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Reply #30 posted 12/06/10 5:46pm

kimberly1

I agree. Athough I anticipate and expect a new CD with new material at least once a year, seeing him live performing mostly old tunes is a bit redundant.

We all love Prince for putting out new material for us older fans. I wish he would take a risk and perform only or mostly the new material at the concerts. I understand he may be trying to reach a new audience at the concerts but really......it's 2010!

The last time I saw a concert totally dedicated to most of the new material was the Love for one another/Emancipation tour. Musicology had some new but that was still a concert to appeal to the masses.

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Reply #31 posted 12/06/10 6:36pm

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I am also 39 years old and have been following Prince since 1982 or 83....I consider myself to be a huge fan...I listen to his music often,But there Are times when I kind of forget about the following and seem to lose touch with what he is up to..It will last a small season where I really have no clue of what Priince is up to...And then Some strange or surprising thing will happen to reel me back in and pay attention to him again...My main problem is that I feel my appitite for his music is never fulfilled And The waiting for the Next album wears on me quite a bit....Just wish I could be more of an insider when it comes to prince,and be apart of his creations.I hope one day this Dream will come true.

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Reply #32 posted 12/07/10 12:22am

Poplife88

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I'm with ya. I have been tired with his recent output...both live and albums. He doesn't seem all that interested anymore and I have to admit my interest is fading fast. I would like to seem him live again, however am not going to travel far to see him. Unless he comes to Chicago (which is seeming less and less likely anytime soon) than forget it. I still like the old stuff, and at this point in my life that is becoming enough. But that might be the issue right there...I am 40 and simply don't care about the guy as much anymore.

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Reply #33 posted 12/07/10 2:51am

Se7en

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bobbyc17 said:

I am also 39 years old and have been following Prince since 1982 or 83....I consider myself to be a huge fan...I listen to his music often,But there Are times when I kind of forget about the following and seem to lose touch with what he is up to..It will last a small season where I really have no clue of what Priince is up to...And then Some strange or surprising thing will happen to reel me back in and pay attention to him again...My main problem is that I feel my appitite for his music is never fulfilled And The waiting for the Next album wears on me quite a bit....Just wish I could be more of an insider when it comes to prince,and be apart of his creations.I hope one day this Dream will come true.

This is exactly my situation. Same age, same year I started listening to Prince.

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Reply #34 posted 12/07/10 3:55am

madhouseman

I said some of this on another link but...

when was the last time you heard new Prince music coming from the car next to you at a stoplight?

when was the last time you heard new Prince being played in a club?

when was the last time that you played a new Prince track for a friend?

when was the last b-side you heard that blew your mind?

when was the last "MUST GET" Prince CD for you?

it has been a while on all of these for me.

I saw him in L.A. a few years ago when he played the 3 shows in a day concert and I was bored. He walked through it and I have always been a huge fan, since 1999.

The expanded version of my book PRINCE and The Purple Rain Era Studio Sessions 1983-1984 was released in November 2018. (www.amazon.com/gp/product/1538114623/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0) or www.facebook.com/groups/1...104195943/
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Reply #35 posted 12/07/10 5:16am

hhhhdmt

madhouseman said:

I said some of this on another link but...

when was the last time you heard new Prince music coming from the car next to you at a stoplight?

when was the last time you heard new Prince being played in a club?

when was the last time that you played a new Prince track for a friend?

when was the last b-side you heard that blew your mind?

when was the last "MUST GET" Prince CD for you?

it has been a while on all of these for me.

I saw him in L.A. a few years ago when he played the 3 shows in a day concert and I was bored. He walked through it and I have always been a huge fan, since 1999.

when was the last time a 50+ artist is played on the radio or in clubs?

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Reply #36 posted 12/07/10 9:57am

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Se7en said:

bobbyc17 said:

I am also 39 years old and have been following Prince since 1982 or 83....I consider myself to be a huge fan...I listen to his music often,But there Are times when I kind of forget about the following and seem to lose touch with what he is up to..It will last a small season where I really have no clue of what Priince is up to...And then Some strange or surprising thing will happen to reel me back in and pay attention to him again...My main problem is that I feel my appitite for his music is never fulfilled And The waiting for the Next album wears on me quite a bit....Just wish I could be more of an insider when it comes to prince,and be apart of his creations.I hope one day this Dream will come true.

