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Thread started 12/27/10 12:17am

NelsonR

"I'll accept that..."

A friend of mine was telling me about a Revolution rehearsal where they were practicing The Beautiful Ones.

In it, they're working on instrumentals and Prince and Lisa have a discussion, negotiating a line, pitch. He says (according to my friend)

"I'll accept that."

2 me, this is symbolic of Prince's willingness to allow input into his music...kinda interesting since Purple Rain was based on a contrary theme

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Reply #1 posted 12/27/10 12:23am

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it might come as a shock to some, but the movie purple rain wasn't a documentary

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Reply #2 posted 12/27/10 12:39am

NelsonR

unique said:

it might come as a shock to some, but the movie purple rain wasn't a documentary

Point taken Dearly Beloved cool

Still, Prince is perceived by some as "closed" to the ideas of others,

so eye thought 'twas interesting that he would actually appear to be

humble and listen to Lisa like that

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Reply #3 posted 12/27/10 2:28am

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unique said:

it might come as a shock to some, but the movie purple rain wasn't a documentary

lol lol lol

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Reply #4 posted 12/27/10 3:40am

NelsonR

i think y'all are missing the point. many people have suggested that Prince needs to be produced by others or should allow more input into his music. the reality is that each band member he works with brings a unique flavor to his sound, shaping it into new forms. compare his band now, with say, the NPG from the early 90's.

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Reply #5 posted 12/27/10 2:15pm

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Acceptance is to see the mind as it is without any particular desire to change it. We do not take the mind too seriously, but relate to it with gentleness and a sense of curiosity. We let the mind be as it is, and in this act we relax. The moment we relax, the grip of the mind loosens, for without our involvement it has no one to control. Acceptance is not psychological abnegation or indifference. It is a profound affirmation of the mind as an indivisible part of who we are.

One of the pitfalls in the work with the mind is aiming for perfection. Psychological sanity is not based on having a flawless mind, but on being at ease with its imperfections. In truth, the mind can never reach perfection. What it can achieve is relative harmony, purity and wisdom. In the very act of accepting the mind, we can actually transform a large portion of its unconscious energy into an open space of well-being.

Embracing negativity:
The acceptance we apply to deal with negativity is characterized by an absence of struggle. The mind has to be seen as a part of our existence that needs not only to be accepted, but also embraced with love and forgiveness. It is not the enemy, but an aspect of our identity that has been corrupted by the dust of negative impressions gathered along our journey through time. We tend to view the mind horizontally as something that exists in front of the observer, but to embrace the mind is to see it as contained within the soul’s body. By embracing the mind with the light of I am, one creates an environment of non-violent transformation and healing.

Understanding: Having embraced its negativity, the next positive movement towards the mind is our attempt to understand it. That which we do not understand will naturally rule us. For example, if we do not recognize that the root of our envy is our own sense of deficiency, there is no real way to transform it. The role of under standing is to illuminate the mind with a non-judgmental consciousness that sees through and beyond the causal forces that create our thoughts and subconscious tendencies.

The term ‘understanding’ as it is used here should not be seen to suggest an excessively psychological approach that is overly self-analytical and introspective. We can easily become mired if we delve too deeply into the complexities of the mind. Rather, we require a gentle yet penetrating understanding that will help us to gain clarity about the mind’s nature and mechanisms, as well as the psychological roots of our thoughts and emotions.
From the teaching of enlightment
Love always

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Reply #6 posted 12/27/10 3:26pm

TheKid94

.....i feel like this is wayy over analyzed... wink

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Reply #7 posted 12/27/10 4:15pm

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TheKid94 said:

.....i feel like this is wayy over analyzed... wink

say what... lol

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Reply #8 posted 12/27/10 6:23pm

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unique said:

it might come as a shock to some, but the movie purple rain wasn't a documentary

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Reply #9 posted 12/27/10 6:27pm

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9037355 said:

Acceptance is to see the mind as it is without any particular desire to change it. We do not take the mind too seriously, but relate to it with gentleness and a sense of curiosity. We let the mind be as it is, and in this act we relax. The moment we relax, the grip of the mind loosens, for without our involvement it has no one to control. Acceptance is not psychological abnegation or indifference. It is a profound affirmation of the mind as an indivisible part of who we are.

