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Thread started 10/08/10 10:04am

BartVanHemelen

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"Dirty Mind" (the album) is 30 years old today. Discuss.

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened. I don't think I agree with that, for the simple reason that I don't see what DM revolutionised. Sure, it is basically the starting point of Prince (be fair: the first two albums weren't that remarkable and if that's all that Prince had released ever he wouldn't be a footnote), but I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

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(*) I'd link to that tweet, but it contains an "illegal" video on DailyMotion and apparently a website that calls itself "independent and unofficial" continues to succumb to Prince's idiotic and ridiculous and pointless demands.

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Reply #1 posted 10/08/10 10:07am

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SEXIEST ALBUM EVER MADE <3 F*** YEAH! lol

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Reply #2 posted 10/08/10 11:42am

cb70

BartVanHemelen said:

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened. I don't think I agree with that, for the simple reason that I don't see what DM revolutionised. Sure, it is basically the starting point of Prince (be fair: the first two albums weren't that remarkable and if that's all that Prince had released ever he wouldn't be a footnote), but I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

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(*) I'd link to that tweet, but it contains an "illegal" video on DailyMotion and apparently a website that calls itself "independent and unofficial" continues to succumb to Prince's idiotic and ridiculous and pointless demands.

You're a turd biscuit Bart. Things never change.

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Reply #3 posted 10/08/10 11:45am

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BartVanHemelen said:

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened.

I was not a fan of P's work when it first came out and I remember listening to Controversy all the way thru and I wasn't impressed with it. Again, I say, I was not a fan of P's work. When we look back at the music from say 20yrs ago, all P was doing was putting Minneapolis, MN on the map and saying, 'see, we can make funk and rock too' ...

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The MPLSoUND was in it's infant stage ...

Peace ... & Stay Funky ...

~* The only love there is, is the love "we" make *~

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Reply #4 posted 10/08/10 11:50am

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A flawless album, and one of my favorites. Definitely changed the game.

What I like about it is that it's so cohesive. It's an incredibly enjoyable, effortless listen.

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Reply #5 posted 10/08/10 3:33pm

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Happy Birthday, Dirty Mind, you still sound as raw and fresh as you were on Day 1 of your release

So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/10 3:44pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened. I don't think I agree with that, for the simple reason that I don't see what DM revolutionised. Sure, it is basically the starting point of Prince (be fair: the first two albums weren't that remarkable and if that's all that Prince had released ever he wouldn't be a footnote), but I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

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(*) I'd link to that tweet, but it contains an "illegal" video on DailyMotion and apparently a website that calls itself "independent and unofficial" continues to succumb to Prince's idiotic and ridiculous and pointless demands.

I agree, ?uestlove should have talked to someone before saything that

1999, Purple Rain and the sounds of ATWIAD & Parade actually revolutionized music of the 80's and even early 90's

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Reply #7 posted 10/08/10 3:51pm

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OldFriends4Sale said:

BartVanHemelen said:

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened. I don't think I agree with that, for the simple reason that I don't see what DM revolutionised. Sure, it is basically the starting point of Prince (be fair: the first two albums weren't that remarkable and if that's all that Prince had released ever he wouldn't be a footnote), but I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

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(*) I'd link to that tweet, but it contains an "illegal" video on DailyMotion and apparently a website that calls itself "independent and unofficial" continues to succumb to Prince's idiotic and ridiculous and pointless demands.

I agree, ?uestlove should have talked to someone before saything that

1999, Purple Rain and the sounds of ATWIAD & Parade actually revolutionized music of the 80's and even early 90's

I'd say Rick James' 'Street Songs' in 1981 was more influential.

But DM? just awesome.

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Reply #8 posted 10/08/10 3:59pm

wishuhvn

Dirty Mind was the album that solidified Prince and me and we've never looked back...Had a few moments that I think he was a little lost lyrically but 30 years down the road I'm still known to so many people as "The Prince Guy." Those lyrics to Uptown hit home for a vertically challenged shy 13 year old kid living in the foster care program.