This is exactly my situation. Same age, same year I started listening to Prince.

You all were 7 or 8 years old when you started following Prince...LOL Where were your parents? Did they spray your shoes with his mystical funk foot spray...perhaps? wink

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #37 posted 12/07/10 10:37am

SquirrelMeat

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hhhhdmt said:

madhouseman said:

I said some of this on another link but...

when was the last time you heard new Prince music coming from the car next to you at a stoplight?

when was the last time you heard new Prince being played in a club?

when was the last time that you played a new Prince track for a friend?

when was the last b-side you heard that blew your mind?

when was the last "MUST GET" Prince CD for you?

it has been a while on all of these for me.

I saw him in L.A. a few years ago when he played the 3 shows in a day concert and I was bored. He walked through it and I have always been a huge fan, since 1999.

when was the last time a 50+ artist is played on the radio or in clubs?

Last Saturday. Madonna and Michael Jackson.

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Reply #38 posted 12/07/10 10:52am

hhhhdmt

SquirrelMeat said:

hhhhdmt said:

when was the last time a 50+ artist is played on the radio or in clubs?

Last Saturday. Madonna and Michael Jackson.

Madonna? Well Prince could do the exact same thing she does, work with the hottest producers, colloborate with younger mainstream stars, and get a #1 hit. It doesnt take a genius to do that.

MJ, no disrespect to him but all this love for him only began after his passing.

Anyway Prince has plenty of songs that would get people dancing, even today. If the radio doesnt play those tunes, thats their fault and not Prince's. Madonna and MJ's best work is well behind them. So is Prince's, but unlike those two, prince never needed the biggest producers to be successfull.

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Reply #39 posted 12/07/10 11:01am

SquirrelMeat

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hhhhdmt said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Last Saturday. Madonna and Michael Jackson.

Madonna? Well Prince could do the exact same thing she does, work with the hottest producers, colloborate with younger mainstream stars, and get a #1 hit. It doesnt take a genius to do that.

MJ, no disrespect to him but all this love for him only began after his passing.

Anyway Prince has plenty of songs that would get people dancing, even today. If the radio doesnt play those tunes, thats their fault and not Prince's. Madonna and MJ's best work is well behind them. So is Prince's, but unlike those two, prince never needed the biggest producers to be successfull.

Thing is, even in his heyday, Prince didn't get much play in clubs. His BPM was always too slow.

I'm glad Prince didn't follow the route Madonna took, woking with whoever to remain popular, but P is in a rut at the moment so I think he should give away control for the next album, just to see what would happen.

He could do what A-ha did in 2004. They recorded an album but gave every track to a different producer. Each producer got three tracks to play with. A-ha picked their favourites for the album, and the alternative versions made the b-sides.

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Reply #40 posted 12/07/10 11:13am

hhhhdmt

SquirrelMeat said:

hhhhdmt said:

Madonna? Well Prince could do the exact same thing she does, work with the hottest producers, colloborate with younger mainstream stars, and get a #1 hit. It doesnt take a genius to do that.

MJ, no disrespect to him but all this love for him only began after his passing.

Anyway Prince has plenty of songs that would get people dancing, even today. If the radio doesnt play those tunes, thats their fault and not Prince's. Madonna and MJ's best work is well behind them. So is Prince's, but unlike those two, prince never needed the biggest producers to be successfull.

Thing is, even in his heyday, Prince didn't get much play in clubs. His BPM was always too slow.

I'm glad Prince didn't follow the route Madonna took, woking with whoever to remain popular, but P is in a rut at the moment so I think he should give away control for the next album, just to see what would happen.

He could do what A-ha did in 2004. They recorded an album but gave every track to a different producer. Each producer got three tracks to play with. A-ha picked their favourites for the album, and the alternative versions made the b-sides.