One of the pitfalls in the work with the mind is aiming for perfection. Psychological sanity is not based on having a flawless mind, but on being at ease with its imperfections. In truth, the mind can never reach perfection. What it can achieve is relative harmony, purity and wisdom. In the very act of accepting the mind, we can actually transform a large portion of its unconscious energy into an open space of well-being.

Embracing negativity:
The acceptance we apply to deal with negativity is characterized by an absence of struggle. The mind has to be seen as a part of our existence that needs not only to be accepted, but also embraced with love and forgiveness. It is not the enemy, but an aspect of our identity that has been corrupted by the dust of negative impressions gathered along our journey through time. We tend to view the mind horizontally as something that exists in front of the observer, but to embrace the mind is to see it as contained within the soul’s body. By embracing the mind with the light of I am, one creates an environment of non-violent transformation and healing.

Understanding: Having embraced its negativity, the next positive movement towards the mind is our attempt to understand it. That which we do not understand will naturally rule us. For example, if we do not recognize that the root of our envy is our own sense of deficiency, there is no real way to transform it. The role of under standing is to illuminate the mind with a non-judgmental consciousness that sees through and beyond the causal forces that create our thoughts and subconscious tendencies.

The term ‘understanding’ as it is used here should not be seen to suggest an excessively psychological approach that is overly self-analytical and introspective. We can easily become mired if we delve too deeply into the complexities of the mind. Rather, we require a gentle yet penetrating understanding that will help us to gain clarity about the mind’s nature and mechanisms, as well as the psychological roots of our thoughts and emotions.
From the teaching of enlightment
Love always

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Reply #10 posted 12/27/10 7:42pm

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I lol'd lol

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Reply #11 posted 12/28/10 8:17am

NelsonR

9037355 said:

Acceptance is to see the mind as it is without any particular desire to change it. We do not take the mind too seriously, but relate to it with gentleness and a sense of curiosity. We let the mind be as it is, and in this act we relax. The moment we relax, the grip of the mind loosens, for without our involvement it has no one to control. Acceptance is not psychological abnegation or indifference. It is a profound affirmation of the mind as an indivisible part of who we are.

One of the pitfalls in the work with the mind is aiming for perfection. Psychological sanity is not based on having a flawless mind, but on being at ease with its imperfections. In truth, the mind can never reach perfection. What it can achieve is relative harmony, purity and wisdom. In the very act of accepting the mind, we can actually transform a large portion of its unconscious energy into an open space of well-being.

Embracing negativity:
The acceptance we apply to deal with negativity is characterized by an absence of struggle. The mind has to be seen as a part of our existence that needs not only to be accepted, but also embraced with love and forgiveness. It is not the enemy, but an aspect of our identity that has been corrupted by the dust of negative impressions gathered along our journey through time. We tend to view the mind horizontally as something that exists in front of the observer, but to embrace the mind is to see it as contained within the soul’s body. By embracing the mind with the light of I am, one creates an environment of non-violent transformation and healing.

Understanding: Having embraced its negativity, the next positive movement towards the mind is our attempt to understand it. That which we do not understand will naturally rule us. For example, if we do not recognize that the root of our envy is our own sense of deficiency, there is no real way to transform it. The role of under standing is to illuminate the mind with a non-judgmental consciousness that sees through and beyond the causal forces that create our thoughts and subconscious tendencies.