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Reply #9 posted 10/09/10 7:44am

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BartVanHemelen said:

A couple of hours ago ?uestlove informed his followers on Twitter that Dirty Mind (the album) was released 30 years ago today. (*)

He also said that it was the last revolution in soul until rap happened. I don't think I agree with that, for the simple reason that I don't see what DM revolutionised. Sure, it is basically the starting point of Prince (be fair: the first two albums weren't that remarkable and if that's all that Prince had released ever he wouldn't be a footnote), but I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

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(*) I'd link to that tweet, but it contains an "illegal" video on DailyMotion and apparently a website that calls itself "independent and unofficial" continues to succumb to Prince's idiotic and ridiculous and pointless demands.

Why do you bother-surely you have better things to do?

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Reply #10 posted 10/09/10 7:50am

JoeTyler

Still fresh, still controversial, still influential cool

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Reply #11 posted 10/09/10 7:52am

Spinlight

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Really difficult to get into this album. "When You Were Mine" is a classic and all-time favorite, but I'm just not terribly fond of the rest.

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Reply #12 posted 10/09/10 7:56am

JoeTyler

BartVanHemelen said:

I don't see how this album spawned any revolution. Compare that to Sly Stone's influence: look at The Temptations' Cloud Nine, for instance.

really? Dirty Mind was the album that truly mixed synths with the old-school funk of the 70s, creating the modern R&B/Dance sound in the process...Rihanna is basically following the blueprint of DM, even if she doesn't know this, her producers surely do...

Dirty Mind was the first mainstream album that introduced sexually oriented-lyrics in a raw/exciting/literal manner that had never been done before at that point...if I'm not mistaken...

why do you have to compare DM to a Sly album is beyond me :confused: ...DM's legacy might be "frivolous" (sex, electronic R&B), but IT HAS a clear legacy after all...

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Reply #13 posted 10/09/10 11:34am

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Reply #14 posted 10/09/10 11:40am

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I wanna do it alllllll niiightttttttttttttttttttttttt

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #15 posted 10/09/10 6:59pm

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In my daddy's car, it's u I really wanna drive...
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #16 posted 10/09/10 10:06pm

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It seems like it was yesterday....where has the time gone?????eek

"A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1
People can slam their door, disagree and fight it
But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son?
United States of Division"
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Reply #17 posted 10/09/10 10:35pm

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classic christgau review, with the best last line ever:

Dirty Mind [Warner Bros., 1980]
After going gold in 1979 as an utterly uncrossedover falsetto love man, he takes care of the songwriting, transmutes the persona, revs up the guitar, muscles into the vocals, leans down hard on a rock-steady, funk-tinged four-four, and conceptualizes--about sex, mostly. Thus he becomes the first commercially viable artist in a decade to claim the visionary high ground of Lennon and Dylan and Hendrix (and Jim Morrison), whose rebel turf has been ceded to such marginal heroes-by-fiat as Patti Smith and John Rotten-Lydon. Brashly lubricious where the typical love man plays the lead in "He's So Shy," he specializes here in full-fledged fuckbook fantasies--the kid sleeps with his sister and digs it, sleeps with his girlfriend's boyfriend and doesn't, stops a wedding by gamahuching the bride on her way to church. Mick Jagger should fold up his penis and go home. A

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Reply #18 posted 10/09/10 11:45pm

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JoeTyler said:

Dirty Mind was the first mainstream album that introduced sexually oriented-lyrics in a raw/exciting/literal manner that had never been done before at that point...if I'm not mistaken...

I'm wondering what you define as "mainstream" in this context? Certainly not sales... IIRC, Dirty Mind didn't even go Gold until after Purple Rain was released.

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I think the album is rather uneven. There are some great tracks and some that are really flat. It was inventive at the time of its release, and really was a solid foundation for everything Prince would do in the 80's. Today, it sounds kind of quaint... much like The Black Album sounded tame in 1994 when it, too, might have been influential if released when intended.

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Reply #19 posted 10/10/10 12:36am

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Spinlight said:

Really difficult to get into this album. "When You Were Mine" is a classic and all-time favorite, but I'm just not terribly fond of the rest.

There exists no emoticon to display how much I am shocked, outraged and saddened.

