You don't have to believe me and you don't have to be part of any inner circle. This stuff was widely available and the proof (such as links to the birth/death certificates) was posted here at the time all of this went down back around the time of the album release. There was even a legal enquiry into the death at the time. It may be news to NEW fans but it's old news in reality... nothing shocking and nothing surprising.
Furthermore, you can be offended all you want. WHY Prince went through with it, anyone is welcome to speculate, but the facts and the dates that all of it went down are readily available... and that's all I've been referring to here. That he lied is not speculation.
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The syntax is a little tortured, but that makes perfect sense, to me. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Thank you and amen. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Prince never legally changed his name. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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I know, I covered that. I was talking about his stage name. | |
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okay I got ya. "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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How strange that one's interest would be so high as to cross-reference birth/death certificates with when a music video was made to be able to speak with such authority on the issue. In addition to being offended by your speculative statement, I am also questioning why it would be so important to you. As to "NEW fans," I am hardly that, having been around when all that you discuss was happening and YEARS before! That is not the issue. I just question what you are saying and whether he was lying or not depends on your personal interpretation. Never trust anything spoken in the presence of an erection.
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You're completely assuming that a) I did the cross referencing myself, or b) that it's important to me. You'll also note that I really did no speculation in my posts at all, only stating that the publicity for the album at that point was a sham. It's everyone else delving into what was going through Prince's head at the time, I didn't do that as I don't know him. Given the title of this thread, the Oprah interview happens to be full of 'WTF' commentary and behavior.
In any case, the news concerning the baby was all over the online Prince community at the time (on thinking back, prince.org probably didn't exist so it would have been alt.music.prince or one of the other online communities like PML/PPML, etc). There was no "original research" done by me at all but fans from all over were posting the news as it hit from late October '96 through early '97 when those two assistants of Mayte's came forward and the reports of the official investigative enquiry hit fandom (and the press, of course,...ast detail).
Do you doubt that fans didn't discuss this to death when we frequently see people invading all aspects of his personal life here on a day to day basis? | |
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OK, I know I'm an atypical org poster 'cause I give! I do remember all the hubbub surrounding this news. In fact, I embarrassedly admit that I tried to research Pfeiffers syndrome at the time. I also remember the Mojica twins getting fired (Of course, after the baby died, they would serve no purpose anyway). There WAS, as you said, plenty of discussion, enough for a book! Oh, and the Oprah interview....he DID give plenty of non-answers, but I don't want to get started on how I feel about her probing the most sensitive areas of EVERYONE's life in her interviews and how I don't know why people even allow her to do that! Yeah, I know, that's how she makes her living (and it's quite a living! ), but....I'm starting to ramble. It's late........ Never trust anything spoken in the presence of an erection.
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Chemtrails interview on youtube.
Watch it. He really is fucking BARKING mad, a total basket case. | |
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When did he lie about his age and ethnicity?? | |
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in an 1981 interview with Steve Sutherland prince lied about both his age and the race of his mother. He also lied about his age on the American Bandstand appearance. He said he was 19 when he was 21.
The June 6th 1981 of NME (find on the prince in print website). has an interview. It says his dad is mixed race and he takes credit for writing 'partyup' and says that Regan is a better president that carter. oh he also says that he wrote the Dirty Mind album 'entirely out of experience.' . And that he doesn't see himself as black but Human (a theme we will see again)
[Edited 11/28/10 9:23am] "Keep on shilling for Big Pharm!" | |
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Wow never knew that | |
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On the Tavis Smiley show. Prince spoke about CHEMTRAIL,which was very insiteful. Every time I look N2 the sky I C jet plains spraying chemical trails on us.(It pisses me off!) Sounds like POPULATION CONTROL!!! | |
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I've seen the American Bandstand interview where he lied...which is no big deal, people lied about that all the time. It was advised in alot of cases. Where/When did he lie about his ethnicity? Can we say for sure that he lied since non of us know exactly what his parents ethnicity is? Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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I second that! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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oh that whole italian and native american thing?i read sources saying dad was part italian and other saying mom and both and others saying part native american... i've seen tons of pics of him looking paler then me and i look like a vampire..and i'm part italian mom's side. no way he's 100% black. then he'd look like that runway model or that actor Djimon Hounsou.
so the mom in purple rain was a greek actress.... i've only seen one pic of prince's mom...
whatever. who cares. he's a prettyman whatever is background ethnicity mix is... [Edited 11/30/10 18:43pm] i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. no one tops prince in concert! | |
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ME TOO!!!
U R NOT BETTER THAN ANYONE NOR R U PERFECT!! | |
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I doubt the next time he goes on Tavis Smiley, he'll be asked about why he lied about his mother's racial identity. 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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My thoughts exactly, the man is gorgeous, I don't care what his background is! But its quite obvious (Emancipation/Come era especially) that both he and his mom, and I'd even say his father, have something directly in the lineage, cool that Prince acknowledges that. He should be proud of who he is..whatever the mix, its a perfect mix! Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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What year did he say that? "Don't make me chase u, even doves have pride.." | |
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...says the person who, in another thread, voiced the opinion that Prince had sacrificed someone to gain membership into the Illuminati earlier in his life. | |
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He very clearly states in this interview, which is available on picture disc all over the internet, that his father is "black" and his mother is "italian". Not "black and italian" or "italian with black" or any of that. He delineates the two as being separate and not equal (equal as in the same, not any other interpretation). | |
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In a Playboy random page portion from 1980(?) he stated that "there should be a 2 p.m. mandantory sex break."
Playboys replied as a funny quip that "that may create some outrage frpom some schools."etc. | |
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awww my little pint sized guido!! ginny pride! i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. no one tops prince in concert! | |
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I NEVER said he sacrificed anyone to gain membership into the Illuminati....check your facts before you try to insult someone. That was another orger's quote thank you very much!!
Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Thanks for clearing that up...I hadn't seen this interview...which is why I asked. I will go and look for it. Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Oh, please, back track if you must. Someone incredulously questioned if you were serious "he did, at one point, join an organisation that required him to sell his soul and sacrifice a loved one
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As I said, and will say again, I NEVER said Prince sacrificed anyone...I never said joining the Illuminati required a sacrifice...I said he would have joined an organization like the Illuminati when he was young because he was hungry for success. And since I said he was 17-18..that clearly has NOTHING to do with his baby with Mayte..so it was a waste of time for you to bring it up. I stand by what I say...and I don't have a need to back track. Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol | |
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Your crazy posts are there in that thread for all to see. | |
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