)

Bobby had an uncle who took a string
And wrapped his neck around it, a pitiful thing
If only we can turn back the hands of time
Except there's others here with us, life is sublime

There's others here with us
There's others here with us, I know (I know)

All the things I've seen


CHORUS

Others Here With Us
Prince's experimental frame of mind is evident on this track, a dark, strange number with a stark instrumentation made up of tribal-like drumming and various sound effects, such as someone weeping. Prince's vocals are harsh and confused, matching the nightmarish lyrics mentioning death and suicide. Recorded during the Parade sessions, it confirms Prince's belief the spirit lives on after death.

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Reply #16 posted 01/18/11 10:13am

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The song is very NIN in style! It's like what Trent Rezner would make.

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Reply #17 posted 01/18/11 11:59am

squirrelgrease

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Not my cup of tea - Parade would have been quite different with this track. It was recorded the same day as Old Friends 4 Sale and Tibet.

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Reply #18 posted 01/18/11 3:39pm

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squirrelgrease said:

Not my cup of tea - Parade would have been quite different with this track. It was recorded the same day as Old Friends 4 Sale and Tibet.

yes, and you know Prince still had that tragic dark thing he wanted to portray, like in Purple Rain

I LOVE Old Friends 4 Sale though

Tibet????

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Reply #19 posted 01/18/11 4:08pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

squirrelgrease said:

Not my cup of tea - Parade would have been quite different with this track. It was recorded the same day as Old Friends 4 Sale and Tibet.

yes, and you know Prince still had that tragic dark thing he wanted to portray, like in Purple Rain

I LOVE Old Friends 4 Sale though

Tibet????

There were several instrumentals recorded around the Parade sessions and this was one of them. The title was apparently inspired by the "exotic" sounds he used from the Fairlight. It's not circulating as far as I know.

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Reply #20 posted 01/19/11 6:42am

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squirrelgrease said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

yes, and you know Prince still had that tragic dark thing he wanted to portray, like in Purple Rain

I LOVE Old Friends 4 Sale though

Tibet????

There were several instrumentals recorded around the Parade sessions and this was one of them. The title was apparently inspired by the "exotic" sounds he used from the Fairlight. It's not circulating as far as I know.

wow. and like you said in another thread(Power Fantastic) Prince is scared of stuff like this. The creative energies were at a explosive high. From the instruments to all the outtakes and the Dream Factory session, the Family music the Flesh sessions

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Reply #21 posted 01/19/11 10:33am

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I mean, the wailing n' all is striking to the ear...it's ok.

I personally find 'Cookie Jar', darker...there's a real monster in that.

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Reply #22 posted 01/19/11 10:39am

Dogsinthetrees

One of my favorites since I first heard it in 1987.

I'm just saying...
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Reply #23 posted 01/19/11 6:45pm

cfluid

Love this one because it's diff than the usual. What is Tibet?

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Reply #24 posted 01/20/11 3:30am

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cfluid said:

Love this one because it's diff than the usual. What is Tibet?

An unreleased instrumental from the Parade era recorded at Sunset Sound.

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