If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #20 posted 10/10/10 4:07am

JoeTyler

I don't want to sound like a smartass or a know-it-all, really, but I just can't get how a fan could dislike Dirty Mind ... confuse neutral

there is no controversy here: no Tony M, no filler, 4 CLASSICS (DM, WYWM, Uptown, Head), a classic electro/R&B/funk sound, a classic cover, the Dr.Fink's synths, the classic Pre-PR band (Lisa, André, Dez, etc)...really, what's to dislike here??? ...

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Reply #21 posted 10/10/10 4:27am

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JoeTyler said:

I don't want to sound like a smartass or a know-it-all, really, but I just can't get how a fan could dislike Dirty Mind ... confuse neutral

there is no controversy here: no Tony M, no filler, 4 CLASSICS (DM, WYWM, Uptown, Head), a classic electro/R&B/funk sound, a classic cover, the Dr.Fink's synths, the classic Pre-PR band (Lisa, André, Dez, etc)...really, what's to dislike here??? ...

Dirty Mind is a great album, but what's with the "classic R&B" that paved the way for today's R&B? confused

I mean sure 'Gotta broken heart again' could be called R&B but the rest ...?

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Reply #22 posted 10/10/10 4:38am

JoeTyler

Tremolina said:

JoeTyler said:

I don't want to sound like a smartass or a know-it-all, really, but I just can't get how a fan could dislike Dirty Mind ... confuse neutral

there is no controversy here: no Tony M, no filler, 4 CLASSICS (DM, WYWM, Uptown, Head), a classic electro/R&B/funk sound, a classic cover, the Dr.Fink's synths, the classic Pre-PR band (Lisa, André, Dez, etc)...really, what's to dislike here??? ...

Dirty Mind is a great album, but what's with the "classic R&B" that paved the way for today's R&B? confused

I mean sure 'Gotta broken heart again' could be called R&B but the rest ...?

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by "classic" I mean that the album and its sound are classics now , 30 years later lol

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Reply #23 posted 10/10/10 4:53am

Tremolina

JoeTyler said:

Tremolina said:

Dirty Mind is a great album, but what's with the "classic R&B" that paved the way for today's R&B? confused

I mean sure 'Gotta broken heart again' could be called R&B but the rest ...?

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by "classic" I mean that the album and its sound are classics now , 30 years later lol

Yeah I agree lol but classic R&B?

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Reply #24 posted 10/10/10 5:21am

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balloons party horns

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #25 posted 10/10/10 5:23am

JoeTyler

Tremolina said:

JoeTyler said:

by "classic" I mean that the album and its sound are classics now , 30 years later lol

Yeah I agree lol but classic R&B?

Alicia Keys listens to GBHA every night before she goes to sleep...

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Reply #26 posted 10/10/10 5:48am

Tremolina

JoeTyler said:

Tremolina said:

Yeah I agree lol but classic R&B?

Alicia Keys listens to GBHA every night before she goes to sleep...

lol

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Reply #27 posted 10/10/10 6:17am

jdcxc

I agree with Questlove 100% (real musicians know the deal):

* The album basically ended disco.

* Truly groundbreaking, underground and fascinating hit in the R&B audience that totally changed the sound of all funk and roll to follow. The Minneapolis sound had begun and would become the most copied production blueprint for the next ten years.

* It heralded the era of the producer. No more ten-man bands (Ohio Players, Commodores, etc)

* It showed a way for a new experimental, creative voice rarely seen in black music. Prince became our rebel and revolutionary (think Bowie or punk music). The sound was freedom. He played with gender and sex in a way never before seen in a mainstream African-American musical setting (he does owe a lot to L. Richard). Many artists would copy his overt sexuality without the humor.

Great album that still sounds revolutionary today!

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Reply #28 posted 10/10/10 10:08am

Dave1992

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Really difficult to get into this album. "When You Were Mine" is a classic and all-time favorite, but I'm just not terribly fond of the rest.

I think I might just log off and never ever come back again.

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Reply #29 posted 10/10/10 10:16am

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Spinlight said:

Really difficult to get into this album. "When You Were Mine" is a classic and all-time favorite, but I'm just not terribly fond of the rest.

It's time to turn in your FAM papers. giggle I also think you may have lost a lot of street Cred with that statement.

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