BPM? Lol sorry i dont know what that stands for

Yes Prince could use some other producers help. And i think he should try exploring genres like regaee and blues even more then he has in the past. It'd be fun to see him try something different.

While i still believe he can come up with good songs from time to time, no artist who is in their fifties or even forties is at their peak. Most artists are at their peak in their 20's and 30's.

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Reply #41 posted 12/07/10 2:17pm

Graycap23

SquirrelMeat said:

hhhhdmt said:

Madonna? Well Prince could do the exact same thing she does, work with the hottest producers, colloborate with younger mainstream stars, and get a #1 hit. It doesnt take a genius to do that.

MJ, no disrespect to him but all this love for him only began after his passing.

Anyway Prince has plenty of songs that would get people dancing, even today. If the radio doesnt play those tunes, thats their fault and not Prince's. Madonna and MJ's best work is well behind them. So is Prince's, but unlike those two, prince never needed the biggest producers to be successfull.

Thing is, even in his heyday, Prince didn't get much play in clubs. His BPM was always too slow.

I'm glad Prince didn't follow the route Madonna took, woking with whoever to remain popular, but P is in a rut at the moment so I think he should give away control for the next album, just to see what would happen.

He could do what A-ha did in 2004. They recorded an album but gave every track to a different producer. Each producer got three tracks to play with. A-ha picked their favourites for the album, and the alternative versions made the b-sides.

Prince's real issues has nothing 2 do with production and EVERYTHING 2 do with his current frame of mind. He is handcuffed by his religion.

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Reply #42 posted 12/07/10 2:21pm

SoulAlive

BPM= beats per minute wink

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Reply #43 posted 12/07/10 2:51pm

meejaboy

I must admit that I am kind of tired of it all at the moment - his work shows glimpses of greatness, but it is simply true that he no longer has seems to have the hunger for it that he once did.

But, perhaps deeper than that, he seems to have lost his own interest in music - what he did to amazing effect was take everything he had heard and synthesise it into something new, urgent and compelling.

And he did it with verve and style pretty much year after year from 80-89. Every once in a while after that he would get a bee in his bonnet and produce something outstanding - The Truth, The Undertaker, The Rainbow Children - but its very, very hard to sound fresh all the time. That he did it so well so often is testament enough to his immense talent.

You might criticise MJ or Madonna for using new producers every album, but knowing that you need to do this, and finding the right person to work with, is a talent in itself.

Prince has always thought he can do it all himself and when, in the late 80s, early 90s, new sounds came along that he had not learnt and was not the master of, he seems to have turned away from musical innovation (with a few exceptions) and retreated into his previously charted comfort zones, which he now rarely ventures from.

More importantly, where he would perhaps have picked up musical influences from his bands - Wendy, Lisa, Sheila E, Morris Day - he now no longer seems to collaborate in any meaningful way - i.e. in the sense that he could learn from someone else.

What used to be so fantastic about his music was the sense of different personalities, sounds, and styles all brought together under a unifying theme into a consistent whole - every album was like going to a party with loads of intersesting folks - each in a different part of town.

These days, we always go to the same place, and the party is always thrown by the same person - and, honestly, its a good party, but its one I've been to before.

If you listen to something like Basement Jaxx they seem to have distilled the essence of this concept - each album brings different voices to bear, different tones and tempers, but each a consistent whole.

I would love Prince to just work with some new people - to give up his desire to sign off every element - to want to learn from others - to bring new people to the party.

He is such an immensely talented man, and his place in American and world culture and history is as secure as that of any artist - so he really has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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Reply #44 posted 12/07/10 3:54pm

enjoyniki

Yes, I am not into the music as much. Just grateful Prince's genre of music is vast and he has been so prolific, because no other artist impresses me. I have tix for MSG, but I am only going because my friend has never seen him live. This concert should be interesting.

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Reply #45 posted 12/07/10 4:05pm

rainbowchild

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I'll never get tired of being a Prince fan. I do wish, however, that Prince makes it less complicated for us to access his new music and release more live material, preferably on Blu-Ray. Would love to see Prince in high def!
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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