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Thread started 12/01/10 6:56am

Eyeofthelotus

Prince Autobiography?

Is there even a such thing?if there is,please let me know.

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Reply #1 posted 12/01/10 7:10am

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To the best of my knowledge Prince hasn't done 1 yet but when & if he does it will be a best seller. Really when u think about it there aren't many books available on him considering how long he's been around 4!!! A few books about him but nothing like a full blown bio, that would be awesome.

I'm trying 2 picture Prince putting his life in A book, i mean imagine the size of it!!!! Really!!lol

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Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
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Reply #2 posted 12/01/10 7:12am

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I'd love to see Prince write a book, autobiography or not.

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Reply #3 posted 12/01/10 7:36am

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MMMMM....... Maybe one day!!!! When he has time!!!

Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
Peace & Be Wild!
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Reply #4 posted 12/01/10 8:47am

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He should authorize a "scrapbook" style book. I think something with all the tour posters, photos, memorabilia from the early days up to now would be cool. Plus add a CD or DVD in there of some previously unheard songs.

I don't know if we'll ever see a Prince memoir, but would be cool if he tried his hand at writing a novel.

But what would be cool is if he collaborated with a graphic novelist and wound up making a concept album and book. Maybe DC Vertigo, and the deal would be that if he goes with them, he gets the "Batman" rights to his music and videos, so there's no red tape if he wants to do a reissue/deluxe version?

Neil Gaiman lives in Minnesota (convenient), a great storyteller (and moviemaker), and a collaboration between Prince and Gaiman would be great.

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Reply #5 posted 12/01/10 8:52am

Genesia

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lovesexy06 said:

To the best of my knowledge there isn't an "official Prince approved one". Really when u think about it there aren't many books available on him considering how long he's been around 4!!! A few books about him but nothing like a full blown bio.

Ummmm...any autobiography would be "Prince approved" - since an autobiography is a book a person writes about him or herself. confuse

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Reply #6 posted 12/02/10 4:10am

Eyeofthelotus

Genesia said:

lovesexy06 said:

To the best of my knowledge there isn't an "official Prince approved one". Really when u think about it there aren't many books available on him considering how long he's been around 4!!! A few books about him but nothing like a full blown bio.

Ummmm...any autobiography would be "Prince approved" - since an autobiography is a book a person writes about him or herself. confuse

I know THAT,Im asking if there IS 1.

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Reply #7 posted 12/02/10 4:13am

boscho

dalsh327 said:

He should authorize a "scrapbook" style book. I think something with all the tour posters, photos, memorabilia from the early days up to now would be cool. Plus add a CD or DVD in there of some previously unheard songs.

I really like your idea.

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Reply #8 posted 12/02/10 5:40am

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Eyeofthelotus said:

Genesia said:

Ummmm...any autobiography would be "Prince approved" - since an autobiography is a book a person writes about him or herself. confuse

I know THAT,Im asking if there IS 1.

I know THAT, I wasn't talking to you. (Notice that I quoted someone else who did not know the difference, apparently.)

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Reply #9 posted 12/02/10 3:42pm

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Hey sorry, i misworded my original post! My apologies 4 being human!!!! I'm fixing it now!!

Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
Peace & Be Wild!
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Reply #10 posted 12/02/10 3:47pm

Miss513

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

...Where the Purple Party People Be!

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Reply #11 posted 12/02/10 8:22pm

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Miss513 said:

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

...Where the Purple Party People Be!

I found that book to be not only full of misinformation and conjecture, used to paint a picture of "Prince's fall" that didn't happen. The title is thus invalid.

You need to read Per Nilsen's "DanceMusicSexRomance: The First Decade" if you want to read REAL accounts of Prince's life and career (up until '88). Real eyewitness accounts and anecdotes from his friends, family, collaborators, peers, engineers, and more. All thoroughly researched, double and triple checked for authenticity.

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Reply #12 posted 12/02/10 9:01pm

dalsh327

boscho said:

dalsh327 said:

He should authorize a "scrapbook" style book. I think something with all the tour posters, photos, memorabilia from the early days up to now would be cool. Plus add a CD or DVD in there of some previously unheard songs.

I really like your idea.

I like it when artists put their journals out, crossed out lines they almost used, poems that never fit into any song, there's a point where that stuff is either going to be burned so no one else has access to it when he's gone, or handed over to a university.

I'm more a fan of the "nuts and bolts" about putting a record together and a tour... equipment and session documentation, tour history, than I am about who he slept with, even though I don't think he's slept since 1976. But putting out all the old posters, setlists, rare photos, lyrics, etc in a book is far more entertaining read. Dylan, Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Elvis, John Lennon and Bob Marley all have books like this out. Jimmy Page put a book out of mostly photos and anecdotes, but it's extremely limited and extremely overpriced ($800, 2500 copies all signed)... but I'm sure a book like that, a limited run, would be sold out.

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Reply #13 posted 12/02/10 9:02pm

dalsh327

lovesexy06 said:

To the best of my knowledge Prince hasn't done 1 yet but when & if he does it will be a best seller. Really when u think about it there aren't many books available on him considering how long he's been around 4!!! A few books about him but nothing like a full blown bio, that would be awesome.

