I dont know, but if there was a time he used drugs, it must have been around 87. Stuff like ´Black Album´ and ´SOTT´ were completely creative and great.
But I prefer to believe he didnt use them.

GustavoRibas said "But I prefer to believe he didnt use them." - why is that? Would you prefer that he sang all his sexual lyrics whilst remaining a virgin??!!

moonshine said:

It's Coke Johnson...

justanotherasshole said:

It is not because many peeps use it than everybody use drugs. I don't think Prince did like some said he likes control and doesn't appear to be interested in that... read what he says in the sign o the times song " In sepetember my cousin... now he's doing horse it's june..."

id say yes he used drugs but my ? was he ever bi sexual he's persona would make you wonder.

Klaatu - the line you quote has a few interpretations when considered in it's wider context. Isolating the lyric like that puts it in a different light.

For example, if we take your logic, then what can be said for when Prince sings in "Now" - "Light us up and take a hit, Light us up and take a hit, Mmmm, suck us til we dry, And when we looking like a roach - hit the lights!" - ? Hmm?

Did you ever hear "Schoolyard"?

What about Now, "lick-us-twist-us-roll-us-in-your-mouth".
Light us up and take a hit."

Of course, sure, he could be writing about something he has no personal knowledge of, right? And be totally convincing.

Right?

Sure. There's Do Me Baby and International Lover for instance... just because he SOUNDS convincing, doesn't mean that he's really DONE that stuff, right?

Right?

Sure he's done drugs... PUT THE RIGHT LETTERS TOGETHER AND MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY: L S D

edit:
---But I'll say this - he's definitely not doing them now. LOTS of pop/rock stars go through the drug phase, and if it don't kill them, they walk away and then go telling everybody to avoid the drugs. We all go through phases. We've all tried a little of this, little of that, and now, looking back, we don't recommend it for everybody.

I'm speaking of course, of high-heeled-boots. What did you THINK I was talking about?
[This message was edited Wed Feb 5 8:37:13 PST 2003 by otan]

Mindflux said:

That is exactly what I also wanted to point... Using lyrics (especially prince i would say) canbe misleading...

otan said:

He used the drug image a lot in the past (pope etc...) in now it means (at least to me) that he is the safe ecstasy that can make us move... Lovesexy is without side effects and he also say that we ar gnna play in the sunshine wihtout the help of a margarita or an ecstasy... Also durin in black period he kept on telling about his intelligence (we are cool as we are intellignet in "Le Grind")... I think the man is too smart for that...

otan said:


Correctomundo



HIGH heeled boots no?

Mindflux said:

NO!

I'll take that as a sarcastic "no", yes?!!!

Mindflux said:

Hey it's Prince we're talking about ok?

rainbowchild said:

Have you read Per Nilsen's Dancemusicsexromance? He suggested that Prince had a bad experience with ecstasy back in late 1987, which led to Prince scrapping the Black Album. Per does quote several people to back up the ecstasy story, although at least one of them (Matt Fink?--I don't have the book with me at the moment) appeared to have no firsthand knowledge and was just repeating what he had heard.

The accounts of Prince's appearance and behavior do sound like someone on E... especially the dilated pupils and the "empathetic" things he was allegedly saying.

In all fairness, I should mention that Per did suggest that it was probably a one-time experiment, and that Prince has generally been a clean-living kind of guy.

I hate it when people just write on a thread but...

I think Prince has probably smoked some grass in his time. It could be that he doesn't consider it a drug like heroin or cocaine.

Just my two cents. What the hell do I know, it's my first post.

matt said:

No, I haven't read the book; thanks for the info...I agree that it may have been an experiment; even Clinton inhaled before..but Prince seems to live a healthy lifestyle; doesn't smoke, drink -- and isn't he vegetarian?

But I know vegetarians and vegan who take drugs - being vegetarian isn't about clean living, there's a much deeper principle involved.