The term ‘understanding’ as it is used here should not be seen to suggest an excessively psychological approach that is overly self-analytical and introspective. We can easily become mired if we delve too deeply into the complexities of the mind. Rather, we require a gentle yet penetrating understanding that will help us to gain clarity about the mind’s nature and mechanisms, as well as the psychological roots of our thoughts and emotions.
From the teaching of enlightment
Love always

eek

is it possible to link this analysis to Prince and his musical inspiration/relationships?

lol

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Reply #12 posted 12/28/10 10:35am

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NelsonR said:

9037355 said:

Acceptance is to see the mind as it is without any particular desire to change it. We do not take the mind too seriously, but relate to it with gentleness and a sense of curiosity. We let the mind be as it is, and in this act we relax. The moment we relax, the grip of the mind loosens, for without our involvement it has no one to control. Acceptance is not psychological abnegation or indifference. It is a profound affirmation of the mind as an indivisible part of who we are.

One of the pitfalls in the work with the mind is aiming for perfection. Psychological sanity is not based on having a flawless mind, but on being at ease with its imperfections. In truth, the mind can never reach perfection. What it can achieve is relative harmony, purity and wisdom. In the very act of accepting the mind, we can actually transform a large portion of its unconscious energy into an open space of well-being.

Embracing negativity:
The acceptance we apply to deal with negativity is characterized by an absence of struggle. The mind has to be seen as a part of our existence that needs not only to be accepted, but also embraced with love and forgiveness. It is not the enemy, but an aspect of our identity that has been corrupted by the dust of negative impressions gathered along our journey through time. We tend to view the mind horizontally as something that exists in front of the observer, but to embrace the mind is to see it as contained within the soul’s body. By embracing the mind with the light of I am, one creates an environment of non-violent transformation and healing.

Understanding: Having embraced its negativity, the next positive movement towards the mind is our attempt to understand it. That which we do not understand will naturally rule us. For example, if we do not recognize that the root of our envy is our own sense of deficiency, there is no real way to transform it. The role of under standing is to illuminate the mind with a non-judgmental consciousness that sees through and beyond the causal forces that create our thoughts and subconscious tendencies.

The term ‘understanding’ as it is used here should not be seen to suggest an excessively psychological approach that is overly self-analytical and introspective. We can easily become mired if we delve too deeply into the complexities of the mind. Rather, we require a gentle yet penetrating understanding that will help us to gain clarity about the mind’s nature and mechanisms, as well as the psychological roots of our thoughts and emotions.
From the teaching of enlightment
Love always

eek

is it possible to link this analysis to Prince and his musical inspiration/relationships?

lol

Well you tell me .... acceptance is acceptance...whether or not it involves Prince...otherwise it's just pursudeance ... wink

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Reply #13 posted 12/28/10 10:54am

NelsonR

9037355 said:

NelsonR said:

eek

is it possible to link this analysis to Prince and his musical inspiration/relationships?

lol

Well you tell me .... acceptance is acceptance...whether or not it involves Prince...otherwise it's just pursudeance ... wink

truly, 'tis more than the action, but the inner motif

razz

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Reply #14 posted 12/28/10 11:02am

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NelsonR said:

9037355 said:

Well you tell me .... acceptance is acceptance...whether or not it involves Prince...otherwise it's just pursudeance ... wink

truly, 'tis more than the action, but the inner motif

razz

the thought the action the word

(dunno y u trying 2 disagree with me, didn't u like the texture ?)

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Reply #15 posted 12/28/10 12:46pm

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NelsonR said:

unique said:

it might come as a shock to some, but the movie purple rain wasn't a documentary

Point taken Dearly Beloved cool

Still, Prince is perceived by some as "closed" to the ideas of others,

so eye thought 'twas interesting that he would actually appear to be

humble and listen to Lisa like that

I've read and heard that a lot of the songs back before the prince Era some of the songs were 'Jam Sessions'. I know for a fact that Levi Seacer, Wendy & Lisa were heavy contributors to Prince's music and perhaps some of the lyrics, so you'll get no argument out of me ...

Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

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