I'm trying 2 picture Prince putting his life in A book, i mean imagine the size of it!!!! Really!!lol

[Edited 12/2/10 15:55pm]

If he wrote a book, I think he'd be doing something along the lines of Bob Dylan "Chronicles" than he would a memoir like Keith Richards put out.

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Reply #14 posted 12/03/10 1:25am

boscho

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I'm more a fan of the "nuts and bolts" about putting a record together and a tour... equipment and session documentation, tour history, than I am about who he slept with, even though I don't think he's slept since 1976. But putting out all the old posters, setlists, rare photos, lyrics, etc in a book is far more entertaining read. Dylan, Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Elvis, John Lennon and Bob Marley all have books like this out. Jimmy Page put a book out of mostly photos and anecdotes, but it's extremely limited and extremely overpriced ($800, 2500 copies all signed)... but I'm sure a book like that, a limited run, would be sold out.

Yep, that's infinetly more interesting than the personal side to his life. Do you have any more ideas, because you're so right on at the moment!!

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Reply #15 posted 12/03/10 4:11am

Eyeofthelotus

Miss513 said:

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

...Where the Purple Party People Be!

I read that 1!!! it was good.

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Reply #16 posted 12/03/10 4:12am

Eyeofthelotus

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Miss513 said:

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

hmm

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Reply #17 posted 12/03/10 9:16am

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Genesia said:

Eyeofthelotus said:

I know THAT,Im asking if there IS 1.

I know THAT, I wasn't talking to you. (Notice that I quoted someone else who did not know the difference, apparently.)

So I take it that we are still talking autobiography here.

What would Prince say about his childhood in a chemtrails infested neighborhood? I think it would read like the beginning of Vanity's autobiography. It would be a hilarious journey of the mind that would be even better if the reader was on some serious 60's era drugs.

There came a time when the risk of remaining tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom. Anais Nin.
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Reply #18 posted 12/03/10 9:18am

Miss513

Militant said:

Miss513 said:

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

Hey Militant- I didn't necessarily agree with Alex'as interpretation of Prince's "fall" either... I've read Nilsen's book. I enjoyed that one as well. Have you read Matthew Carcieri's Prince: A Life in Music, A Playlist History, Liz Jones' Purple Reign or Brian Morton's Prince: A Thief in the Temple? What did you think of any of those. I think they all offered a unique perspective...

Miss513
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Reply #19 posted 12/03/10 9:19am

Miss513

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Genesia said:

I know THAT, I wasn't talking to you. (Notice that I quoted someone else who did not know the difference, apparently.)

So I take it that we are still talking autobiography here.

What would Prince say about his childhood in a chemtrails infested neighborhood? I think it would read like the beginning of Vanity's autobiography. It would be a hilarious journey of the mind that would be even better if the reader was on some serious 60's era drugs.

Were you able to get through Vanity's entire biography? I was thinking about reading it...

Miss513
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Reply #20 posted 12/03/10 9:22am

Miss513

Miss513 said:

Deadflow3r said:

So I take it that we are still talking autobiography here.

What would Prince say about his childhood in a chemtrails infested neighborhood? I think it would read like the beginning of Vanity's autobiography. It would be a hilarious journey of the mind that would be even better if the reader was on some serious 60's era drugs.

Were you able to get through Vanity's entire biography? I was thinking about reading it...

*autobiography

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Reply #21 posted 12/03/10 9:46am

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Miss513 said:

Hey Militant- I didn't necessarily agree with Alex'as interpretation of Prince's "fall" either... I've read Nilsen's book. I enjoyed that one as well. Have you read Matthew Carcieri's Prince: A Life in Music, A Playlist History, Liz Jones' Purple Reign or Brian Morton's Prince: A Thief in the Temple? What did you think of any of those. I think they all offered a unique perspective...

Yes, read all of them. I liked Matthew's writing style of writing about individual songs to tell the story. That was quite inventive, however there was still a little bit of conjecture in there and overall, I didn't learn anything new from that book.

Liz Jones book is great, every fan should have that.

I fucking hated "A Thief In The Temple". Poorly written, not much insight or analysis, and skips over some very important time frames. I wouldn't recommend that piece of shit to anyone.

Luckily, Ronin Ro's Prince book should be out soon and he's a great writer, responsible for two of my favorite music books (Dr. Dre's biography and Have Gun Will Travel which is about Death Row Records). So that should even things out a bit.

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Reply #22 posted 12/03/10 9:51am

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There really isn't any point in Prince writing an autobiography. If he did, it would be the most fanciful, factually inaccurate, axe-grinding and pseudo-philosophical agenda-promoting account of his life and career one could ever dream up. You wouldn't know any more about Prince after reading it than before, except to know that he's either a liar or outright insane. And we already have enough evidence of that that he doesn't need to spend the time and effort writing it down for us.