Also, he didn't use to drink (alledgedly) when he was younger, but he certainly has started, sometime in his 30s. He's said it in interviews and also sings it in a few songs (wine being the predominant drink to be mentioned (Holy River, Other Side of the Pillow, The Sun, Moon and Stars etc).

There are also many references to smoking in Prince tunes and he can even be seen pretend-smoking on what looks like a poppy of all things(!) in the Race video.

Mindflux said:

True to all that but the wine image is very common in black music (you find reference in mavis blood is thicker etc... There is something religious to it. The smoking thing yes, this is a set play... Notice that he always either throw the smoke or hints that it's not good... He likes style and a cigarette in hand confers some style...

He lives a fairly healthy life style...

sawatdiikhrap said:

I find this far more interesting than a lot of those "how large is the royal penis" (yes Prince's dick) kinda threads!

If he's into his JW beliefs wholeheartedly, then probably not for some time. I have heard some allegations years ago from people that have dealt with him professionally, and one or two folks that have dealt with him "in close range" over an "extended" period of time- but, nothing to cause any worry, just the usual musician experimentation thing...

Interesting enough, I have musician friends who make fun of me because they are able to decode drug references from his older songs so easily- whereas I was never able to figure out those lyrics. It had been explained to me that some of the imagery in the lyrics would be hard for me to decipher because I hadn't used a specific drug, and therefore wouldn't know the (music) language associated with it. Take the song "POP LIFE" for example, there is the part of a verse that goes:

...the rythym of addiction flows,
you think it's hot...
but there won't be no water
when the fire blows!



Now, here I am, old as Methuselem, having no idea whatsoever that this (according to people who have experimented with the drug) is a phsysiological reference to Cocaine (and one of its side effects). Lord knows I've been to some wild parties in my younger days, but I guess I never really got beyond wine...

But at any rate, if this man did drugs in the past, then so what. He looks pretty okay now as the years are a creepin' up on him. A lot of folks experiment when they're younger, and then are lucky enough to snap out of it as they grow a little older and wiser (thank goodness)!

I don't care if he did drugs most of the drugs are not so dangerous if you know what you're doing and wants just to experiment.

aside from the DMSR Book listening to "Around The World in a Day" leads me to Believe Hell yes.His VOcals&Vibe there sound like He was on something a bit&it wasn't all Natural Flower Power???

ReeseStrongnight said:

That line in "pop life" was about Vanity & Morris Day, both cocaine users at the time.

For You = clean
Prince = Coke
Dirty Mind = Coke
Controversy = Coke
1999 = Coke, Acid
Purple Rain = Heroin
Around the World = lots of Acid
Parade = back to Coke
Sign O = Heroin, pills
Black = who knows what
Lovesexy = extascy
Batman = bad weed
Rest of albums = clean

mistermaxxx said:



agree, ATWIAD is a great album with a psychedelic sound (also some Parade songs are kinda weird-n-trippy btw), i can't imagine Prince doing this album being completely sober.

FaMgRoOvE

EARLUBAD said:


Some of the songs on these albums are rebelious, bring out a lot of anger, emotions and have a dark sound. Do you guys think he made this kind of music being sober...hmm doubt it so very much.

FaMgRoOvE

mistermaxxx said:



I'm wondering if Prince also made the decisions for the look of the sleeve and the graphics, i think it looks like Paisley Park, some kind of visual hallucination, a surreal image of a park where colorful, different kinds of people meet and get along with each other.

And what about the songs:

PAISLEY PARK: visual hallucination, changes in perception(Lsd)
"The little 1 will escort U 2 places within your MIND
The former is red, white, and blue The ladder is purple, come on and climb"
AROUND THE WORLD IN A DAY: distorted sense of time (Lsd),
around the world in ONE DAY?!
TEMPATION: changes in mood and thought (Lsd)

It's one of his best albums, like a dream, i luv it

familygroove said:

Accompanied by psychedelic music, too. I love it!!!