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Reply #23 posted 12/03/10 10:27am

AlexHahn

Thanks kindly, Miss. I wish I could report that my views have changed since the writing of the book. Candidly, I don't even know how to access Prince's new music. Would you say it is enjoyable, and do you know where it could had.

As for EyeoftheLotus' comment, I have long ago come to turns with the divisive nature of the book. The reviews on amazon pretty much tell the story, from highly laudatory to scathing.

I think at the end of the day everyone has a right to their subjective views of any piece of art.

However, I will note for Mr. Lotus that Possessed relied heavily on Per's research, and he was a part of the book's preparation. Suffice it to say that he was very comfortable with it.

My leading source was Alan Leeds, Prince's former manager and a brilliant mind who also worked with James Brown. I was very comfortable with Alan's recollections being accurate factually and also, equally important, accurate in spirit.

My intent was to create a legimate critical biography. Some feel I succeeded, others not. I can tell you that the project was borne of my love -- at one point an obsession -- with Prince's music.

Thanks again for the kind words.

As for the nasty ones -- well, I've blown up at people before too. Some things in life can be outraging. For me, I have gradually but steadily in life tried to refrain from personal attacks, so I will not respond in kind, other than to say that we are people with feelings.

Alex

Miss513 said:

Yeah, no autobiographies. The biography that I enjoyed the most was Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince. I've been working on one myself for some time.

http://www.apurpledayinde...gspot.com/

...Where the Purple Party People Be!

[Edited 12/3/10 10:28am]

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Reply #24 posted 12/03/10 12:32pm

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Alex,

Respect for you coming on here personally to defend your work.


My opinion of your book remains the same, but I apologize and retract my personal attack on you.

One thing I'd like to ask - are you open to reissuing the book with perhaps a better title? When you wrote it, did you expect Prince to "rise" again, as he did, following the ridiculously successful Musicology tour, Grammy performance, and Rock N Roll Hall of Fame induction in 2004, the #1 Billboard album 3121 and accompanying Las Vegas residency in 2006, the sold out 21 nights in London in 2007, and critically, the fact that many fans and critics alike agree that 3121, Lotusflow3r, MPLSOUND, and 20TEN are his finest works in many years?

Perhaps a more adequate new title would be "The Rise, Fall, and Rise again of Prince"? Perhaps not as catchy, but certainly far more accurate.

Although, if you want my truthful opinion, the "Fall" ought to be removed completely, as like I mentioned before, most of what you wrote in that regard was conjecture, opinion, hearsay, and speculation. I certainly do not agree that Prince went through any sort of "fall", but rather a period of growth and change that was simply different to the way he chose to live his life and operate his career in prior years.

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Reply #25 posted 12/03/10 1:27pm

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No way he'd ever write an autobiography. While he's quite fond of himself, he seems to have an aversion to looking back and analyzing his past. Perhaps that's why so many projects get started and never finished. Even if he did write one, it would be a revisionist history, which he has a perfect right to do, it's his life. It wouldn't even be written in English, rather in "Prince speak."

I believe he's writing his autobiography one album at a time. Wanna know what he was feeling in 1999? Listen to the rave album. What was his life like in 1982? Listen to 1999. That's as honest and as clear an account of his life as you're gonna get from him!

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Reply #26 posted 12/05/10 12:03pm

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lovesexy06 said:

MMMMM....... Maybe one day!!!! When he has time!!!

when he has time lol

Justin Biber has wroted his own autobiography already ! lol

So evil girl, if one of us has a date,
With the undertaker, which one will it be?
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Reply #27 posted 12/05/10 12:10pm

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Best to read the Per Nilson books or the Alex Hahn one. Prince would just lie about himself.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 12/05/10 6:17pm

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chelsearodgerslovesya said:

lovesexy06 said:

MMMMM....... Maybe one day!!!! When he has time!!!

when he has time lol

Justin Biber has wroted his own autobiography already ! lol

That says it all, it didn't take long 2 write either i'll bet, I mean how much info would be in it??? Really what has Bieber done, except have a few hit songs & ride around on Usher's back!!!

Will be interesting 2 see if he is still around in 10 yrs!!!!!

Prince seems 2 be busy right now with his tours & meetings re remastering his earlier work, so i 4 one won't be holding my breath for an auto from Prince anytime soon. Even Prince is limited to "24 hours in a day"!

Prince once tried 2 change his name 2 a symbol so that ur'e mother couldn't find him in the phonebook!
Peace & Be Wild!
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Reply #29 posted 12/05/10 10:27pm

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I was actually going to recommend Alex Hahn's Possessed: the Rise and Fall of Prince and I see that not only has someone beat me to it but that we have the author posting, as well.

I really don't understand the problems that some people have with this book. Sure, it's not perfect and there's a sizable portion of speculation and supposition, I suppose, but for those fans that want a well-rounded, realistic look at everything I don't think you can do better (and I don't think a book from the man himself would be better, no... you know he'd never tell t like it really was). For long time fans who realize Prince is an actual human being, there's nothing shocking or new here at all, either.

At the time the book was written, I thought the title was pretty apt, too.

So, I highly recommend it. I'd love to see an update covering the years since publication, though! biggrin

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